Thanks for showing us your BIBLICAL IGNORANCE, and your desire to be deceived by following men's doctrines instead of God's written Word.
Well, let’s see who is displaying Biblical ignorance and who actually studies God’s word with the original languages in mind…..
Matt 1:21-23
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
KJV
Yes, but Jesus was called Jesus, not Immanuel. And “God with us” or “With us is God” does not state that Jesus was God but that God was with the people who listened and obeyed his son…..the one who came as his representative. Jesus himself says that he was “sent” by “the only true God” (John 17:3)
Did God send himself? If so why would Jesus call his Father “the only true God“ without including himself in that statement?
How could he say “the Father is greater than I am”? (John 14:28)
How can he call the Father “my God“ even in heaven? (Rev 3:12)
The prophets of old were God’s representatives, and God was “with” Israel by means of these spokesmen.
Did that mean that the prophets were also “God”?
That above idea about that Child (Jesus) was NOT the only prophecy about Him given through Isaiah...
Isa 9:6-7
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
KJV
Did you get that? Jesus, The "Prince of Peace", is ALSO CALLED "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" in God's written Word!!!
Oh dear, no need to shout….Jesus is called a “Prince”….so what is a “Prince”…he is the son of a king….who is the king? Yahweh, Jehovah God. Can Jehovah God be a king and a prince at the same time?
He is called “Mighty God” but not “Almighty God”. The definition of the words used in both Hebrew and Greek (for god(s) can be given to those who act with divine authority as Jesus did…as the judges in Israel did according to John 10:31-36.….
”31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?” (KJV)
If Jehovah himself can call the judges in Israel “gods” then the word doesn’t just mean what you think it does. Do you study the Bible at all or just your own theology?
The Jews accusing him of blasphemy were trying to pin a charge on him so they had an excuse to put him to death. Jesus never once claimed to be God, but as you can clearly see, if there was ever a time to claim it, he would have, because Jesus knew that they were going to have him executed anyway……but he is what he called himself…..”the son of God”. Never is Jesus called Almighty God.
Now what about the title “everlasting Father”…..is the son his own “Father”?
Again, the word “father” in Hebrew can mean a few things…according to Strongs Concordance, the word translated “father” can mean…
- father of an individual
- of God as father of his people
- head or founder of a household, group, family, or clan
- ancestor”
So Isaiah isn’t necessarily saying what trinitarians want him to say…..
Jesus can be all those things that Isaiah said, without being “Almighty God”.
And ONLY JESUS OF NAZARETH is to inherit the THRONE OF HIS FATHER DAVID, which is how to POSITIVELY KNOW that Isaiah 9:6-7 is about Jesus Christ!
You have been LIED to by the Jehovah's Witness organization.
LOL…..so who has lied to You?
You trust a corrupted and divide church system that displays little resemblance to the Christianity taught by Jesus, but still claims him as their “Lord”…..that means nothing to Jesus who will judge all of us by what, and whom we “choose” to believe. (Matthew 7:21-23)
It is apparent that you are good at giving the party line, but on very flimsy evidence that you have been led to believe is true. Ask who led you? Are the ones pointing the finger at us, not pointing three back at themselves?
It is true that Jesus inherits “the throne of David”, but nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus is God incarnate. If Jesus was God, he never said so, but directed all worship to his God and Father. (John 20:17; Luke 4:5-8)
(Brethren in Christ, I'm waiting for Aunty Jane to claim her JW New World Bible version doesn't say the above Scripture, which will be a lie, because it does have the above Isaiah Scripture.)
You crack me up….I use a variety of Bibles as I am a student of God’s word and have been for over 50 years….I like to compare translations and then use the interlinears and concordances for clarification. To date, only JW’s are guided by the unadulterated word of God. Would you like to compare translations? Or are you stuck with the old dinosaur KJV with its antiquated language and misleading translations.
If you believe that our NWT is not accurate, then let’s compare…..I studied the KJV. In my youth but found it so difficult to understand it’s outdated language. For any new Bible student, it is a nightmare trying to discipher the meaning of many verses. But more modern translations have to convey the meaning of scripture in the language of today, or they will not get the benefit of linguistic advancements and in knowledge of original language words or idioms.
Are you a dinosaur stuck in the past, or are you a Bible student who wants the truth no matter how hard it is to hear? It’s your choice.