Flat Earth Theory

[David in NJ]

A globe has circles. The equator is a circle. The Hebrew word can mean "circuit", so it could refer to the orbit of the earth. Besides, it is a symbolic verse, because God is spirit and does not literally sit anywhere. The verse isn't teaching us the shape of the earth.

Please respond to Post 2,357

 

[TLHKAJ]

A globe has circles.

And yet, scripture states God sits about THE circle ...not "circles" as in many circles.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The Hebrew word can mean "circuit", so it could refer to the orbit of the earth.

Nope. You're applying something to the earth that God's Word applies to the sun. The sun has a circuit. The earth has foundations. It stands still and doesn't move ...GOD Himself said so. Who will you believe?

 

[PeterAndroz]

Btw ...this may be true on paper or on a screen. But you can see that the circle is a circle and the ball is a ball. And God isn't confused about how He created the earth or the words He used to describe His creation.

Using the 'Biblical wisdom & knowledge' that you obviously have in copious amounts have that I apparently lack
List the verses that teach :-
Why gravity is noticeably stronger at the North Pole than the equator
Why the equator can see many of the stars that the North Pole can't
Why some Bible believers claim the sun is only approx 3000 miles away & approx 30 miles in diameter
..
Just the verses TL, can you do that ?
If not then spend your time with others :)

 

[PeterAndroz]

Good Morning,

i AGREE with your assessment.

Was God confused when He sat above the circle of the earth = thus calling it a circle and not a ball???

Is this a ball or a circular plate with a painting ?

 

[doctrox]

Here are a few passages, which show that it is God alone who is "the light of the world", while Satan is the ruler of darkness, of this world, and of the night:

• Psalm 36:9: "For with you is the fountain of life; in your light we see light."
• 1 John 1:5: "God is light; in him there is no darkness at all."
• Acts 26:18: To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
• John 8:12: "I am the light of the world.

Thanks for posting some scripture, but yours is a non sequitur...

So...if that is any indication of the rest of your post--it's not good.

The scriptural truth remains: the moon has its own light...

...and so do I:

In Matthew 5, v. 14, Jesus tells his disciples, "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid."

In v. 16, believers are instructed to let their light shine so others see their good works and glorify God.

 

[Gottservant]

The Earth is flat when you stand on the Earth - the same way the Sun is flat when you stand on the Sun.

If every great celestial object is flat when you stand on it, what is meant by "flat"? Do astronauts not see the horizon of the moon, simply because it is orbiting the Earth orbiting the Sun?

Where do horizons come from, if we should be seeing a sphere instead of them?

 

[doctrox]

Do astronauts not see the horizon of the moon...

There are many things astro-nots do not do (and do not see).

From Freemasonry's Scottish Rite Blog, here are several Freemason astro-nots.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Using the 'Biblical wisdom & knowledge' that you obviously have in copious amounts have that I apparently lack
List the verses that teach :-
Why gravity is noticeably stronger at the North Pole than the equator
Why the equator can see many of the stars that the North Pole can't
Why some Bible believers claim the sun is only approx 3000 miles away & approx 30 miles in diameter
..
Just the verses TL, can you do that ?
If not then spend your time with others :)

I'll spend my time with who God directs me.

You still have not answered my question.

 

[PeterAndroz]

I'll spend my time with who God directs me.

You still have not answered my question.

and what are the verses that teach :-

Why gravity is noticeably stronger at the North Pole than the equator
Why the equator can see many of the stars that the North Pole can't
Why some Bible believers claim the sun is only approx 3000 miles away & approx 30 miles in diameter

No rush T, take your time :)

 

[ScottA]

Thanks for posting some scripture, but yours is a non sequitur...


The scriptural truth remains: the moon has its own light...

...and so do I:

In Matthew 5, v. 14, Jesus tells his disciples, "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid."

In v. 16, believers are instructed to let their light shine so others see their good works and glorify God.

You not seeing or hearing, only notes your own shortfall of all that is true. The words are spirit and only given precept upon precept...and you have only chosen part, and by that measure it is measured back to you. That's how this works, how God works.

I have told you the truth.

 

[David Lamb]

Please respond to Post 2,357

Post 2357 asks where the circle is on a globe earth. I have already responded to that. First, the word translated "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is also translated "circuit" and "compass" in other verses. It could there fore be referring to the orbit of the earth. Second, globes do have circles. The equator is a circle. Thirdly, as God is a spiritual Being, He does not literally sit anywhere Isaiah 40:22 and indeed that whole passage includes much symbolism. For instance, the passage speaks of princes and judges being sown, planted and taking root in the earth,

 

[David Lamb]

The Psalmist said that he would not be moved: the sun. The sun has a circuit. The earth has foundations. It stands still and doesn't move ...GOD Himself said so. Who will you believe?

There are plenty of verses that say that the earth shall not be moved, but none, as far as I aware, that say that the earth does not move. When I walk into town to go shopping, I am moving. If a strong man picked me up and carried me into town, I would be moved. The Psalmist said that he would not be moved:

NKJV Psa 62:6 He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my defense; I shall not be moved.

It would be ridiculous to imagine that he meant that he would remain motionless for the rest of his life. Being moved and moving are not the same thing. The first is passive, the second active.

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[David in NJ]

Post 2357 asks where the circle is on a globe earth. I have already responded to that. First, the word translated "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is also translated "circuit" and "compass" in other verses. It could there fore be referring to the orbit of the earth. Second, globes do have circles. The equator is a circle. Thirdly, as God is a spiritual Being, He does not literally sit anywhere Isaiah 40:22 and indeed that whole passage includes much symbolism. For instance, the passage speaks of princes and judges being sown, planted and taking root in the earth,

VERY good points = and i assessed as much as well.

Here is the MAIN POINT of TRUTH = GOD Speaks TRUTH and HE did not use the Hebrew word for ball/sphere.

When you change God's words to fit your belief system, you come to error, which is the Devil's playground.

You have unbelief towards Genesis, the Firmament, WATER, the moon is it's own light, the sun moon stars move over the earth.

On this subject, you will hear these same words from the LORD when you get to heaven, especially = WATER
By God's Design WATER is liquid and always seeks it's own level and CANNOT curve around a sphere as it MUST be contained because WATER CANNOT flow uphill. Which is why we have WATER FALLS and LAND above and below that contains the WATER.

Furthermore, the LORD Jesus Christ confirmed Genesis in His Gospel.

 

[David Lamb]

VERY good points = and i assessed as much as well.

Here is the MAIN POINT of TRUTH = GOD Speaks TRUTH and HE did not use the Hebrew word for ball/sphere.

I never claimed that God used the word for a ball or sphere. My point was that the verse in question does not teach the shape of the earth. The Hebrew word used can mean circle, circuit or compass.

When you change God's words to fit your belief system, you come to error, which is the Devil's playground.

What words have I changed?

You have unbelief towards Genesis, the Firmament, WATER, the moon is it's own light, the sun moon stars move over the earth.

I do believe Genesis. The firmament is not some solid dome over the earth. If it was, Genesis wouldn't say that birds fly in the firmament:

Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

 

[David in NJ]

I never claimed that God used the word for a ball or sphere. My point was that the verse in question does not teach the shape of the earth. The Hebrew word used can mean circle, circuit or compass.

But you are in fact attempting to teach the earth is a ball/sphere from NASA and then using Isaiah 40:22 to justify.

 

[David Lamb]

But you are in fact attempting to teach the earth is a ball/sphere from NASA and then using Isaiah 40:22 to justify.

How do you work that out? I am not using any verse in Scripture to justify my belief about the shape of the earth, because I do not know of any verse that actually teaches the earth's shape. People believe in a globe earth hundreds of years before NASA. Let's get things in perspective. When the jailer at Philippi asked the apostles how he could be saved, there reply was, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Ch0rist and you will be saved." (Acts 16:31). They didn't add, "...and make sure that you believe that the earth is flat." My salvation depends entirely on the completed work of Jesus Christ, not on what I believe the shape of the earth to be.

 

[David in NJ]

How do you work that out? I am not using any verse in Scripture to justify my belief about the shape of the earth, because I do not know of any verse that actually teaches the earth's shape. People believe in a globe earth hundreds of years before NASA. Let's get things in perspective.

AGREE = "Let's get things in perspective" = from God's POV Above the earth

NASA pov dates all the way back to Egypt and Babylon

Whereas we who are in Christ follow God's POV that dates all the way back to Genesis/Creation.

When the jailer at Philippi asked the apostles how he could be saved, there reply was, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Ch0rist and you will be saved." (Acts 16:31). They didn't add, "...and make sure that you believe that the earth is flat." My salvation depends entirely on the completed work of Jesus Christ, not on what I believe the shape of the earth to be.

If you believe this, then stop mocking God's words and those who trust Him/Genesis.

You jump back and forth from Acts 16:31 back to Egypt/Babylonian/NASA teachings of Creation/earth/sun, moon, stars

Are you going to continue in unbelief of the Physical Law that God created with WATER???

Are you going to continue promoting the NASA/Babylonian lie that WATER/huge oceans can resist being unmoved and fully contained on a globe/ball while spinning at 1,000mph???

That is scientifically and factually impossible on the earth that GOD Created.

 

[David Lamb]

AGREE = "Let's get thing sin perspectice" = from God's POV Above the earth

NASA pov dates all the way back to Egypt and Babylon

Whereas we who are in Christ follow God's POV that dates all the way back to Genesis/Creation.


If you believe this, then stop mocking God's words and those who trust Him/Genesis.

You jump back and forth from Acts 16:31 back to Egypt/Babylonian/NASA teachings of Creation/earth/sun, moon, stars

Are you going to continue in unbelief of the Physical Law that God created with WATER???

Are you going to continue promoting the NASA/Babylonian lie that WATER/huge oceans can resist being unmoved and fully contained on a globe/ball while spinning at 1,000mph???

That is scientifically and factually impossible on the earth that GOD Created.

You are now making accusations. I am not mocking God. Far be such a thing from me! If that is the way this discussion is going, I will leave it there.