False Teaching: Mary died a virgin. Biblical Proof Mary had children.

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Yep, simple english sentence structure = no sex until later = Joseph: OK Lord, I will wait until after Jesus is born.
Yes, Mary… a godly female, had intercourse with her husband after Jesus’ birth.
( To teach otherwise… is to teach Mary disobeyed God to multiply) .

For the Female delivering a babe..

There was a Jewish religious time after the birth of a male and of a female … to be clean.

And a Sin Offering for the Female to Offer at the Temple door ( women not allowed in ), to be clean.

And the wife to have intercourse with her husband to fulfill Gods command to Multiply.

Lev 12:
[1] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
[3] And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
[4] And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying three and thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled.
[5] But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.
[6] And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
[7] Who shall offer it before the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
[8] And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.

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and ask me how many times I HAVE KNELT before a grave stone . sure its okay to be sad if we lose one
BUT after they have departed . We move on . either they knew CHRIST and are in a far better place
OR t hey did not and will wail .
That's a very unmerciful and TWISTED way to show mercy to those who have lost loved ones. EVERYBODY greives differently. NOT everyone is as DEVOID of mercy and love as YOU . . .
What i dont do is talk to my dead mother or anyone else that is gone .
SO keep on sending pictures to DEFEND WHY YOU KNEEL before statues of mary or other saints .
ITS ALL abomination TO THE HOLY GOD . And oH YEAH I KNOW mary was BLESSED and she will b e called
BLESSED by me . BUT praying to her . AGAIN IS ABOMINATION TO GOD . wake up . or prepare to wail on JESUS day .
Is that because YOU kicked them OUT of the Body of Christ?
You have the Authority to do that?

The Body of Christ INCLUDES those in Heaven AND on earth.

Rev. 6:9-10

When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”
 
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Oh my near and my dear friend David .
When i read what he wrote to you about us all LOVING the scriptures .
OH NO NO NO not all DO LOVE THE SCRIPTURES .
And that be A FACT . its a painful one to see but it is a fact .
I have watched them david . AND NOT cause i think i am all knowing or better than any
AS THEY ACCUSE ME OF DOING .
NO sir .
BUT I do watch . AND I DO SEE Exactly WHO folks are clinging too .
You see we know the sheep dont cling to false hoods , NOR to those WHO PREACH THEM .
And we know that birds of a feather are always gonna flock together .
whether it be of GOD or whether it be of satan . FOLKS gather with like minded folks .
SHEEP gather with sheep who are like minded ON THE TRUTH .
Help who you can . As i will do the same .
But
know and understand that the sheep will hear and the rest will reject .
TIS the way it is . THose who are the BORN AGAIN OF GOD , ARE THE BORN AGAIN OF GOD
all others are still in darkness . And NO SHEEP justifies lies and sin day in and day out either .
NOR DO IT SIT under and join with men or anyoen who preaches BIG TIME CONTRARY TO THE GOSPEL .
And more than you realize already do on even this site . THOUGH their doctrines do not agree
THEY BELEIF on UNBELEIF SURE DOES .
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Yep, simple english sentence structure = no sex until later = Joseph: OK Lord, I will wait until after Jesus is born
WRONG.
The Bibl3e NEVER makes this claim.

In the Biblical languages, the word "Until" does NOT necessarily indicate a subsequesnt cponsequence.
Let’s see what the Scriptures say about the use of the word, “UNTIL” . . .

Matt. 1:25
says: ". . . but kept her a virgin UNTIL she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

2 Samuel 6:23 tells us: Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child UNTIL the day of her death.
Are we to assume that Michal had children after she died?

Moses was buried by God in the valley of Moab after his death. Deut. 34:6 explicitly states: And he buried him in the valley of the land of Moab over against Phogor: and no man hath known of his sepulchre UNTIL this present day.
Sooooo – did they FIND his grave after this??

Let’s also examine Acts 2:34-35 (also see Psalm 110:1, Matt 22:44): For David did not go up into heaven, but he himself said: 'The Lord said to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand UNTIL I make your enemies your footstool."'
Are we to surmise that Jesus will cease to sit at the right hand of the Father after his enemies are made his footstool?

The problem here is that the anti-Catholic attempts to apply 21st century English to Hebrew and Greek from a culture thousands of years ago. The Bible does NOT support the idea that Mary had other children. Thhis is a 16th century invention . . .
 

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BoL, you don't seem to get it. You want biblical proof? haha....that's laughable; you wouldn't believe even if one rose from the dead and you want biblical proof? ....as if that'd make a difference!
What a nice COP-OUT. NO evidence, NO Scripture - NOTHING.
If you have nothing to aadd toi the conversation - simply walk away from your computer in your mother's basement ang get some sunshine . . .
 

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That's a very unmerciful and TWISTED way to show mercy to those who have lost loved ones. EVERYBODY greives differently. NOT everyone is as DEVOID of mercy and love as YOU . . .

Is that because YOU kicked them OUT of the Body of Christ?
You have the Authority to do that?

The Body of Christ INCLUDES those in Heaven AND on earth.

Rev. 6:9-10
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”
And again that has always been the problem with man . ALWAYS more concerned with what might offend man
RATHER than what actually offends GOD .
Your fruits are showing my friend . A harlots love is deadly . THOUGH it is often seen as caring and as loving
for humanity , ITS LOVE dishonors GOD and thus its love is total bad news for humanity .
OPEN . and no i aint gonna say SESAME . Only BIBLE .
OPEN BIBLE mr pan de muerte . Rather than t rying t oprove me wrong through emotions and accusations
Try simply reading the bible For YOU SELF . sorry bout that ol eng lish but i could not resist .
 
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if by understanding you mean the way that the RCC an d sadly most of protestantism calls understanding ,
THEN YOU JUST G AVE ME almost the best compliment ever .
AND Know this and hear this and KNOW that i will DIE long before i join an ythin g even remotley connected
to ecumenicalism to any intefaith , to any abraham peace accords , to anything of this so called inclusive god .
In fact i had rather be in prison and then KILLED ten times with the worst forms of punishment known to man
THAN TO EVEN consider a harlots love .
SO knowing that , knowing i have no desire for anything of this finding common ground , this co exist
this ecumeincal w horedom . What do you think about me now .
Would it be better if i was eradicated from the earth .
AM i dan gerous and a threat to glo bal peace
IT DONT honestly matter at all to me what YOU THINK about me. Nor if even the entire world
all of its false satanic religoins , from buddism to any other ism
were to disagree with me , IT SIMPLY dont worry me one bit . BIBLE TIME bud . You have been
not only decieved b ut GREATLY . EVEN the catholic church , which i do have issue with , HAS BEEN DECIEVED
by this harlot , even the protesetant realm which again i do have a problem with , EVEN IT has been
decieved by this same harlot and by this same god . AND FRANKLY the reason i said god and not GOD
is because its the devil . SURELY EVEN YOU would not want me to captilize god for him .
YEt have no idea yalls fake love ecuemincalsims intefaith , judge not , unity unity unity , finding common ground
IS COMING RIGHT F ROM satan . I will stand against it . AND BY GRACE i will fill the gap so many
are either to scared to fill OR TO DARN DECIEVED to even know what has come upon them .
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What a nice COP-OUT. NO evidence, NO Scripture - NOTHING.
If you have nothing to aadd toi the conversation - simply walk away from your computer in your mother's basement ang get some sunshine . . .
sadly it is men like quiet thinker who simply cannot help you . In fact i watch sold out false leaders in protestant
and catholic ville that can silence men like that . EVEN THOUGH they be false themselves .
NOW if only you W OULD heed the same advice . as in NO SCRIPTURE . cause
you as guilty as that man . and the blind just cannot help the blind . at most they can only see SOME of the faults in the others
BUT never in themselves . WANNA know what a whole heap of them have in common .
THEY been heeding the wrong men , bankrupt scholars and bankrupt insitutions that convinced them
THEY COULD NOT learn the scrips for themselves .
AND OH YEAH we got even those who cliamed they read JUST the scrips for themselves
that are just as confused as well .
IN ORDER to SEE if what one really beleives IS TRUE , WELL STILL i say GET THINE eyes INTO THAT BIBLE for some reading .
And never heed anyone , EVEN IF I SAY IT , that says YOU cannot learn the scrips , LEST YE learn them from me
OR our scholars , or our church , or our denomination . cause THEY LIE TO YOU and THEY LIE to ME .
YOU CAN LEARN .
 
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sadly it is men like quiet thinker who simply cannot help you . In fact i watch sold out false leaders in protestant
and catholic ville that can silence men like that . EVEN THOUGH they be false themselves .
NOW if only you W OULD heed the same advice . as in NO SCRIPTURE . cause
you as guilty as that man . and the blind just cannot help the blind . at most they can only see SOME of the faults in the others
BUT never in themselves . WANNA know what a whole heap of them have in common .
THEY been heeding the wrong men , bankrupt scholars and bankrupt insitutions that convinced them
THEY COULD NOT learn the scrips for themselves .
AND OH YEAH we got even those who cliamed they read JUST the scrips for themselves
that are just as confused as well .
IN ORDER to SEE if what one really beleives IS TRUE , WELL STILL i say GET THINE eyes INTO THAT BIBLE for some reading .
And never heed anyone , EVEN IF I SAY IT , that says YOU cannot learn the scrips , LEST YE learn them from me
OR our scholars , or our church , or our denomination . cause THEY LIE TO YOU and THEY LIE to ME .
YOU CAN LEARN .
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And again that has always been the problem with man . ALWAYS more concerned with what might offend man
RATHER than what actually offends GOD .

Your fruits are showing my friend . A harlots love is deadly . THOUGH it is often seen as caring and as loving
for humanity , ITS LOVE dishonors GOD and thus its love is total bad news for humanity .
OPEN . and no i aint gonna say SESAME . Only BIBLE .
OPEN BIBLE mr pan de muerte . Rather than t rying t oprove me wrong through emotions and accusations
Try simply reading the bible For YOU SELF . sorry bout that ol eng lish but i could not resist .
Well, when it comes to offending God – YOUR incessant judging oof people’s souls to eternal damnation will certainly do it.

You blaspheme Him EVERY TIME you condemn a person on this forum.
Only God and YOU know how many OTHER people you are condemning outside of here.

As I keep warning you – take heed of Matt. 7:1-2 because your very judgement from God depends on it . . .
 
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sadly it is men like quiet thinker who simply cannot help you . In fact i watch sold out false leaders in protestant
and catholic ville that can silence men like that . EVEN THOUGH they be false themselves .

NOW if only you W OULD heed the same advice . as in NO SCRIPTURE . cause
you as guilty as that man . and the blind just cannot help the blind . at most they can only see SOME of the faults in the others
BUT never in themselves . WANNA know what a whole heap of them have in common .
THEY been heeding the wrong men , bankrupt scholars and bankrupt insitutions that convinced them
THEY COULD NOT learn the scrips for themselves .
AND OH YEAH we got even those who cliamed they read JUST the scrips for themselves
that are just as confused as well .
IN ORDER to SEE if what one really beleives IS TRUE , WELL STILL i say GET THINE eyes INTO THAT BIBLE for some reading .
And never heed anyone , EVEN IF I SAY IT , that says YOU cannot learn the scrips , LEST YE learn them from me
OR our scholars , or our church , or our denomination . cause THEY LIE TO YOU and THEY LIE to ME .
YOU CAN LEARN .
If I could peoperly navigate through your distorted grammar - I woud fashion a response.

As it is - you'ree siimply vomitting-out your usual judgements instead of
God's message . . .
 
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Well, when it comes to offending God – YOUR incessant judging oof people’s souls to eternal damnation will certainly do it.

You blaspheme Him EVERY TIME you condemn a person on this forum.
Only God and YOU know how many OTHER people you are condemning outside of here.

As I keep warning you – take heed of Matt. 7:1-2 because your very judgement from God depends on it . . .
I aint the one condeming folks . ITS THE ECUMEINCAL HARLOT and her love cup she has poured upon them
That has condemend them all to a lie that will forever be their own damantion .
IT AINT ME KISSING KORANS , IT AINT ME KISSING budda statues
It aint me saying that all religoins serve the same GOD and just come to GOD in different ways .
ITS THE HARLOT SELLING THAT LIE . And that HO has deeply infiltrated a ton of even the protestant realm itself .
AS she has every false religoin now . All crying WE are one , ALL crying GOD is love
AND YET NONE OF THEM KNOWS THE LOVE OF GOD OR GOD .
A harlot can lie bread . A HARLOT can surely lie . And she , as do her father satan
not only can lie BUT DO LIE and know how to appear as do a chameleon to blend into any denom nation
and the false religions in order to merge them all as one , and all beleiving they serve the same GOD .
OH no doubt they do serve the same god . ONLY notice i said god and NOT GOD .
 

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If I could peoperly navigate through your distorted grammar - I woud fashion a response.

As it is - you'ree siimply vomitting-out your usual judgements instead of
God's message . . .
The all inclusive god and his ecumeincal harlot cannot save thee , me , or humanity .
BUT SHE , as do her father , sure can LIE and make the lie seem as though its for the good of thee and of me and of humanity .
ONLY THE SHEEP AINT BUYING IT .
And why . OH it aint cause we better than anyone , fact is i was worse than most .
ITS CAUSE JESUS has the sheep . AND THE SPIRIT GUIDES THEM INTO TRUTH ,
NOT Into a harlots love and lie .
 

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Would that you actually understood those "meme-verses" you post - instead of REAL responses.

I underztand that this wpulld probably be too much for you - but you REALLY should know how to properly RESPOND to people who don't share your perverted vies of Scripture . . .
speaking of english , LOL , what on earth is wpulld . I Think you meant would .
No worries i dont hammer one for his or her english , i just show their hyprocrisy , WHEN its needed to be shown of course .
WHEN you , when I and when all stand before GOD , BEFORE CHRIST
on judgement day , YOU wont be condemend for saying wpulled rather than would
anymore than i for my fast english . BUT YOU WILL be condemened
FOR A LIE , A FALSE GOSPEL that WHORE sold as inclusive and had told all religoins of earth and of men
THEY ALL serve the same GOD . You need to check out the dialgoue of YA HARLOT . SHE BEEN LYING
for years to these relgions as well as to christendom .
I expose A HO and do not do as many and just go with her inclusive love flow . That ho gonna end all who sat under her.
CAUSE WHEN THE ONE TRUE GOD who WILL SEND THE SON , DOES SEND THE SON
THAT HO and all who sat under her all inclusive flow , her ecumeincal peace plan of anti christ ,
GOES DOWN without rememdy to be destroyed . And i dont want that for you . SO GET OUT of her
and into the bible now .
 
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Would that you actually understood those "meme-verses" you post - instead of REAL responses.

I underztand that this wpulld probably be too much for you - but you REALLY should know how to properly RESPOND to people who don't share your perverted vies of Scripture . . .
She , by grace understands , that to sit under a harlot is a second death sentence .
BUT UNLIKE our sold out protestant churches , DOES NOT TRY and USURP authority over the church .
NOW what you got to say . I SEE Women leading this people . NOW its far worse on the protesetant side
but it is increasing on the catholic side .
I SEE something even worse than that too . I SEE the harlot who BOTH SIDES HEED
FLEECING this people with a TOTALLY false hope , a false love , and what she cliams as if it be of GOD ,
A FALSE GO SPELL . T OTALLY DENYING the one true gospel of GOD and of CHRIST
and even doing it while USING HIS OWN NAME . that HO going down buddy . AND so is e veryone else
connected to her .
 
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HUH??

That's ALL you DO is to judge and condemn the sould of otheers - in complete violation of the Gospel. You're nothing more than a Pharisee.

Repent and humble yourself instead of misrepresenting Christ . . .
please , its the chosen jesus mispresenting the ONE TRUE JESUS that most now sit under .
A ecuemincal jesus that does the work of an harlot .
AND THAT AINT JESUS . it aint me overlooking sins and errors and hollering judge not .
IT aint me overlooking the fact THAT EVERY OTHER RELIGOIN serves satan .
ITS THAT HO . SHE the one lying to you and she the one trying to lie to me .
ONLY i aint the one buying her all inclusive ecumeincal lie sold as love and sold as a means for world peace .
OH i know the ho is promising you all , the false religoins , much of christendom and the world
THAT THIS be the way to GOD and to peace n safety . BUT OH NO IT AINT .
ITS the way to another god and it will be to their own SUDDEN destruction ON JE SU SDAY
by THE ONE TRUE GOD who has given ALL judgement unto the SON .
NOT UNTO THE POPES , NOT UNTO THE PROTESTANT REALM EITHER
BUT ALL JUDGMENT IS AND BELONGS ONLY TOO , JESUS THE CHRIST . so get the heck out of that building fast .
Cause its all coming DOWN to the GROUND on JESUS DAY .
 
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speaking of english , LOL , what on earth is wpulld . I Think you meant would .
No worries i dont hammer one for his or her english , i just show their hyprocrisy , WHEN its needed to be shown of course .
Hypovrisy??
When did I correct your spelling??

Everybody makes a typo once in a while. I specifically pointed to your horrible GRAMMAR. Soooo, how does this make me a "Hypocrite"??

WHEN you , when I and when all stand before GOD , BEFORE CHRIST
on judgement day , YOU wont be condemend for saying wpulled rather than would
anymore than i for my fast english . BUT YOU WILL be condemened
FOR A LIE ,
A FALSE GOSPEL that WHORE sold as inclusive and had told all religoins of earth and of men
THEY ALL serve the same GOD . You need to check out the dialgoue of YA HARLOT . SHE BEEN LYING
for years to these relgions as well as to christendom .
Gee - and I though YOU said that YOU don't condemn anyone in your last post.

Ummmm, WHO'S the hypocrite now . . .
 

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HUH??

That's ALL you DO is to judge and condemn the sould of otheers - in complete violation of the Gospel. You're nothing more than a Pharisee.

Repent and humble yourself instead of misrepresenting Christ . . .
i think you meant SOUL and not sould and others and not otheers . no worries the only reason i bring it up
is cause i know your typing fast like i do . And that is why . but lets not play the hyprocrite over english .
RATHER LETS BIBLE UP for ourselves . or prepare to wail . prepare to wail . I dont want that for you ,
but i cant wave a wand and make you see . ALL i can do is warn . its up to YOU .;
 
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