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soul man

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I try to walk with Jesus, but I've had a lot of problems with boredom in recent years.

Oh yeah! With christianity in general, or just this old life. I don't know that I get bored but I would like to be able to do more maybe. Getting older, and my earlier lifestyle wasn't the easiest on my body. So I have to get healed every now and again :) and take a lot of pills ha. What is boring if you don't mind me asking?
 

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Oh yeah! With christianity in general, or just this old life. I don't know that I get bored but I would like to be able to do more maybe. Getting older, and my earlier lifestyle wasn't the easiest on my body. So I have to get healed every now and again :) and take a lot of pills ha. What is boring if you don't mind me asking?
@soul man When we are exercised prayerfully in the Scriptures and thinking of the needs of others, then imho boredom goes away...
 
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What is the drive in man? I've been wondering that for along time. I had an idea today - was thinking of starting a thread about it. Maybe our drive is that we need honor. So the question arises, "How do we achieve honor?"
Hello @Bob Estey

As I read your entry, into my mind came a verse which I looked up, and found the whole passage so good that I am going to quote it all, it is John 5:30-47, in which the Lord Jesus said:-

'I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge:
and My judgment is just; because I seek not Mine own will,
but the will of the Father which hath sent Me.
If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true.
There is another that beareth witness of Me;
and I know that the witness which He witnesseth of Me is true.

Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
But I receive not testimony from man:
but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
He was a burning and a shining light:
and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
But I have greater witness than that of John:
for the works which the Father hath given Me to finish,
the same works that I do, bear witness of Me, that the Father hath sent Me.

And the Father himself, which hath sent Me, hath borne witness of Me.
Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape.
And ye have not His word abiding in you:
for Whom He hath sent, Him ye believe not.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life:
and they are they which testify of Me.
And ye will not come to Me, that ye might have life.

I receive not honour from men.
But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not:
if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,
and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father:
there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?'


* The highlighted words were those coming into my mind, but I think the whole passage is wonderful, don't you?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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charity

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@@Bob Estey
* This is the honour that we seek isn't it?:-

'Wherein ye greatly rejoice,
though now for a season, if need be,
ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
That the trial of your faith,
being much more precious than of gold that perisheth,
though it be tried with fire,
might be found unto praise and honour and glory
at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
Whom having not seen, ye love;
in Whom, though now ye see Him not,
yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.'

(1Pe 1:6-9)

Thank you
 
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Bob Estey

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Oh yeah! With christianity in general, or just this old life. I don't know that I get bored but I would like to be able to do more maybe. Getting older, and my earlier lifestyle wasn't the easiest on my body. So I have to get healed every now and again :) and take a lot of pills ha. What is boring if you don't mind me asking?
For example, I regularly wake wake up a couple of hours early, can't get back to sleep, and can't find interesting things to think about while I lie there. You might suggest that I stay up later, but I get tired and want to go to bed. You might suggest I get up earlier, but I already get up at 5 am. But there are times in the day I can't find anything I want to do.
 
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Hello @Bob Estey

As I read your entry, into my mind came a verse which I looked up, and found the whole passage so good that I am going to quote it all, it is John 5:30-47, in which the Lord Jesus said:-

'I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge:
and My judgment is just; because I seek not Mine own will,
but the will of the Father which hath sent Me.
If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true.
There is another that beareth witness of Me;
and I know that the witness which He witnesseth of Me is true.

Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
But I receive not testimony from man:
but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
He was a burning and a shining light:
and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
But I have greater witness than that of John:
for the works which the Father hath given Me to finish,
the same works that I do, bear witness of Me, that the Father hath sent Me.

And the Father himself, which hath sent Me, hath borne witness of Me.
Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape.
And ye have not His word abiding in you:
for Whom He hath sent, Him ye believe not.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life:
and they are they which testify of Me.
And ye will not come to Me, that ye might have life.

I receive not honour from men.
But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not:
if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,
and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father:
there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?'


* The highlighted words were those coming into my mind, but I think the whole passage is wonderful, don't you?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
I’ve been quoting John 5:39-40 a lot lately:

[39] You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;
[40] yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40 RSV
 
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charity

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I’ve been quoting John 5:39-40 a lot lately:

[39] You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;
[40] yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40 RSV
'Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill Him,
because He not only had broken the sabbath,
but said also that God was His Father,
making Himself equal with God.'

(Joh 5:18)

Hello @Bob Estey,

Yes, the two verses you have quoted are ones which always cause me to do a little soul searching. For all our 'searching' of the scriptures are vain, if, in searching we do not find Christ: Yes? For the Scriptures are those which speak of Him. :)

Looking back to the verse I have quoted at the beginning of my response (John 5:18), we can see to whom the Lord's words were directed. They were Jewish elders and Pharisees, who sought to find any means possible to find cause to have Christ arrested and brought before the council to stand trial, and be put to death. These were religious men, who did indeed search the Scriptures, and who claimed Abraham to be their Father (John 8:33; John 8:37-40) Though the words of John 8 make it clear that the Lord Jesus Christ knew precisely who their father was, for their thoughts and actions manifested him (John 8:44).

* Thinking of @soul man's OP regarding the two natures in the child of God: and thinking of those men who claimed to have Abraham for their Father, to be his seed, and thereby claiming all the blessings associated with it. The one thing they lacked, according to the words of the Lord, was that His Word had no place in them (John 8:37).

We who have, by God's grace, believed the word of God concerning His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, have received the engrafted word, which is able to save our souls (James 1:21). God's word has entered into us, and has engendered faith within, faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith came by 'hearing' and hearing by 'the word of God'. That is how faith came to us, and that is how faith increases, by reading and believing the word of God. Through the written word, we receive the Living Word, our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the new nature abiding within us, born of the sonship-spirit within. whereby we cry 'Abba, Father'.

Praise His Holy Name! We have His Word abiding in us: For the entrance of His Word brings light; the light of the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Who is our risen and glorified, Saviour, Lord and Head (2 Corinthians 4:6).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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