End-Time Deception - Hebrew Roots/Messianic Movement

[Reggie Belafonte]

You tend to say a lot of things which aren't supported by scripture, so I'm just unable to take you very seriously. With regard to the second coming of Jesus Christ I recommend that you read and consider chapter 1 of the acts of the Apostles, giving special attention to verses 9 through 11.
Believe the scriptures.

Thank you. but one needs the Holy Spirit to understand the scriptures in fact.
Yes and it says he goes up in the same manner as he comes down ? Who "seen" ? him go up in the flesh ? No one.

Do you understand what the Kingdom of God is in the Bible, as to yourself what is needed ?
The Jewish leadership did not have what it takes to fathom because they did not have eyes to see or ears to hear. so they seen Jesus Christ in the flesh in fact. but that's not the Key to who Jesus truly is, as one needs the Holy Spirit to do that.

Now Jesus apostles had faith in Jesus that he was the Christ, but they did not know 100% sure until Jesus went into Heaven and it was then that the message was sent, that they understood that Jesus was truly the Christ Jesus in fact. It's all about the Holy Spirit in fact, because Jesus is as the Holy Spirit. not to mention what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit or about as to himself in the flesh, he was bothered that a man would not reject him as a man, but what did Jesus say about one who was against the Holy Spirit.

Now only Nathaniel knew who Jesus Christ was directly because he was a true Israelite, just as Jacob was given the title by an angel and as Nathaniel was given the title by Jesus Christ himself and what did Jesus say that Nathaniel would see ? do you know.

Now when one understands who Saul is, then we read in Acts that he was their when Stephen pointed out the History of the Jews before the leadership and this points out directly the problem with the leaderships direction was wrong as to God, so they killed Stephen and that points to who they truly were in fact ?

Now Jesus points out such people who kill are of their Father, who was a murderer and a liar from the beginning, remember the Golden Calf Mob ! and all and the Vineyard story, of who killed all of Gods prophets and then God sent his only begotten Son ? you got a handle on what is being put forward here bro.

Now when Jesus risen up to Heaven, how does he come down ? well he says so ? by the Holy Spirit ! that's how one truly knows him, the Bible never says by sight, does it, now Nathaniel says the Jesus is the Christ, by what Jesus said to him ? bingo the lights went on for Nathaniel because he was a true Israelite the epitome of a King among men, as he was stamped with that fact by Jesus.

What does the Bible say about they who Believe yet never seen Him ? they are even more blessed.
The Bible also says not to believe anyone who says Jesus Christ is in town or over some place.
Christ Jesus is every were in fact and one can call on him, if they know him.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Thank you. but one needs the Holy Spirit to understand the scriptures in fact.
Yes and it says he goes up in the same manner as he comes down ? Who "seen" ? him go up in the flesh ? No one.

Do you understand what the Kingdom of God is in the Bible, as to yourself what is needed ?
The Jewish leadership did not have what it takes to fathom because they did not have eyes to see or ears to hear. so they seen Jesus Christ in the flesh in fact. but that's not the Key to who Jesus truly is, as one needs the Holy Spirit to do that.

Now Jesus apostles had faith in Jesus that he was the Christ, but they did not know 100% sure until Jesus went into Heaven and it was then that the message was sent, that they understood that Jesus was truly the Christ Jesus in fact. It's all about the Holy Spirit in fact, because Jesus is as the Holy Spirit. not to mention what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit or about as to himself in the flesh, he was bothered that a man would not reject him as a man, but what did Jesus say about one who was against the Holy Spirit.

Now only Nathaniel knew who Jesus Christ was directly because he was a true Israelite, just as Jacob was given the title by an angel and as Nathaniel was given the title by Jesus Christ himself and what did Jesus say that Nathaniel would see ? do you know.

Now when one understands who Saul is, then we read in Acts that he was their when Stephen pointed out the History of the Jews before the leadership and this points out directly the problem with the leaderships direction was wrong as to God, so they killed Stephen and that points to who they truly were in fact ?

Now Jesus points out such people who kill are of their Father, who was a murderer and a liar from the beginning, remember the Golden Calf Mob ! and all and the Vineyard story, of who killed all of Gods prophets and then God sent his only begotten Son ? you got a handle on what is being put forward here bro.

Now when Jesus risen up to Heaven, how does he come down ? well he says so ? by the Holy Spirit ! that's how one truly knows him, the Bible never says by sight, does it, now Nathaniel says the Jesus is the Christ, by what Jesus said to him ? bingo the lights went on for Nathaniel because he was a true Israelite the epitome of a King among men, as he was stamped with that fact by Jesus.

What does the Bible say about they who Believe yet never seen Him ? they are even more blessed.
The Bible also says not to believe anyone who says Jesus Christ is in town or over some place.
Christ Jesus is every were in fact and one can call on him, if they know him.

Actually the scripture does say "by sight" in regard to the return of our Lord. The scripture says that every eye will see Him.

Behold, He is coming with clouds,and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7

Salvation is accomplished through faith, but judgment is not by faith, but by appointment. It's a predetermined thing even if we weren't given to know when. He will return at the time appointed by the Father and the world will be judged according to the word He has given. Amen.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Actually the scripture does say "by sight" in regard to the return of our Lord. The scripture says that every eye will see Him.

Behold, He is coming with clouds,and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7

Salvation is accomplished through faith, but judgment is not by faith, but by appointment. It's a predetermined thing even if we weren't given to know when. He will return at the time appointed by the Father and the world will be judged according to the word He has given. Amen.

Yep every eye will see him, but how would a carnal person interpret such ?

Well well if one understands a bit of early Hebrew one would have a better handle on what the English is translating in that.

When Jesus coming in his Majesty = Clouds. every Soul will see him in his majesty. This means the minds eye = Soul will see him. you can not know ones Lord and Saviour in any other way in fact.

It's always a carnal objective to see him in the flesh, then such as they claim they will believe . I have had this drilled to me by many an atheist, it's all about that they have to see the evidence ? then they claim they will believe! but that's just total BS in fact, they will not follow they will kill ! they are just as Man was 2000 years ago in fact.
The Bible points out it's not about seeing him at all. It's about having faith in him and abiding in him in fact, that's the Key !

2000 years ago the morons seen him in the flesh, such meant zip in fact, as that's not the point that the Savour of Mans Soul is about.
Your Soul is what has to be connected to our Lord and Saviour, so apart from that one is only Carnal.

Appointment ? Blind faith does not cut it at all, you must have faith that can move mountains in fact.

If one thinks it's all about an appointment, they are only religious like the Jews, who do not know Jesus is the Christ.
Judgment is for the un saved.

Jesus has been coming to people for 2000 years now, he said that he will never leave us in fact. he came to me ! that's how one truly becomes born again. other than that one is only just religious.

What people who claim such nonsense as you are claiming is that Jesus did not finish the Job and that he must come back down to finish off the job, because such a people can not fathom the Holy Spirit. it's not in them.

The Second coming is when people have brought the Hellfire on themselves and then all the delusions will be burnt up and exposed, then the only direction will be to abide in Christ Jesus in fact, now them people will be born again, but fact is that some people have been born again over the 2000 years and the fact is once truly born again, one can not pluck one out of Jesus Christ hand in fact, because they are Saved, their Soul is Saved. that can not be separated, just as the ones at the start of the beginning of the new age after the Hellfire, they will be saved, just like I am and others are now. Saved is saved regardless. one can not get saved and then plus saved.

So if one is Saved now and if you lived through the Hellfire you are the same thing, just that after, all will be saved.
If you were truly Saved and you were to die, you are Saved regardless.
If you were Saved and died in the Hellfire to come, you are still Saved regardless.

Saved is all about the Soul, salvation is about the Soul directly and not the flesh first up. once the Soul is plugged in then the flesh abides doing the will of the Soul that is connected to Christ Jesus. who is our Lord and Saviour.
Jesus means Saviour, your Souls Salvation.
Christ means Lord. you obey because he is your Lord and Shepherd.
You have been blessed with free will, you serve one or the other.
Jesus Christ is the easy way but remember the pricks as you are under a yoke being directed by God.

Some have claimed that they are saved and free to do as they please, they are under delusions of Mans works, they claim Jesus works are finished as in a done deal. God does deals with Man no he does not do deals at all ! only the Devil does deals in fact. Jesus pointed this out to the Devil in fact.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Yep every eye will see him, but how would a carnal person interpret such ?

Well well if one understands a bit of early Hebrew one would have a better handle on what the English is translating in that.

When Jesus coming in his Majesty = Clouds. every Soul will see him in his majesty. This means the minds eye = Soul will see him. you can not know ones Lord and Saviour in any other way in fact.

It's always a carnal objective to see him in the flesh, then such as they claim they will believe . I have had this drilled to me by many an atheist, it's all about that they have to see the evidence ? then they claim they will believe! but that's just total BS in fact, they will not follow they will kill ! they are just as Man was 2000 years ago in fact.
The Bible points out it's not about seeing him at all. It's about having faith in him and abiding in him in fact, that's the Key !

2000 years ago the morons seen him in the flesh, such meant zip in fact, as that's not the point that the Savour of Mans Soul is about.
Your Soul is what has to be connected to our Lord and Saviour, so apart from that one is only Carnal.

Appointment ? Blind faith does not cut it at all, you must have faith that can move mountains in fact.

If one thinks it's all about an appointment, they are only religious like the Jews, who do not know Jesus is the Christ.
Judgment is for the un saved.

Jesus has been coming to people for 2000 years now, he said that he will never leave us in fact. he came to me ! that's how one truly becomes born again. other than that one is only just religious.

What people who claim such nonsense as you are claiming is that Jesus did not finish the Job and that he must come back down to finish off the job, because such a people can not fathom the Holy Spirit. it's not in them.

The Second coming is when people have brought the Hellfire on themselves and then all the delusions will be burnt up and exposed, then the only direction will be to abide in Christ Jesus in fact, now them people will be born again, but fact is that some people have been born again over the 2000 years and the fact is once truly born again, one can not pluck one out of Jesus Christ hand in fact, because they are Saved, their Soul is Saved. that can not be separated, just as the ones at the start of the beginning of the new age after the Hellfire, they will be saved, just like I am and others are now. Saved is saved regardless. one can not get saved and then plus saved.

So if one is Saved now and if you lived through the Hellfire you are the same thing, just that after, all will be saved.
If you were truly Saved and you were to die, you are Saved regardless.
If you were Saved and died in the Hellfire to come, you are still Saved regardless.

Saved is all about the Soul, salvation is about the Soul directly and not the flesh first up. once the Soul is plugged in then the flesh abides doing the will of the Soul that is connected to Christ Jesus. who is our Lord and Saviour.
Jesus means Saviour, your Souls Salvation.
Christ means Lord. you obey because he is your Lord and Shepherd.
You have been blessed with free will, you serve one or the other.
Jesus Christ is the easy way but remember the pricks as you are under a yoke being directed by God.

Some have claimed that they are saved and free to do as they please, they are under delusions of Mans works, they claim Jesus works are finished as in a done deal. God does deals with Man no he does not do deals at all ! only the Devil does deals in fact. Jesus pointed this out to the Devil in fact.

A covenant with God of any nature is by definition "a deal."
Yes, lots of men are delusional and some of them have entirely biblically based delusions. Yet, Christ gives His children a sound mind (His own.)

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

A covenant with God of any nature is by definition "a deal."
Yes, lots of men are delusional and some of them have entirely biblically based delusions. Yet, Christ gives His children a sound mind (His own.)

To a carnal person it may look that way being a deal.

When one is a contractor like myself I understand what a deal truly is all about, such a thing can be rejected at any time on the spot if need be in fact when one comes the raw prawn.

God has never did a deal ever, you abide or you don't in fact you must abide in or your out.

Did Jesus do deals, Never ! People may claim lord lord but Jesus says they he never knew them ? because they did not know him in fact. you must abide in the Lord Jesus, such a one is his body. so one is his or you are not in fact.

The Covenant is you abide in such or you don't.

Only the Devil does deals and his Mob of Satanist, and they are of this world. for they are lost, due to deceptions and delusions of this world.

When Hitler made all them people swear an oath to him, that was a deal that he made to them to follow or else. True born again Christians do not swear an oath to anyone over God.
All true Christians are under Gods Grace, so they would not hold one above Gods Laws.

The OT was the blueprint for the NT in fact. The OT was the seed being set and the NT is the berth into the Light. OT people do deals with a God they did or do not truly know. as No one can come to the Father but only through his only begotten Son.

The OT person will go back to it's vomit, for such knows no better and are just religious hacks, that are not worthy of the Light.

 

[michaelvpardo]

To a carnal person it may look that way being a deal.

When one is a contractor like myself I understand what a deal truly is all about, such a thing can be rejected at any time on the spot if need be in fact when one comes the raw prawn.

God has never did a deal ever, you abide or you don't in fact you must abide in or your out.

Did Jesus do deals, Never ! People may claim lord lord but Jesus says they he never knew them ? because they did not know him in fact. you must abide in the Lord Jesus, such a one is his body. so one is his or you are not in fact.

The Covenant is you abide in such or you don't.

Only the Devil does deals and his Mob of Satanist, and they are of this world. for they are lost, due to deceptions and delusions of this world.

When Hitler made all them people swear an oath to him, that was a deal that he made to them to follow or else. True born again Christians do not swear an oath to anyone over God.
All true Christians are under Gods Grace, so they would not hold one above Gods Laws.

The OT was the blueprint for the NT in fact. The OT was the seed being set and the NT is the berth into the Light. OT people do deals with a God they did or do not truly know. as No one can come to the Father but only through his only begotten Son.

The OT person will go back to it's vomit, for such knows no better and are just religious hacks, that are not worthy of the Light.

Pray for understanding and wisdom. I'm sure that God will at least grant the latter if not the former.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Pray for understanding and wisdom. I'm sure that God will at least grant the latter if not the former.

I am a professor on the subject.
I find that when the majority are talking about Jews, is that they do not understand what they are talking about truly at all. they are all dilettantes on the subject and mainly just pathetic preconceived conceptions.

Who is Israel ? only two people mentioned in the Bible that I know who were called that title, the first was Jacob by an Angel and the other was Nathaniel by Jesus Christ him self, not to mention all of what Jesus said to Nathaniel that he would see.

But on that subject you see your religious so called Priest run a mile from mentioning nowadays because they are all bastards or they fear to tell the facts, because the religious can not handle the truth, for such are not truly born again of the Holy Spirit in fact and are only wound up in religion, just as the poor deluded Jews were who rejected Jesus Christ, for they love this world and know not the Kingdom of God.
You must come out from them, as they burden all down around them with mans works and deceptions.
Jesus disciples came out from them ! Jesus said that this world is full of delusions and deceptions.
I pray for you.

 

[michaelvpardo]

I am a professor on the subject.
I find that when the majority are talking about Jews, is that they do not understand what they are talking about truly at all. they are all dilettantes on the subject and mainly just pathetic preconceived conceptions.

Who is Israel ? only two people mentioned in the Bible that I know who were called that title, the first was Jacob by an Angel and the other was Nathaniel by Jesus Christ him self, not to mention all of what Jesus said to Nathaniel that he would see.

But on that subject you see your religious so called Priest run a mile from mentioning nowadays because they are all bastards or they fear to tell the facts, because the religious can not handle the truth, for such are not truly born again of the Holy Spirit in fact and are only wound up in religion, just as the poor deluded Jews were who rejected Jesus Christ, for they love this world and know not the Kingdom of God.
You must come out from them, as they burden all down around them with mans works and deceptions.
Jesus disciples came out from them ! Jesus said that this world is full of delusions and deceptions.
I pray for you.

I can always use another prayer, but I was born again at the age of 39 and served the Lord since I was about 10. I place no confidence in such, but I have complete confidence in my Lord and His discipline.
I've never had an in depth conversation with an orthodox Jew, but because of circumstance (providence) and common interests, most of my closest friends have been secular jews, reformed practitioners, or born again Hebrew Christians. None of what you've said applies to them in any way. Since you're a professor, perhaps you're familiar with the concept of a tautology.
Maybe you're just antisemitic.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I can always use another prayer, but I was born again at the age of 39 and served the Lord since I was about 10. I place no confidence in such, but I have complete confidence in my Lord and His discipline.
I've never had an in depth conversation with an orthodox Jew, but because of circumstance (providence) and common interests, most of my closest friends have been secular jews, reformed practitioners, or born again Hebrew Christians. None of what you've said applies to them in any way. Since you're a professor, perhaps you're familiar with the concept of a tautology.
Maybe you're just antisemitic.

Iam praying for you here.
There is no such thing as an Antisemitic in fact.
To be an Anti-Semite truly means that one is referring to a Race.
The Semitic people are something in relation to 90% of Islamic people and about 10% of Jews.
Islam is not about a Race.
Christianity is not about a Race.
Judaism is not about a Race, but a people, a Tribe of a Religious order.

When typically someone makes claims that one is an Anti-Semite nowadays to the True devout Christian, that means that that person is totally ignorant of Christianity and such is truly typical of one who is coming from an Atheist background with there comments in fact, or is of Satan claiming to be a Christian or worse or just ignorant due to the deceptions of this world.

Christ Jesus does not embrace Islam not Islam in fact and nor does such embrace Religion per say, but is about the Holy Spirit that dwells in one to guide you, not your Religion, that is why one is called out from them and this world of delusions and deceptions. one must be truly born again of the Holy Spirit.
The Jews religion was corrupted, as in Acts St Stephen pointed such out in fact and they killed him ! because they were dominated by the Vineyard story, in who killed all of Gods prophets ! understand that fact. It was not the Jews who were worthy of God but they who they killed who God sent, and Saul got the message and came out from them, just as did the disciples ? all of such people were Jews and they were worthy of God in fact and they all had came out from Them ? They who lead their people astray ?

Now True Christianity comes from the Blueprint of the OT but the OT was the egg one could say and when Jesus went to Heaven then that egg hatched and we got the berth, that is the key to the living Jesus, that is Grace that we come to know him and understand who we truly are. remember what we did to Jesus Christ ? that's our carnal Sin nature due to original Sin.

See it's all about Christ Jesus ! not ones so called Race at all. only idiots get caught up in the Race rut. displaying ones so called Race card is a disgrace.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Iam praying for you here.
There is no such thing as an Antisemitic in fact.
To be an Anti-Semite truly means that one is referring to a Race.
The Semitic people are something in relation to 90% of Islamic people and about 10% of Jews.
Islam is not about a Race.
Christianity is not about a Race.
Judaism is not about a Race, but a people, a Tribe of a Religious order.

When typically someone makes claims that one is an Anti-Semite nowadays to the True devout Christian, that means that that person is totally ignorant of Christianity and such is truly typical of one who is coming from an Atheist background with there comments in fact, or is of Satan claiming to be a Christian or worse or just ignorant due to the deceptions of this world.

Christ Jesus does not embrace Islam not Islam in fact and nor does such embrace Religion per say, but is about the Holy Spirit that dwells in one to guide you, not your Religion, that is why one is called out from them and this world of delusions and deceptions. one must be truly born again of the Holy Spirit.
The Jews religion was corrupted, as in Acts St Stephen pointed such out in fact and they killed him ! because they were dominated by the Vineyard story, in who killed all of Gods prophets ! understand that fact. It was not the Jews who were worthy of God but they who they killed who God sent, and Saul got the message and came out from them, just as did the disciples ? all of such people were Jews and they were worthy of God in fact and they all had came out from Them ? They who lead their people astray ?

Now True Christianity comes from the Blueprint of the OT but the OT was the egg one could say and when Jesus went to Heaven then that egg hatched and we got the berth, that is the key to the living Jesus, that is Grace that we come to know him and understand who we truly are. remember what we did to Jesus Christ ? that's our carnal Sin nature due to original Sin.

See it's all about Christ Jesus ! not ones so called Race at all. only idiots get caught up in the Race rut. displaying ones so called Race card is a disgrace.

Your definition of true Christianity just doesn't work for the gentile church which was, for the most part ignorant of the content of scripture. Literacy in the first century was a rarity and very few were familiar with the law and the prophets ( beyond those like Timothy with mixed ancestry).

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”—to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Acts 15:24-29

Do you think that God, in the person of the Holy Spirit made a mistake?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Your definition of true Christianity just doesn't work for the gentile church which was, for the most part ignorant of the content of scripture. Literacy in the first century was a rarity and very few were familiar with the law and the prophets ( beyond those like Timothy with mixed ancestry).

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”—to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Acts 15:24-29

Do you think that God, in the person of the Holy Spirit made a mistake?

I could not give a rats of the Gentile Church.
Under Christ Jesus their is only one body of people, the Saved ! That's the whole point, you must be born again, other than that ones race does not come into it.
Jesus Disciples were the first Christians in fact, yep Jews, but that changed directly becau7se they were truly the people of God = Israel.

Yes Israel means the people of God, Servants of God, who do they serve, who are they serving ? God !
What do people need ? well they need to be born again, of the Holy Spirit to be saved.

Now ones race has nothing to do with getting born again.

People who get on and play the race card are morons.

 

[michaelvpardo]

I could not give a rats of the Gentile Church.
Under Christ Jesus their is only one body of people, the Saved ! That's the whole point, you must be born again, other than that ones race does not come into it.
Jesus Disciples were the first Christians in fact, yep Jews, but that changed directly becau7se they were truly the people of God = Israel.

Yes Israel means the people of God, Servants of God, who do they serve, who are they serving ? God !
What do people need ? well they need to be born again, of the Holy Spirit to be saved.

Now ones race has nothing to do with getting born again.

People who get on and play the race card are morons.

Your words suggest that you don't know God at all. If you did, you would love the gentile church.

9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. 10 He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. 11 But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes. 1 John 2:9-11

Repent and believe the word.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Your words suggest that you don't know God at all. If you did, you would love the gentile church.

9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. 10 He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him. 11 But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes. 1 John 2:9-11

Repent and believe the word.

Like I said I am praying for you.
I do not see people in such a light as you do. that's a typical carnal attitude.
All People are blighted in fact regardless, due to the Stain of Original Sin, end of story bro. only a fool would claim otherwise.
The only Jews who were worthy of God were they who stayed true and did not turn their backs on God and if you ever had studied the OT you would understand that.

There is only two, God and you and you know what makes that possible, The Holy Spirit.

The Jews did not know God and no one knows God until Jesus Christ went to Heaven bro. For no one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son. do you understand that fact bro.

You must be truly born again to be worthy of God, only fools talk about some race of Jews is were it's all at. People who talk like that is because like such are not Saved in fact. They are looking for Jesus ? They do not posses the Grace of God. They is looking to the 2ed coming to be Saved the poor blighted fools.

Jesus said to them who say Lord lord, that he never knew them !
Jesus said he hates the Sin but has love for the poor Sinner ? for they know not what they do, is the key of that, as if they did they would repent.

What does God hate ! it's stated in the Bible all of them.
Hang on ! nowadays we have hate crimes Laws that have been now set in place, so the Bible has to go. because God hates ! but God has every reason to hate such things in Man. because it corrupts ones Soul.
But as to our new found Mans works Laws, now do they have any regards to ones Soul ? No not at all, because they are a works of Man not God and who will win Man who sets himself up as God or God will win and Man will destroy themselves, as is such all through history because such is Sick due to such a depravity. Such has nothing to do with race at all, we all suffer from the same problem regardless.

All people suffer from a sickness and there is only one cure, one must abide in Christ Jesus, as outside of that is of Satan.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

Your definition of true Christianity just doesn't work for the gentile church which was, for the most part ignorant of the content of scripture. Literacy in the first century was a rarity and very few were familiar with the law and the prophets ( beyond those like Timothy with mixed ancestry).

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”—to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Acts 15:24-29

Do you think that God, in the person of the Holy Spirit made a mistake?

It is incorrect to claim most Gentile converts were ignorant of the content of scripture in light of James stating in Acts 15:21 that the Law was read to the Gentiles in all of the synagogues. That's excluding the fact that Paul frequently quoted the Law or referenced a principle from the Law in his letters to Gentile congregations. Acts also shows that when Paul preached to Gentiles, He customarily did so using the Law and Prophets.

It stands to reason that the Gentiles would've been familiar with those sections, even if they weren't as knowledgeable about them as Paul was. People never stop to think about the fact that if Paul had to preach to Gentiles about Jesus being the Messiah, he would've had to first familiarize those people with the Law and Prophets since they contain the most content about Jesus' earthly ministry and mission. You are ironically defeating your own argument by using this passage. The fact that James only had to reference those specific laws to help the Gentile converts know what they shouldn't do shows they were certainly literate in regards to the Law and Prophets.

 

[michaelvpardo]

It is incorrect to claim most Gentile converts were ignorant of the content of scripture in light of James stating in Acts 15:21 that the Law was read to the Gentiles in all of the synagogues. That's excluding the fact that Paul frequently quoted the Law or referenced a principle from the Law in his letters to Gentile congregations. Acts also shows that when Paul preached to Gentiles, He customarily did so using the Law and Prophets.

It stands to reason that the Gentiles would've been familiar with those sections, even if they weren't as knowledgeable about them as Paul was. People never stop to think about the fact that if Paul had to preach to Gentiles about Jesus being the Messiah, he would've had to first familiarize those people with the Law and Prophets since they contain the most content about Jesus' earthly ministry and mission. You are ironically defeating your own argument by using this passage. The fact that James only had to reference those specific laws to help the Gentile converts know what they shouldn't do shows they were certainly literate in regards to the Law and Prophets.

James was not a missionary and lead the church in Jerusalem.
Literacy in the first century was extremely low, primarily because there were no books, just rare hand written scrolls that cost more than most Christians could possibly afford.
This isn't an argument, it's fact.
Some gentiles might have attended synagogues out of a fear of the God of Israel and the outermost court of the temple was "the court of the gentiles", where the gentiles could pray and purchase animals to be sacrificed on their behalf. They could not pass into the inner courts on penalty of death. This was the case long before the birth of our Lord.
In the Biblical example of the Roman Centurion mentioned in scripture , he supported his local synagogue with his means, but by the time of the 1st persecution Christians weren't even allowed in the synagogues and to attend one meant arrest and potential execution.
If you're careful in your reading, you'll see that Paul presented himself as a Jew to reach Jews, modifying his behavior in order to be received and have opportunity to preach the gospel in the synagogues, but was typically rejected and sometimes violently (on one occasion he was stoned to the point where the crowd believed him dead.)
Read Acts 15 again carefully, it says nothing about gentiles hearing the law in synagogues and given that gentiles were considered unclean and thought of as dogs, its highly unlikely that they would've even been allowed entry unless they were living under the law of Moses (the law provided for only one law to both Jew and "stranger" in the possession of Israel.)
I don't really have time to teach you the Bible, so I suggest that you read it from front to back a bit, carefully, because you're obviously missing a lot.

 

[James Forthwright]

As an adherent of the (so called) Hebrew Roots/Messianic movement, I have found much spiritual enrichment in following God's Law regarding the scriptural feast days, food cleanliness statutes and especially observing the weekly Sabbath (sundown Friday - sundown Saturday) as well as studying the books of the Torah. As a Christian, I also believe that it is important to emulate Yahshua/Jesus' example in following His Father's will as closely as humanly possible. Jesus never transgressed the Law nor did He ever directly preach against it but rather strengthened its eternal nature and benefit for mankind. Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[michaelvpardo]

As an adherent of the (so called) Hebrew Roots/Messianic movement, I have found much spiritual enrichment in following God's Law regarding the scriptural feast days, food cleanliness statutes and especially observing the weekly Sabbath (sundown Friday - sundown Saturday) as well as studying the books of the Torah. As a Christian, I also believe that it is important to emulate Yahshua/Jesus' example in following His Father's will as closely as humanly possible. Jesus never transgressed the Law nor did He ever directly preach against it but rather strengthened its eternal nature and benefit for mankind. Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

You might want to focus more on just studying scripture.
To be clear, Jesus openly admitted to working on the sabbath, which is a transgression of the law, but answered His accusers that "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”
The Bible doesn't say that Jesus never transgressed the Law, but says that He was without sin and always did what was pleasing to the Father.

16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner."

If you're unable to understand the how and why of Jesus' ministry, you'll never understand your liberty in Christ or the opposition between self righteousness and the righteousness of faith. I won't tell you how to live, but the law was given to confine everyone under sin and can not perfect righteousness.

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Hebrews 7:18-19

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Galatians 3:21-23

The Hebrew festivals are indeed rich with meaning pointing to Christ, but when you've recieved Him, they've already met their purpose.
When I was young and Catholic, I wanted to be a Jew. Now I'm old and having been born twice, I'm content with what the Lord created me to be.

 

[Pearl]

You might want to focus more on just studying scripture.
To be clear, Jesus openly admitted to working on the sabbath, which is a transgression of the law, but answered His accusers that "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.”
The Bible doesn't say that Jesus never transgressed the Law, but says that He was without sin and always did what was pleasing to the Father.

16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner."

If you're unable to understand the how and why of Jesus' ministry, you'll ever understand your liberty in Christ or the opposition between self righteousness and the righteousness of faith. I won't tell you how to live, but the law was given to confine everyone under sin and can not perfect righteousness.

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Hebrews 7:18-19

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.

The Hebrew festivals are indeed rich with meaning pointing to Christ, but when you've recieved Him, they've already met their purpose.
When I was young and Catholic, I wanted to be a Jew. Now I'm old and having been born twice, I'm content with what the Lord created me to be.

Your post is too difficult to read because of all the 'shouty' fonts.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Your post is too difficult to read because of all the 'shouty' fonts.

Don't read them then. I only use 1 font, but select larger size so that maybe the nearly blind to scripture will at least see that I'm not simply asserting opinion, but the word of God.

In a typical conversation, human beings really only "hear" or register an average of about 1 in 10 words. That's a lot of missing content intended for comprehension. Reading requires a higher degree of focus and concentration than listening, yet most readers (especially those trained in speed reading) only scan the written word for the "gist" of the meaning rather than examine something closely and meditate upon what is being said. The reading of scripture is further complicated with preconceptions from well-meaning but innacurate teachers, and dramatic alterations made by the entertainment industry.

From what I've read of your posts, you appear to be well grounded in scripture and, frankly, most of my posts, especially the "shouty" ones, aren't meant for you, but for enemies of the cross.

I've taught Sunday school classes and from a pulpit, but teaching was never my calling. I was born gentle as a lamb, but the Lord molded me into a warrior and gave me the heart of a defender. I wouldn't have chosen these things for myself as the desire of my heart was always peace before I was born again, but it makes no sense to question the wisdom of God.
Thank you for your comments though, even if contrary to His purposes. May the Lord bless you and grant you vision of the larger picture. Amen.

 

[Pearl]

From what I've read of your posts, you appear to be well grounded in scripture and, frankly, most of my posts, especially the "shouty" ones, aren't meant for you, but for enemies of the cross.

Thank you. Okay then, keep 'shouting' at those who are hard of hearing and writing in large text for those who have problems seeing the truth.