DOES GOD LIKE US?

[Dcopymope]

The point is how do you show that you 'Love' them.

Would you stop if you saw there car had broken down?
Would you pray for them, that is practical prayers for their real benefit?

My approach to certain creatures are different. In this world, you don't get respect for being nice and forgiving all the time, especially if you have dark skin, where there will be a special type of hatred towards you. It comes to a certain point where I become more old testament. If you disrepect me, you getting disrespected right back. As a black man who respects himself, the last thing I'll allow to be done to me is someone walking all over me. Being willfully treated like someone's little ##### ain't what Jesus preached, and it ain't about to happen to me.

 

[bbyrd009]

I think about the fact that Jacob also took advantage of Esau's hunger

Esau walked in there on his own, so he could not have been about to die, right? He is speaking in code, and as near as we can tell he is asking for "red liquid." too. Fwiw this is a repeating theme in Scripture, twins, or an older and a younger, etc, right. Consider Jacob and Esau as one person iow (you), and their hearts are on display once you understand the elements of the passage, and can compare with your heart, etc

 

[Willie T]

Esau walked in there on his own, so he could not have been about to die, right? He is speaking in code, and as near as we can tell he is asking for "red liquid." too. Fwiw this is a repeating theme in Scripture, twins, or an older and a younger, etc, right. Consider Jacob and Esau as one person iow (you), and their hearts are on display once you understand the elements of the passage, and can compare with your heart, etc

Very astute.

 

[Willie T]

My approach to certain creatures are different. In this world, you don't get respect for being nice and forgiving all the time, especially if you have dark skin, where there will be a special type of hatred towards you. It comes to a certain point where I become more old testament. If you disrepect me, you getting disrespected right back. As a black man who respects himself, the last thing I'll allow to be done to me is someone walking all over me. Being willfully treated like someone's little ##### ain't what Jesus preached, and it ain't about to happen to me.

Give thanks to God that He has given you some more time to continue working on that pride issue.

 

[Dcopymope]

Give thanks to God that He has given you some more time to continue working on that pride issue.

Having respect for yourself is not "pride".

 

[Nancy]

Esau walked in there on his own, so he could not have been about to die, right? He is speaking in code, and as near as we can tell he is asking for "red liquid." too. Fwiw this is a repeating theme in Scripture, twins, or an older and a younger, etc, right. Consider Jacob and Esau as one person iow (you), and their hearts are on display once you understand the elements of the passage, and can compare with your heart, etc

Of course, I do not know just what you are getting at here Mark.
lol. Yes, Esau walked in on his own, I do not see him asking for wine...but he did eat AND drink...I assume "wine" is what you mean by "red liquid" As far as their hearts being on display, not sure what you mean...of course we know their hearts from what God say's. Okay-splain Ricky! :

 

[Taken]

Genesis 6:5-8 "It grieved God that He had made man"
Genesis 6:6 "And The LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart."

Genesis 6:8 "for I am grieved that I have made them.’ But Noah found favour in the eyes of the LORD.” <------ So, God saw his creation as still redeemable? ♥

I know God LOVES us but, are there certain Christians, though LOVING them He finds less "likable" than others? I myself see a part of His character as having "special" people such as Abraham, being called a "friend of God" from God's own lips! David-a man after God's own heart...and others. So, whatcha think :)
-nancy

Yes God "Loves" all of His creations.

Does God Always "like" His creations? No.

As a matter of Fact, there are Times God "Strongly DISLIKES" ... which is Scripturally Expressed....with the term "HATE".

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Helen]

:cool: Oh I find it very easy to ignore some "Christians" I don't care for at all. If they dropped freaking dead tomorrow, I wouldn't miss a beat.

Haha!! Why don't you tell us how you really feel

You have probably just said what some of us feel ,but we wish to seem more spiritual by not "saying"it out loud. LOL

 

[Helen]

Esau walked in there on his own, so he could not have been about to die, right? He is speaking in code, and as near as we can tell he is asking for "red liquid." too. Fwiw this is a repeating theme in Scripture, twins, or an older and a younger, etc, right. Consider Jacob and Esau as one person iow (you), and their hearts are on display once you understand the elements of the passage, and can compare with your heart, etc

Another very good one... and the parents were both behind their children's "weaknesses"...

 

[Dcopymope]

Haha!! Why don't you tell us how you really feel

You have probably just said what some of us feel ,but we wish to seem more spiritual by not "saying"it out loud. LOL

Yep, I would much rather be up front and honest in the sight of God than be a hypocrite and put on a facade. We like to pretend that every so called "believer" is our "brother and sister in Christ". As the saying goes, not everybody that smiles in your face is your friend, and not every "christian" is my "brother" or "sister" in Christ just because they claim the title.

 

[bbyrd009]

Having respect for yourself is not "pride".

If you disrepect me, you getting disrespected right back.

that is tho, sry

 

[bbyrd009]

Of course, I do not know just what you are getting at here Mark.
lol. Yes, Esau walked in on his own, I do not see him asking for wine...but he did eat AND drink...I assume "wine" is what you mean by "red liquid" As far as their hearts being on display, not sure what you mean...of course we know their hearts from what God say's. Okay-splain Ricky! :

ah, "red liquid" or "red stew" or "red stuff" of some type, the type prolly doesn't matter, apparently it is the "red" part that matters? That provides the symbolism needed? Coming from a guy whose name means "red," kind of? Edom? We could also ask how Jacob came to be making red stewie stuff that he didn't even like anyway, i mean note that the guys who like it are the only ones who don't seem to be able to even make it lol, what is that?

and just so you know, i have no resolution here, the whole passage leaves me with more Qs than As too :)

but i think it's about Esau becoming Jacob bc he "despised his birthright," and imo neither one is the final product, but they are both steps that we will all go thru in our walk. Esau becomes Jacob, in ways that are even symbolically embedded in the text, seems like to me, only in this case (as compared to Cain killing Abel) the resolution does not come until later, When Edom is destroyed in the Wanderings. But some personal reflection will reveal enough elements from Cain and Abel to make that passage about "you" more understandable first imo.

Or perhaps one should start at Adam and Eve even, they are both you too, we all have a male and a female "side" so to speak. And fwiw i am just standing on giant's backs here, a search of relevant phrases here should lead one to them i guess

 

[amadeus]

Esau walked in there on his own, so he could not have been about to die, right? He is speaking in code, and as near as we can tell he is asking for "red liquid." too. Fwiw this is a repeating theme in Scripture, twins, or an older and a younger, etc, right. Consider Jacob and Esau as one person iow (you), and their hearts are on display once you understand the elements of the passage, and can compare with your heart, etc

Yes, the "red liquid" being the life blood of the flesh. Jacob was looking for something better, not "red blood" but rather the Holy Spirit but this early he did not know about that or that there was a better way. He went with what he had. He was still Jacob [supplanter, heel catcher] but in time he would be Israel [he will rule as God]. So then it was really the two, the twain, in one or the twins [Esau and Jacob] like unto us, the "old man" and the "new man" if we are able to understand it.

"That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness." Eph 4:22-24

Even Jacob with the birthright and the blessing was still not Israel. He did then with those gifts/tools have the time and the opportunity to progress, did he not?

"But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:" Eph 2:13-16

@bbyrd009 Yes again! I had written the above before reading your post #52. I see it in part [as through a glass darkly still] for it still leaves a lot of questions, doesn't it?

 

[Jun2u]

I know God LOVES us but, are there certain Christians, though LOVING them He finds less "likable" than others? I myself see a part of His character as having "special" people such as Abraham, being called a "friend of God" from God's own lips! David-a man after God's own heart...and others. So, whatcha think :)

"God is no respecter of persons."

 

[Taken]

My approach to certain creatures are different. In this world, you don't get respect for being nice and forgiving all the time, especially if you have dark skin, where there will be a special type of hatred towards you. It comes to a certain point where I become more old testament. If you disrepect me, you getting disrespected right back. As a black man who respects himself, the last thing I'll allow to be done to me is someone walking all over me. Being willfully treated like someone's little ##### ain't what Jesus preached, and it ain't about to happen to me.

I would say those deserving of respect are themselves respectable...
Similar to those deserving of honor are themselves honorable...

In this day however some people seem to believe "they" deserve "respect" because they are breathing, or confuse disagreeing with disrespect.

And then we have also Corrupt sitting Judges, Congressmen, Senators, etc. who are gifted with the Title... the Honorable...so-n-so. LOL.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Nancy]

ah, "red liquid" or "red stew" or "red stuff" of some type, the type prolly doesn't matter...

Or perhaps one should start at Adam and Eve even, they are both you too, we all have a male and a female "side" so to speak. And fwiw i am just standing on giant's backs here, a search of relevant phrases here should lead one to them i guess

but i think it's about Esau becoming Jacob bc he "despised his birthright," and imo neither one is the final product, but they are both steps that we will all go thru in our walk. Esau becomes Jacob, in ways that are even symbolically embedded in the text, seems like to me, only in this case (as compared to Cain killing Abel) the resolution does not come until later, When Edom is destroyed in the Wanderings. But some personal reflection will reveal enough elements from Cain and Abel to make that passage about "you" more understandable first imo.
Or perhaps one should start at Adam and Eve even, they are both you too, we all have a male and a female "side" so to speak. And fwiw i am just standing on giant's backs here, a search of relevant phrases here should lead one to them i guess... <---- I have thought often of Cain and Able when reading, or hearing about Esau's selling of his birthright...Not so much Adam and Eve tho...food for thought.

"We could also ask how Jacob came to be making red stewie stuff that he didn't even like anyway, i mean note that the guys who like it are the only ones who don't seem to be able to even make it lol, what is that?" IKR?!

"ah, "red liquid" or "red stew" or "red stuff" of some type, the type prolly doesn't matter, apparently it is the "red" part that matters? That provides the symbolism needed? Coming from a guy whose name means "red," kind of?" <----- Okay, I get the "red" symbolism thing now...Esau I guess also means, hairy! The Hebrews sure put a ton of importance in the names chosen for their children...awesome stuff.

"...and just so you know, i have no resolution here, the whole passage leaves me with more Qs than As too :)" DITTO

 

[Stranger]

Genesis 6:5-8 "It grieved God that He had made man"
Genesis 6:6 "And The LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart."

Genesis 6:8 "for I am grieved that I have made them.’ But Noah found favour in the eyes of the LORD.” <------ So, God saw his creation as still redeemable? ♥

I know God LOVES us but, are there certain Christians, though LOVING them He finds less "likable" than others? I myself see a part of His character as having "special" people such as Abraham, being called a "friend of God" from God's own lips! David-a man after God's own heart...and others. So, whatcha think :)
-nancy

I have been considering this question. As far as I can see, likeness doesn't matter one bit. The love of God towards the believer matters always. What believer ever measured up to the standard of God? Is there any believer that has not been a disappointment to God. No. None. Does God love any believer more than another? Of course not.

Is there any parent that can say they love one child more than another? Or, that they like one child more than the other? I couldn't. Some may be more obedient. Some may be rebellious. Likeness doesn't affect the love for each.

I just don't think likeness plays a role.

Stranger

 

[Dcopymope]

I would say those deserving of respect are themselves respectable...
Similar to those deserving of honor are themselves honorable...

In this day however some people seem to believe "they" deserve "respect" because they are breathing, or confuse disagreeing with disrespect.

And then we have also Corrupt sitting Judges, Congressmen, Senators, etc. who are gifted with the Title... the Honorable...so-n-so. LOL.

God Bless,
Taken

If they aren't respectable, then I honestly cannot claim to "love" them as I do myself. The two terms go hand in hand the way I see it.

 

[Windmill Charge]

My approach to certain creatures are different. In this world, you don't get respect for being nice and forgiving all the time, especially if you have dark skin, where there will be a special type of hatred towards you. It comes to a certain point where I become more old testament. If you disrepect me, you getting disrespected right back. As a black man who respects himself, the last thing I'll allow to be done to me is someone walking all over me. Being willfully treated like someone's little ##### ain't what Jesus preached, and it ain't about to happen to me.

In this life respect has to be earned. Some people will never respect those they despise.
But.
We are not called to gain the respect of the world, but to imitate Jesus.
He did not disrespect or hate his killer, rather he prayed for them, that God would deal with/forgive them.

There is nothing wrong with self respect. There is wrong in responding in the same way the world reacts.

 

[Mjh29]

To me, this is the beauty of God. He is so far above human reasoning, that to us what seems a contradiction is really just us not having the capability of understanding. For instance, God is Love, but He is also justice. So... is He sometimes one and sometimes the other? No because He is never changing. Is He more one sometimes and more the other at other times? Again... no, He never changes. At the same time that He is perfectly, 110 percent love, He is also perfectly, 110 percent just. At the same time it perfectly 110 prct. satisfies His justice to punish sinners, it perfectly, 110 prct. Grieves Him to punish the creation He loves.

My point is that God's vastness is so great, that at many times things such as mentioned above seem impossible, but must be true according to Scriptures.

To answer the question, I believe that Scriptures teach that, while He 110 prcnt loves all His choosen with the same general love, He does have those whom He loves with a special love, those whom He chooses to do His work. God is infinite, so I really don't think He could love His people any more or less. Now, we could get into a discussion about the difference between His love for His people and His love for humanity, however, I would much prefer to do that over PM if you are interested, as not to stirr up strife. Thank you for your challenging and well thought out question, and God Bless!!