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brightfame52

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God doesn't make people sin. No one can blame God for their own sins.

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I dont know what you talking about, we are born into the world as sinners, and some sinners God decided to be born sinners He is going to punish for their sins, and He decided that some sinners He would have mercy on them and their sins. Nothing you can do about it friend.
 
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I dont know what you talking about, we are born into the world as sinners, and some sinners God decided to be born sinners He is going to punish for their sins, and He decided that some sinners He would have mercy on them and their sins. Nothing you can do about it friend.
If this were true, you would have God guilty of concupiscence, the desire for evil things.

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You still haven't showed it. What does kosmos mean here ? Jn 17:9

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

Abd here Jn 12:19

The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Perceive ye how ye prevail nothing? behold, the world is gone after him.

have you heard of CONTEXT?

Do you suppose the Greek Theos, when use of the God of the Bible, means the same when used for the devil?

Your arguments are "theological" and not Biblical!
 

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Again, If you teach God Loved all mankind, or Christ died for all mankind, you are preaching a false gospel ! God doesnt love the esaus of the world Rom 9:13

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

 

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If this were true, you would have God guilty of concupiscence, the desire for evil things.

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You speak evil of God friend. Again all of us are born sinners and deserve hell, yet God has decided to have mercy on some to Magnify His Grace and some He decided to give them what we all deserved, wrath and hell.
 

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So did God love esau ? Yes or No
 

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You are trying to TWIST the meaning of WORLD in John 3:16, by appealing to the USE in other places!

This is being DISHONEST!
Nah, you should have thought about context in the first place, but u ran and got those definitions without thinking. And it showed you were being dishonest.
 

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Dr A T Robertson

But Esau I hated (ton de Esau emisēsa). This language sounds a bit harsh to us. It is possible that the word miseō did not always carry the full force of what we mean by “hate.” See Mat_6:24 where these very verbs (miseō and agapaō) are contrasted. So also in Luk_14:26 about “hating” (miseō) one’s father and mother if coming between one and Christ. So in Joh_12:25 about “hating” one’s life. There is no doubt about God’s preference for Jacob and rejection of Esau
 
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