Does the day of Christ resurrection tell us to worship on Sunday?

[John Caldwell]

Why is it people can read the Bible and still look for salvation that is God's righteous manifested through the Law?

 

[shnarkle]

“The law is a witness to the truth”
I thought scripture says you’ll know them by their fruits?

They're not mutually exclusive. How does one know to distinguish between fruit and sin? The law instructs us in what is sin, and what is not. The Spirit confirms the witness of the law because the law is spiritual.

" What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! We know that the law is spiritual". Rom7:7:14

 

[Waiting on him]

They're not mutually exclusive. How does one know to distinguish between fruit and sin? The law instructs us in what is sin, and what is not. The Spirit confirms the witness of the law because the law is spiritual.

" What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! We know that the law is spiritual". Rom7:7:14

Fruit is love, peace, joy, etc.....

 

[Waiting on him]

They're not mutually exclusive. How does one know to distinguish between fruit and sin? The law instructs us in what is sin, and what is not. The Spirit confirms the witness of the law because the law is spiritual.

" What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! We know that the law is spiritual". Rom7:7:14

Your post implied there known by not gathering sticks on Saturday,

 

[shnarkle]

Why is it people can read the Bible and still look for salvation that is God's righteous manifested through the Law?

Why are some people so compelled to bear false witness? Could it be that justifying sin causes one to sin all the more? Could that be why Christ refers to it as "an abomination"?

 

[shnarkle]

Fruit is love, peace, joy, etc.....

And the fruit of the Spirit does not transgress God's law. There is no commandment against keeping God's law.

 

[shnarkle]

Your post implied there known by not gathering sticks on Saturday,

Please repost this so that it may be understood. This is incoherent.

 

[Waiting on him]

And the fruit of the Spirit does not transgress God's law. There is no commandment against keeping God's law.

Agreed.

 

[shnarkle]

Agreed.

Therefore those who transgress God's law continue to sin. Those who do so willingly will have no recourse to Christ's sacrifice under the New Covenant as "there remains no more sacrifice for sin" Hebrews 10:26.

This spotlights the fact that one is either damned, or they are not a new creation, but still deceived in their sins.

 

[Waiting on him]

Please repost this so that it may be understood. This is incoherent.

You wouldn't. But again, the law is a witness to the truth, and if you think you can ignore God's law, then you obviously don't have them written on your heart to begin with. You're deceived.

You say our not gathering twigs on Saturday is a witness to truth. I say the fruit of the Spirit is the witness of Christ in us.

 

[Waiting on him]

Therefore those who transgress God's law continue to sin. Those who do so willingly will have no recourse to Christ's sacrifice under the New Covenant as "there remains no more sacrifice for sin" Hebrews 10:26.

This spotlights the fact that one is either damned, or they are not a new creation, but still deceived in their sins.

Where did you learn of these laws?

 

[shnarkle]

You say our not gathering twigs on Saturday is a witness to truth.

False. Strawman argument. You are ignoring my post, or simply haven't comprehended it at all.

I say the fruit of the Spirit is the witness of Christ in us.

And there can be no sin in Christ. Sin, as defined by the bible, is transgression of God's law. You justify transgressing God's law which Christ himself states is an abomination. There can be no fruit of the Spirit in transgressing God's law. Only the lust of the flesh causes one to transgress God's law. Those who walk after the Spirit do not fulfill the lust of the flesh. They do not sin, nor do they redefine sin to justify themselves.

 

[Waiting on him]

False. Strawman argument. You are ignoring my post, or simply haven't comprehended it at all.



And there can be no sin in Christ. Sin, as defined by the bible, is transgression of God's law. You justify transgressing God's law which Christ himself states is an abomination. There can be no fruit of the Spirit in transgressing God's law. Only the lust of the flesh causes one to transgress God's law. Those who walk after the Spirit do not fulfill the lust of the flesh. They do not sin, nor do they redefine sin to justify themselves.

So, where did you learn of these laws?

 

[shnarkle]

Where did you learn of these laws?

As Jesus would say, "Haven't you read what it says in the book of Moses"? If you don't have the ears to hear what Moses and the prophets have to say, you will not be persuaded even if someone were to rise from the dead. Luke 16:31

"The Spirit breathes where he will. You hear the sound of his voice, but you have no clue where it is coming from or where it is going. So too are those who are born of the Spirit". They look but can't see, they listen, but can't hear, nor can they understand...

 

[Waiting on him]

As Jesus would say, "Haven't you read what it says in the book of Moses"? If you don't have the ears to hear what Moses and the prophets have to say, you will not be persuaded even if someone were to rise from the dead. Luke 16:31

"The Spirit breathes where he will. You hear the sound of his voice, but you have no clue where it is coming from or where it is going. So too are those who are born of the Spirit". They look but can't see, they listen, but can't hear, nor can they understand...

Lol, okay thanks.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Helen said: ↑
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oh no...not ANOTHER thread on this...there have been so many...and some still going ...Nothing new, same ol' same ol' arguments ..

Same old soup, just a different spoon.

Yes; because there truly is NO ONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH "concerning the day the Seventh Day GOD THUS .. IN THESE LAST DAYS .. BY THE SON .. SPAKE" and for "ONCE AND ALL", has spoken by and in the SCRIPTURES. They would rather be DAMNED than inquire after God's truth WRITTEN as well as LIVED by God's WORD the Son Jesus Christ. Whose Name only they want to bear on their jacket and t-shirt back as proud display not of IGNORANCE only but of a PROUD AND UNREPENTANT HAUGHTY HEART.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

From what I have been told the OT Jewish Calendar and the calendar we use today is not in sync with each other....also there are many people who keep everyday as Holy unto the Lord....and the "rest" isn't that what we enter when we are saved? We enter into His Rest....and finally do you really think God will deny us passage into heaven because we gathered in an assembly to worship Him on Sunday, or Monday or whatever day? Isn't it the heart of man that will be judged?
I have strong issues with church doctrines that teach people are in danger of being judged because of a day with which the come together to Worship His Holy Name.

It ever is <I> and <we> and <the heart of man that will be judged> ... in DEFIANCE of what HIS Sabbath Day means to the LORD of the Sabbath! God has a strong issue with church doctrines that teach people walk over and spit upon His Holy Day with which and upon which Christ IN THE FLESH came back from the dead and up from the grave again WHEREFORE those of "CHRIST'S OWN" .. "come together" to <Worship His Holy Name> "eating and drinking of Sabbath's-Feast whether of month's or weekly Sabbaths' (occurrence) and holding to the Head have Christ the Substance and Nourishment ministered" WHEREBY the "Body of Christ's Own grows with the growth of God".

Good, just ignore as if you have never seen this Holy Scripture translated truthfully, and so provide me the opportunity to REPEAT it in your faces as evidence that you DO know the truth "concerning the Seventh Day God" EVER, "thus, concerning has spoken".

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

No. There are God's laws, and then there are the ordinances that are "against us" Why? Because they are a set of laws explicitly for dealing with transgressions of God's law. e.g. Those "laws that were added because of transgressions", "the penalty", or "curse" of the law.

Untrue. The most important 'ordinance' of passover does not <<explicitly deal with transgressions of God's law>> but with salvation and the giving of God's Law(s).

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Passover was not a feast to begin with. He is referring to the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

Passover was a "feast" from the exodus out of Egypt which included the killing of the passover lamb of sacrifice. Abib 14 is the only date mentioned in the book of Exodus "when they killed the passover" as well as "ate the flesh with ulb" in the night, Exodus 12:8. The pericope that extends from 14 to 18, implies that Abib 14 was <<Feast of Unleavened Bread>> of eight days up until the one and twentieth day of the First Month". In fact the whole month of Abib is called the 'Month of Passover'.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

So it isn't the Feast days themselves that are done away with, but the sacrificial offerings that were carried out.

Senseless. What were the feast days for had they not their sacrifices!
Just to accommodate your skewed understanding of Colossians 2!