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Bob Estey

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You will hear a lot of diverse "testimonies" re the Holy Spirit brother. Remember, there are over 45,000 denominations globally, and something is wrong.






Shalom
J.

You will hear a lot of diverse "testimonies" re the Holy Spirit brother. Remember, there are over 45,000 denominations globally, and something is wrong.



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Shalom
J.
Yes, but instead of listening to the 45,000 denominations, it seems to me we should read the Bible and listen to what the Lord is saying to us. As we mature, we better understand what the Lord is saying, I believe.
 
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Yes, but instead of listening to the 45,000 denominations, it seems to me we should read the Bible and listen to what the Lord is saying to us. As we mature, we better understand what the Lord is saying, I believe.
Nothing wrong in what you are saying @Bob Estey

I am not forcing you or superimposing upon you to study as I do.
J.
 
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Nothing wrong in what you are saying @Bob Estey

I am not forcing you or superimposing upon you to study as I do.
J.
Studying is good. Don't forget, though, to do as the Lord told you to do. I fear there are biblical scholars and theologians who know the Bible inside and out, but don't do as the Lord instructed.
 

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Studying is good. Don't forget, though, to do as the Lord told you to do. I fear there are biblical scholars and theologians who know the Bible inside and out, but don't do as the Lord instructed.
I fully concur, I am no scholar, but the DOING part is Imperative, not the TALKING part, as you have said.
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Pearl, based on my own experience and discussions with other Christians, I'm not sure the Helper always makes His presence that obvious. There have been some experiences which I can look back on and say, "Ooooohhhhhh, is that what (or Who) that was?" But no tongues of fire descending from Heaven. So, I praise God for giving others the gift of overt experience of the Spirit's presence (and confess to the sin of Envy), but I have to submit for consideration that we don't always know. And so encourage brothers and sisters who have not (yet?) had such experiences.
Well said @Lambano

We go by faith and not by fluctuating "feelings"
J.
 
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Studying is good. Don't forget, though, to do as the Lord told you to do. I fear there are biblical scholars and theologians who know the Bible inside and out, but don't do as the Lord instructed.
Agree - knowing about Him isn't the same as knowing Him in a personal way.
 

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Well said @Lambano

We go by faith and not by fluctuating "feelings"
J.
Thank you, Johann, but I would never denigrate a brother's or sister's experience of the Holy Spirit as mere "feelings". In fact, if the Pentecost experience of the Holy Spirit and the Corinthians' experience of the Gifts were to be considered normative for Christians (though I do not believe that they are), then it's me who is out-of-compliance.
 
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Thank you, Johann, but I would never denigrate a brother's or sister's experience of the Holy Spirit as mere "feelings". In fact, if the Pentecost experience of the Holy Spirit and the Corinthians' experience of the Gifts were to be considered normative for Christians (though I do not believe that they are), then it's me who is out-of-compliance.
Brother, speaking from experience, I have been deeply hurt as a young man by Pentecostalism, the AGS and Pinkster Protestante "Church"

I don't go by peoples testimonies and experiences but who they are, in real life.
But don't fret, that's just me.
J.
 

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Thank you, Johann, but I would never denigrate a brother's or sister's experience of the Holy Spirit as mere "feelings". In fact, if the Pentecost experience of the Holy Spirit and the Corinthians' experience of the Gifts were to be considered normative for Christians (though I do not believe that they are), then it's me who is out-of-compliance.
The "new creature" is from above, whereof our natural reason has no acquaintance: it is a supernatural product and can only be known by supernatural revelation. In like manner, the spiritual life received at the new birth thrives as to its degrees, unperceived by our senses.

A child, by weighing and measuring himself, may discover that he has grown, yet he was not conscious of the process while growing. So it is with the new man: it is "renewed day by day" (2 Cor. 4:16) yet in such a hidden way that the renewing itself is not felt, though its effects become apparent.


Thus there is no good reason to be disheartened because we do not feel that any progress is being made or to conclude there is no advance because such feeling is absent. "There are some of the Lord’s people in whom the essence and reality of holiness dwell who do not perceive in themselves any spiritual growth.

It should therefore be remembered that there is a real growth in grace where it is not perceived.

We should judge of it not by what we experience of it in ourselves, but by the Word. It is a subject for faith to be exercised on" (S. F. Pierce). If we desire the pure "milk of the Word" and feed thereon, then we must not doubt that we duly "grow thereby" (1 Peter 2:3).

To quote again from Pierce: "Spiritual growth is a mystery and is more evident in some than in others. The more the Holy Spirit shines upon the mind and puts forth His lifegiving influences in the heart, so much the more sin is seen, felt and loathed as the greatest of all evils.

And this is an evidence of spiritual growth, namely, to hate sin as sin and to abhor it on account of its contrariety to the nature of God. The quick perception and insight which we have of inherent sin, and our feeling of it, so as to look on ourselves as most vile, to renounce ourselves and all that we can do for ourselves, and to look wholly and immediately to Christ for relief and strength are growth in grace, and a most certain evidence of it."

How little is the natural man capable of understanding that! Having no experience of the same it sounds to him like a doleful delusion. And how the believer needs to beg God to teach him the truth about this! As we know nothing whatever about the new birth save what God has revealed in His Word, so we can form no correct comprehension about spiritual growth except from the same source.
Pink.
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Look up these verses in the scriptures, feelings are not to be trusted, and our testimonies is not preaching the scriptures and of Christ

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John 14:16-26
Acts 2:1-47
Romans 8:1-39
General Work
Zechariah 4:6
Matthew 12:28
John 15:26
John 16:8
Romans 8:11
Romans 8:26
2 Corinthians 3:6
1 Peter 3:18
2 Peter 1:21
Revelation 22:17
Dwelling in Believers
Ezekiel 36:27
John 14:17
Romans 8:9
1 Corinthians 3:16
1 Corinthians 6:19
2 Timothy 1:14
1 John 2:27
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SEE Spiritual; Fulness
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Outpouring of, Promised
Isaiah 32:15
Isaiah 59:21
Ezekiel 39:29
Upon Young and Old
Joel 2:28
Zechariah 12:10
Christ the Giver of
Matthew 3:11
Bestowed in Answer to Prayer
Luke 11:13
Through Waiting upon God
Luke 24:49
John 7:39
John 14:16
John 16:7
Empowers for Service
Acts 1:8
Personal Cleansing Precedes
Acts 2:38
SEE Spiritual; Fulness
Examples of Men Receiving the Gift of, under the Old Dispensation
The Seventy Elders
Numbers 11:25
Balaam
Numbers 24:2
Othniel
Judges 3:10
Gideon
Judges 6:34
Samson
Judges 14:6
Judges 14:19
Saul
1 Samuel 10:10
1 Samuel 11:6
David
1 Samuel 16:13
Saul's Messengers
1 Samuel 19:20
2 Chronicles 15:1
Luke 2:25
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Believers in the Early Church Baptized with
Simeon
Luke 2:25
Believers at Pentecost
Acts 2:3
The Samaritan Christians
Acts 8:17
Cornelius and his Company
Acts 10:44
The Ephesian Believers
Acts 19:6
Acts 19:7
1 Corinthians 12:13
1 John 2:20
SEE Spiritual; Power
Bearing Witness to the Spiritual Adoption of Believers
Romans 8:16
Galatians 4:6
1 John 3:24
1 John 4:13
1 John 5:6
SEE Spiritual; Adoption
SEE Assurance
As Teacher
Nehemiah 9:20
Luke 12:12
John 14:26
1 Corinthians 2:13
1 John 2:27
SEE Guidance, Divine
The Sin Against
Isaiah 63:10
Matthew 12:31
Mark 3:29
Acts 5:3
Acts 7:51
Ephesians 4:30
1 Thessalonians 5:19
Hebrews 10:29
1 John 5:16
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SEE Stubbornness
Withdrawal of
Genesis 6:3
1 Samuel 16:14
Psalm 51:11
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Christ Baptized with
Isaiah 11:2
Isaiah 42:1
Isaiah 61:1
Matthew 3:16
John 1:32
Acts 10:38
The Leadership of
Guides into All Truth
John 16:13
Acts 8:39
Controls the Movements of Believers
Acts 10:19
Acts 10:20
Directs in the Selection of Christian Leaders
Acts 13:2
Chooses the Fields of Operation
Acts 16:6
Obedience to, a Mark of Sonship
Romans 8:14
Galatians 5:18
SEE Guidance, Divine
Giveth Life
John 6:63
Romans 8:11
2 Corinthians 3:6
1 Peter 3:18
Called "Spirit of Truth"
John 14:17
John 15:26
John 16:13
1 John 4:6
Called the Comforter, (Greek, Parakletos)
Abides forever
John 14:16
Brings to remembrance Christ's words
John 14:26
Testifies concerning Christ
John 15:26
Convicts the world of sin
John 16:7
John 16:8
Guides into all truth
John 16:13
Indwelling
(Dwelling in Believers)
Ezekiel 36:27
John 14:17
Romans 8:9
1 Corinthians 3:16
1 Corinthians 6:19
2 Timothy 1:14
1 John 2:27
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SEE Spiritual; Fulness
SEE Indwelling Christ
Promised
Outpouring of, Promised
Isaiah 32:15
Isaiah 59:21
Ezekiel 39:29
Upon Young and Old
Joel 2:28
Zechariah 12:10
Christ the Giver of
Matthew 3:11
Bestowed in Answer to Prayer
Luke 11:13
Through Waiting upon God
Luke 24:49
John 7:39
John 14:16
John 16:7
Empowers for Service
Acts 1:8
Personal Cleansing Precedes
Acts 2:38
SEE Spiritual; Fulness
Old Testament Reference to
(Examples of Men Receiving the Gift of, under the Old Dispensation.)
The Seventy Elders
Numbers 11:25
Balaam
Numbers 24:2
Othniel
Judges 3:10
Gideon
Judges 6:34
Samson
Judges 14:6
Judges 14:19
Saul
1 Samuel 10:10
1 Samuel 11:6
David
1 Samuel 16:13
Saul's Messengers
1 Samuel 19:20
2 Chronicles 15:1
Luke 2:25
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Baptism of
(Believers in the Early Church Baptized with)
Simeon
Luke 2:25
Believers at Pentecost
Acts 2:3
The Samaritan Christians
Acts 8:17
Cornelius and his Company
Acts 10:44
The Ephesian Believers
Acts 19:6
Acts 19:7
1 Corinthians 12:13
1 John 2:20
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Men Filled with
Luke 1:15
Luke 4:1
Acts 2:4
Acts 4:8
Acts 4:31
Acts 7:55
Acts 11:24
Acts 13:9
Acts 13:52
Witness of
(Bears Witness to the Spiritual Adoption of Believers)
Romans 8:16
Galatians 4:6
1 John 3:24
1 John 4:13
1 John 5:6
SEE Spiritual; Adoption
SEE Assurance
Withdrawal of
Genesis 6:3
1 Samuel 16:14
Psalm 51:11
SEE Face
SEE Reprobation
SEE Wicked, The
Christ Baptised with
Isaiah 11:2
Isaiah 42:1
Isaiah 61:1
Matthew 3:16
John 1:32
Acts 10:38
Guides
Guides into All Truth
John 16:13
Acts 8:39
Controls the Movements of Believers
Acts 10:19
Acts 10:20
Directs in the Selection of Christian Leaders
Acts 13:2
Chooses the Fields of Operation
Acts 16:6
Obedience to, a Mark of Sonship
Romans 8:14
Galatians 5:18
SEE Guidance, Divine
Quickens
(Giveth Life)
John 6:63
Romans 8:11
2 Corinthians 3:6
1 Peter 3:18
Spirit of Truth
John 14:17
John 15:26
John 16:13
1 John 4:6
The Comforter
(Greek, Parakletos)
Abides forever
John 14:16
Brings to remembrance Christ's words
John 14:26
Testifies concerning Christ
John 15:26
Convicts the world of sin
John 16:7
John 16:8
Guides into all truth
John 16:13
Filling Saints
Luke 1:15
Luke 4:1
Acts 2:4
Acts 4:8
Acts 4:31
Acts 7:55
Acts 11:24
Acts 13:9
Acts 13:52
Fruits of
(General References to)
Produced in All Periods of Life
Psalm 92:13
Psalm 92:14
Perennial
Ezekiel 47:12
Grown only upon Good Ground
Matthew 13:8
Many Varieties of
Galatians 5:22
Galatians 5:23
Without Defect
Ephesians 5:9
Philippians 1:11
The Product of Heavenly Wisdom
James 3:17
SEE Fruit, Spiritual
SEE Tree of Life
Grieved
(Withdrawal of)
Genesis 6:3
1 Samuel 16:14
Psalm 51:11
SEE Face
SEE Reprobation
SEE Wicked, The
Inspiring Prophets
(Inspiration of Prophets and Teachers)
2 Kings 3:11
2 Kings 3:12
2 Kings 17:13
Nehemiah 9:30
Job 32:8
Hebrews 1:1
1 Peter 1:11
2 Peter 1:20
2 Peter 1:21
2 Peter 3:2
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SEE Revelations, Devine
Inspiring The Word
Jeremiah 36:2
Ezekiel 1:3
Acts 1:16
Acts 28:25
2 Timothy 3:16
2 Peter 1:21
Revelation 1:1
Revelation 14:3
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Power of
(general references to)
Gives Men Courage to Rebuke Sin
Micah 3:8
Mightier than Physical Forces
Zechariah 4:6
Jesus the Supreme Example of
Luke 4:14
Accompanies the Baptism of the Holy Spirit
Acts 1:8
Acts 2:2
Enables Men to Speak with Authority
Acts 4:33
Acts 6:8
Fills Life with Healing Influences
Acts 19:11
Acts 19:12
1 Corinthians 2:4
Ephesians 3:16
1 Thessalonians 1:5
2 Timothy 1:7
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Regenerating
(the teaching concerning)
Birth of a New Spirit
Ezekiel 36:26
Of Divine Origin
John 1:13
Essential to Spiritual Vision
John 3:3
2 Corinthians 3:3
A New Creation
2 Corinthians 5:17
Necessary to Salvation
Titus 3:5
James 1:18
1 Peter 1:3
By the Word of God
1 Peter 1:23
1 John 2:29
1 John 3:9
1 John 4:7
Obtained by Faith
1 John 5:1
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SEE Spiritual
SEE Spiritual
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Sanctifying
(How Secured)
John 17:17
Romans 15:16
1 Corinthians 1:30
Ephesians 5:26
2 Timothy 2:21
Hebrews 10:10
Hebrews 13:12
1 Peter 1:2
SEE Blood
Spirit of Truth
John 14:17
John 15:26
John 16:13
1 John 4:6
Titles of
Comforter
SEE Comforter, The
John 14:16
Eternal Spirit
Hebrews 9:14
Free Spirit
Psalm 51:12
Holy Spirit
Psalm 51:11
Ephesians 1:13
Ephesians 4:30
Power of the Highest
Luke 1:35
Spirit of Adoption
Romans 8:15
Spirit of Christ
1 Peter 1:11
Spirit of Counsel
Isaiah 11:2
Spirit of Glory
1 Peter 4:14
Spirit of God
Genesis 1:2
Spirit of Grace
Zechariah 12:10
Spirit of Holiness
Romans 1:4
Spirit of Judgment
Isaiah 4:4
Spirit of Knowledge
Isaiah 11:2
Spirit of Life
Romans 8:2
Spirit of Lord God
Isaiah 61:1
Spirit of Might
Isaiah 11:2
Spirit of Prophecy
Revelation 19:10
Spirit of the Father
Matthew 10:20
Spirit of the Lord
Isaiah 11:2
Spirit of the Son
Galatians 4:6
Spirit of Understanding
Isaiah 11:2
Spirit of Wisdom
Isaiah 11:2
Upon Christ
Isaiah 11:2
Isaiah 42:1
Isaiah 61:1
Matthew 3:16
John 1:32
Acts 10:38
Witness of
(Bearing Witness to the Spiritual Adoption of Believers)
Romans 8:16
Galatians 4:6
1 John 3:24
1 John 4:13
1 John 5:6
SEE Spiritual; Adoption
SEE Assurance
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Witness of the Holy Spirit
Titles and Names of the Holy Spirit
Sealing of the Holy Spirit
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