Proverbs 16:4
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
Doctrine of Predestination
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It's undeniable. This world is Hell on wheels. God allowed it. He could have stopped every bit of it!
Isaiah 10:5-12
5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. 6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets. 7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria,
Look out America! The headhunters are here. God is going to clean His house THOROUGHLY.
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By the means of their Creator's grace. The same as is available to everyone now. Though only a few receive it pre-judgement, the rest will experience it post judgement. In what age that will be I can't say. All I know is that it will happen.
Actually it was a direct revelation from God. A fantastic life changing display of our Creators mercy and grace.
I can understand where you are coming from. I would've responded the same way you did. But the Spirit of God opened my eyes to Satan and his future and since then I had a choice to make. Keep this truth at a distance by rejecting it, or accept it and let God's word change me. Thankfully I chose the latter.
Not everything that comes into your mind is of the Spirit of truth and is worth rejecting, there is a thing called imaginations
2 Cr 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God,
and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
Christ tells us that "everlasting fire" was specifically prepared for the devil and his angels (in Matt 25:41)
Which is the truth, and not worth rejecting
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
The reason we believe is because God predestinated us to be conformed to the image of his Son. Rom 8:28-30 To ensure that his people would be conformed to the image of Christ, God predestinated each one to that conformity to his Son.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.v13
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.v13
Agreed. That's why we who have walked, talked and listened to our Redeemer and Shepherd have been able to learn to recognise His voice.
So after 40 years I have come to know Him Who I follow and hear His voice. The proof or evidence that I have been following the Good Shepherd is that I have become more and more like Him. So those who knows me would say. The One I follow said, A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Adam himself walked, talked and listened to God too and hearkened to the wrong voice, its kind of "a thing."
The above is more about yourself and your own estimation of yourself (as if trying to convince me you have fruit) you needn't do that, it does not really address the contradicting Jesus Christ.
And he had already said, that the word he had spoken, would be the same that shall judge person in the last day
This is truth. It waters our soul hey. Gives the elect hope of a great future. For who can resist God's will in choosing only some for Jesus's kingdom. Actually who can prevent God from carrying out His will in this present age. To work in those He has chosen out to conform to the image of His Son. He is awesome!
All good my friend. The truth is that my testimony is to highlight the One Who works in His elect, to both will and do of His good pleasure. This is out of my control but rests completely on His will. Praise God that He has chosen out His sheep and that He has the responsibility to provide for and protect us from the evil one.
Personally I keep asking my Father and Creator for His truth. So as Jesus said, He won't tell us lies (stones or scorpions).I have full confidence that if I have not understood Him correctly He will rectify that with His truth. So again, all good my friend, for we follow a GOOD SHEPHERD Who feeds us TRUTH.
You neednt give me testimony of yourself, my post was directed at what you were saying, concerning "the Spirit of God opened my eyes to Satan and his future"
You believe its different than what Christ has already spoken correct?
No, not at all. Did Jesus tell those who contributed to the scriptures EVERYTHING, ALL TRUTH, EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of His Father? Of course not. Otherwise one could accuse Him of giving false promises.
So He gave His Spirit of Truth to carry out this important task within the church.
Therefore God says, those who have ears to hear, let them hear what the Spirit says to the church. Did Jesus place any limits on when the Spirit will lead us into ALL TRUTH? What about the scope and volume of this truth. Oh, He did say ALL truth. And spanning what period, what ages? No limits that I've read. So because God has no end, His story has no end. Does the scriptures cover every truth of every past and every future age? I'm certain the whole planet couldn't hold every truth if it were written down.
This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Sure. Those who follow Jesus not only agree with His words but believe and live by them.
When it comes to one's interpretation of what He said over against another's then that's a different story.
Just look at His parables. There's sooo many different interpretations of each and every parable recorded wouldn't you agree.
Matt 13:10
Then the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Why do You speak to the people in parables?”
11He replied, “The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:
‘Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.’
14In them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled:
‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people’s heart has grown callous;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn, and I would heal them.’
16But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
Then the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Why do You speak to the people in parables?”
11He replied, “The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:
‘Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.’
14In them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled:
‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people’s heart has grown callous;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn, and I would heal them.’
16But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
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