Rotsen777
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You/I/They know nothing about the specifics of salvation, and how and when it will be granted. What you have posted above is only your opinion, except those quoted verses.
Few are saved.
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Taken
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Your Vague Blanket Accusation.
Your Blanket Opinion.
I posted my Belief.
You simply make accusations, with NO specific counter Belief of your own.
Your Opinion, Your Accusations…are MOOT.
Rotsen777
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amigo de christo
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all who BELEIVE in HIM .
You twisted this to imply all means everyone whether they beleived or not .
SO let me show you what you did in another place where paul also uses the word all .
FOR ALL MEN HAVE NOT FAITH . according to you that mean NO ONE has faith .
Nope it means Not everyone has faith .
Just like JESUS even warned , NOT all WHO CALL ME LORD LORD .....................
You all NEED some alone time with the bible and to be in prayer to GOD for direction and understanding .
Notice it says So also shall all IN CHRIST be made alive . IN CHRIST . those who reject him are not IN HIM padnah .
All those IN CHRIST shall be made alive .
Not all those outside of him . nope they will perish just LIKE HE said they would .
Do take heed to the words IN CHRIST .
amigo de christo
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Verily verily i say unto thee
OH it will b e much worse .
As much as listening to popes , ecumenical ones and all false doctrine is QUITE vexing to my soul .
I aint ignorant enough to say what you just said . Knowledge without wisdom , NOT GOOD .
So allow me to remind us all of something this omitting the severity of GOD and preaching a false goodness of GOD
generation does not know .
For throughout all ages , many christains have bled , have even been lit on fire and burned alive for the faith .
Have had backs opened wide by stripes , been stoned and persecuted .
And now a word
SEEING JUDGMENT always begins at the house of GOD , thus all of this was allowed to come upon true beleivers
I SHUDDER to think of what will come upon those who obeyed not the gospel of our LORD .
AS PE TER WELL KNEW THIS and said the same .
As did paul . For if a man could be put to death under the law by t wo or three witnesses
HOW MUCH SORER a punishment awaits those WHO TROD THE SON UNDER FOOT .
OH such a place of torment for the rejector of Christ does exist .
And far worse a torment awaits those
than that which man was allowed to do to the sheep . FAR WORSE .
and before you think about omitting the lake of fire , or teaching this or that about it
OPEN BIBLE and read revelation , THEN HEED the warning about the one who adds too or takes from
the words in THAT BOOK . JESUS PREACHING T IME , and GET in that BIBLE to learn .
amigo de christo
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Ask rather this
IS NOT the very GOD inspired words of TRUTH in that BIBLE .
And for what cause did Christ come into the world .
For this reason was i born and for this cause came i into the world
TO TESTIFY OF THE TRUTH .
SO here is the question .
WHO YA THINK gonna fair far better
THOSE WHO barely read it and sat under men who twisted it and decieved them
OR THE SHEEP who FOLLOWED CHRIST and loved to read such lovely words
by which they were made wise UNTO salvation through faith IN JESUS CHRIST .
cause LOOK OUT folks
men , through their own doctrines have created another jesus and another gospel .
AND THAT ONE cannot save .
THUS OPEN THAT BIBLE and LEARN the WORDS of the TRUE CHRIST and later the real apostels
AND then compare any other who speaks AGAINST THEIR WORDS .
AND you will soon see , WE GOT US MANY DECIEVERS IN THE HOUSE known as christendom .
NOW OPEN bible , read and enjoy bible , and stay in prayer and in the scrips for to learn and be reminded
JESUS has the sheep . AND BELIEVE me when i say , HE aint the one
trying to get us away f rom the bible . NO , THAT BE FALSE MEN who lie in wait to decieve .
Taken
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My belief and confessED agreement IN, OF and TO Gods Word HAS ALREADY “savED my soul AND quickenED my spirit.
Glory to God,
Taken
amigo de christo
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wanna hear something real scary for those who do such a thing .
Cause you right JESUS did speak about such a place .
SO here is the scary ,
If one says such a place does not exist , WHO THEN DO THEY CALL A LIAR .
And if one calls JESUS a liar
THEY DO CALL GOD A LIAR . i would for sure and for certain say , WE GOTS problems in the house
called christendom .
Remember when GOD told adam that in the day ye eat thereof ye shall sure Die .
Rmember who came along and convinced eve, surely YE shall NOT DIE .
Someone is lying to this people and doing all to make void What JESUS taught . and WHO ya think that one is .
IF ya said the serepent WHO DID this to eve, OH YOU ARE RIGHT my friend .
amigo de christo
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Allow some parting words .
Long ago in the time that JESUS the CHRIST walked the earth
His desciples asked him in amazment
LORD who then can be saved .
AND THIS SAVOIR said with MAN this is impossible but NOT WITH GOD .
Now some years later the jailor asked paul and silas a question .
Sirs what MUST I DO to BE SAVED
and their response was , BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and YE SHALL b e saved .
And later in a letter of pauls to the church in corinth
PUAL would make real clear AS TO HOW GOD CHOSE TO SAVE the world .
By the preaching of the gospel to save those who ...................wait for it ........................BELIEVE .
SO its real simple really .
NONE ARE GOOD , NONE ARE RIGHTEOUS , BUT GOD and thus of COURSE HIS CHRIST .
And that no man or woman can save themselves APART F ROM FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
Thus the summation is , ALL NEED JESUS CHRIST and Its high time the church returned
to THE Preaching of JESUS CHRIST with the dire reminder of The necessity to beleieve oN HIM or perish .
And to get this people back into the scriptures
by which they would be made wise unto salvation THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST .
pretty simple if ya ask me .
amigo de christo
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The SPIRIT reveals and testifies OF JESUS CHRIST .
That IS WHO the FATHER DRAWS ONE TOO . and ITS bY THE SON the FATHER IS REVEALED .
HE is the ONLY WAY to the FATHER and none can come to the FATHER but by HIM .
And the sheep hear his voice .
For this cause was i born and for this reason came i into the world
TO TESTIFY of THE TRUTH and all who are of the TRUTH come TO ME .
OH its JESUS preaching t ime in the building and in the building it be JESUS PREACHING TIME .
For i promise us all one thing
MAN CANNOT SAVE HIMSELF , thus all other religoins are false and are of men not GOD .
FOR GOD TESTIFIES ON THE SON , not budda , not muhammed , not new age or any other ism .
And the sheep DO HEAR HIS VOICE and have RECIEVED HIS TESTIMONY .
for the sheep , HE DOES HAVE and they do follow him . and a st rangers voice
THEY AINT A HEEDING .
amigo de christo
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notice he said they know not the specifics of salvation and YET apparently it is HE who knows not the SPECIFICS of salvation .
FOR THERE IS NO OTHER NAME GIVEN UNDER HEAVEN whereby we may be saved .
FOR salvation , ONE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM . that aint what this other fellow is a saying .
They falsely accuse us of doing what THEY THEMSELVES be doing .
THE SPECIFICS OF SALVATION . RESTS IN and ON , FAITH IN JESUS THE GLORIOUS RISEN CHRIST .
pretty simple if ya ask me . Neither is there SALVATION in any other .
amigo de christo
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those who have recieved the TESTIMONY of GOD have set to their seal , that GOD IS TRUE .
SEALED by FAITH IN HIM , BY THE SPIRIT of GOD given them .
people need a fast return to the scriptures .
Taken
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To become SAVED requires True Heartful Belief … that MUST be Maintained until the moment of Bodily Death.
(Thus the Warning to Endure (Believing) to the End (of your own bodily Death.)
Because…Salvation IS Literally Given… AFTER a Body (of a true Heartful Believer) IS Accounted Dead.
Once Saved (After Bodily Dying IN true Heartful Belief) the Salvation (Saving), remains Forever.
Thus the acronym meaning (OSAS).
Glory to God,
Taken
amigo de christo
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HERE IS WHO says GOD IS TRUE . THOSE WHO RECIEVE HIS TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST THE SON .
HERE is who calls GOD a LIAR , he who BELIEVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON .
pretty simple if ya ask me . AND ITS also pretty darn clear A lot of christendom is in dire trouble
and being swept away on a magic carpet ride of inclusive universalism .
That carpet ride dont end good either .
HERE is who calls GOD a LIAR , he who BELIEVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON .
pretty simple if ya ask me . AND ITS also pretty darn clear A lot of christendom is in dire trouble
and being swept away on a magic carpet ride of inclusive universalism .
That carpet ride dont end good either .
amigo de christo
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Look real closely at your first line again . SPOT ON ABSOLUTELY CORRECT my friend .
And thus any that cometh out , NEVER were of us .
AND its also why i remind the church about this MAINTAINING FAITH , BELEIF ON HIM to the end .
same as did JESUS and later paul and jude and others .
YOU RIGHT my friend . IT ALL BOILS DOWN to FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS , TO BELEIVE ON HE WHOM GOD DID SEND
and let none be moved away from our hope IN HIM , faith in HIM .
Look at what john told the church .
IF that which ye have recieved shall REMAIIN IN YOU
THEN YOU SHALL CONTINUE IN THE SON . Real s imple is ya ask me .
WE BELIEVE ON HIM , WE Remind all to do the same .
AND BY HIS SPIRIT we never give false hope to any . SAY , LIKE ecumeincal interfatih did WHEN IT LIED
to all the false religoins and made VOID to them all the DIRE NECESSITY to repent and BELEIVE ON JESUS to be saved .
THAT my friend is why i do as did john . I warn a gainst THE SEDUCERS who do teh work of an anti christ .
I am not the enemy of humanity , nor the hater of GOD that many even in wool try and make me out to be .
I SIMPLY POINT to NO OTHER THAN JESUS THE CHRIST with THE DIRE REMINDER of THE DIRE NEED
to BELEIVE ON HIM or perish . but friend that has made me out to seem as a hater to many .
amigo de christo
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To the trenches one and all , we has us a g opsel to defend .
THE LORD is with the sheep . e
Taken
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You speak of a NAME… Jesus…
Yet THAT Name …Jesus was only Revealed 2,000+ years ago.
That revealing …of The Name JESUS…Did not Apply for the First 4,000 Years, Yet men Were Saved.
Even for the past 2,000 years, Men who do Believe Jesus Existed, but do Not Believe He was/Is the Christ … Have been, Shall be Saved… BY God.
God the Father Saves Whom He Wills.
Jesus the Son Saves whom God gave Him to Save.
Rom 9:
[14] What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
[15] For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
[16] So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
John 10:
[27] My (Jesus) sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me…(Jesus)
[28] And I (Jesus) give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[29] My Father, (God)which gave them me, (Jesus) is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Not every man was given to Jesus to Save.
Some men are Saved by God.
They saved BY Jesus…
Jesus Redeems (Rapture)
Jesus Resurrects, Bodys Glorified,
They Saved BY God….
God Redeems ( First Resurrection )
First Resurrection is a MASS end of days Resurrection, of Raising UP glorified bodys of the Body’s God Saved.
Resurrections of the dead, to resume living in their natural bodies has occurred for centuries.
Taken
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The Warning to Believe to the end Applies to “UN-Committed” Believers.
Those (Already Committed)… TO Jesus…
Require no warning…
They ARE KEPT Forever IN Belief …
No.
By the POWER of God IN THEM…
Yes!
Glory to God,
Taken
amigo de christo
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Who were saved . they who had FAITH .
having faith in who , IN GOD .
And yes the arrival of THE CHRIST had not yet came .
BUT nigh two thousand years ago HE DID .
NOW the NAME has been made known and yet many still cling to the religion of satan .
And what religoin is that , ALL OTHER RELIGOINS .
GOD testified on ONLY the SON . ecumeinalism intefaith testifies that ALL religoins serving the same GOD differently .
EKI LIES TO US ALL . That mother of all harlots LIES TO ALL .
and sheep dont heed that harlots mouth .
KEEP that in mind . All liars , all unbeleivers , all who loved a made a lie ,
all who used Jesus name to support their sin or anyones elses sin
and or their religoin GONNA ROAST ALIVE in the lake of fire. LEST THEY REPENT .
SO its wh y i do warn and its why i do remind and its why i expose that harlot and point only TO CHRIST JESUS .
BECAUSE i DO NOT DESIRE their death and destruction , but rather good for them . OH YEAH
ITS JESUS preaching time in the building .
And if this makes me seem as a hater to you or anyone else
THEN REMEMBER THIS , I ONLY POINTED TO JESUS and never once gave out false hope
NOR did i ever once use the name of JESUS to support a sin . OUR RAINBOW COALTION TRAIN , cannot cliam THE SAME .
And their WELL favored ecumeincal interfaith harlot CANNOT E ITHER . THEY DENIED HIM .
And dear dear friend , THAT WONT BODE WELL for them , maybe in this life , BUT NOT ON JUDGMENT DAY .
OH NOT ON THE DAY O FTHE LORD . th ey gonna wail . and a gain i didnt desire that for them
SO I DID PREACH JESUS . I sure could use some help too .
