Evidence for the Genesis Flood

[Grailhunter]

Trail hunter noted: <200 million years ago>

Interesting, since the Bible indicates the creation is about six thousand years old.

You have said that before and I told you that I do not debate young earth and flat earth beliefs.
Believe what you want. No harm, no foul.

 

[William Barton]

The Bible describes the breakup in Genesis 7:11. I, and it was not 200 million years ago.

Well it did.
But just for your information, some of the stars we see at night might not be there any more. That light takes millions of years to get to us. At some point in the future we may see some of those light disappear.
Anyway I do not what to get into the young earth belief because it is just too silly.

Grailhunter noted: <just too, silly>

Out-of-hand rejection is a logical fallacy known as "begging the question."

o How is it that countless stars in the sky are burning?

o Where did the hydrogen in the sun come from, and how did it come together and ignite itself in the sun, and in thousands and thousands of other stars?

o Why does the earth have water, oxygen, and an ozone-layer shielding life below from cosmic radiation, but the other planets do not?

IMO this is not simply a scientific issue, rather it is somewhat a moral issue as well.

 

[Grailhunter]

The Bible describes the breakup in Genesis 7:11. I, and it was not 200 million years ago.

Grailhunter noted: <it did, too silly>

"Because I said so" is a logical fallacy known as "begging the question."

How is it that the stars have been burning millions of years. Where did the hydrogen come from, and how did it come together and ignite itself thousands and thousands of times?

The fact is that this is not a scientific issue, it is a moral issue.

No I said it is just too silly.
That that is the debate is too silly.
The Bible is not a good source for cosmology it is written from an ancient perspective.
There is nothing wrong with that but we are not going to find information on Quantum Mechanic or Astro Physics or DNA in the scriptures.....and good thing, what would they have done with a nuclear weapon?
A lot of people think that the sun---the stars burn.....but it is actually nuclear fusion. And yes they can last billions of centuries. And again we are in a scenario where we have no cosmic stopwatch so neither of us can prove our point so again I am not going to get into a pointless debate.

 

[William Barton]

No I said it is just too silly.
That that is the debate is too silly.
The Bible is not a good source for cosmology it is written from an ancient perspective.
There is nothing wrong with that but we are not going to find information on Quantum Mechanic or Astro Physics or DNA in the scriptures.....and good thing, what would they have done with a nuclear weapon?
A lot of people think that the sun---the stars burn.....but it is actually nuclear fusion. And yes they can last billions of centuries. And again we are in a scenario where we have no cosmic stopwatch so neither of us can prove our point so again I am not going to get into a pointless debate.

IMO the mechanism is somewhat beside the point. Rather the question is where all this hydrogen came from, and how did it coalesce and ignite itself thousands and thousands of times. Normally gases do not coalesce, rather they disperse. This solar fusion is commonly called "burning plasma."

We might also ask where space itself came from. Space is not nothingness, rather space is teeming with energy.

"The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork." (Psalm 19:1)

"The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand." (Isaiah 1:3)

 

[Grailhunter]

IMO the mechanism is somewhat beside the point. Rather the question is where all this hydrogen come from, and how did it coalesce and ignite itself thousands and thousands of times. Normally gases do not coalesce, rather they disperse. And this solar fusion is commonly called "burning plasma."

First off let me get this straight. God created everything. Really the question is the timeline.
Whether it is creation of the universe or life....that is all God. Evolution itself is God directed. It is called intelligent design.
Now let me address your statement.....
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe and it remains the most abundant element in the universe. The gravitational effect of stars pulls all it needs from the universe.