Free Will and God’s Sovereignty

[MatthewG]

That still did not answer my question, though @Behold.

Are you in belief that God wraths is abiding on people today? Do you believe its all people, or just the jewish people who put jesus christ to death?

After this ill just let it go. Thank you for your time and response as im just curious.


I dont believe Gods wrath (it was only towards Israel alone) abides today and the cup is empty.View attachment 32753

Concerning the time of the gentiles, they were ushered in by the drop of the holy spirit when the last days had come upon the land in Acts chapter 2?

But that doesnt mean they were ushered into Gods wrath. That is seems impossible to impose such a thing. As the wrath abided towards the whore who disowned God. Isreael who became spriitually egypt.

Now ill just let it go and let everyone think for themselves, may God guide.

 

[Behold]

Are you in belief that God wraths is abiding on people today?

John 3:36

describes the REASON the Wrath of God that REMAINS on unbelievers.

"""""Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God REMAINS on him.""""


1.) "whosoever does not". 2.) "obey the son"....3.) "shall not see life"

How do you obey the Son?

"ALL that believe in me""


What is to not see life?

Jesus said that if you believe in Him, He gives to you ETERNAL LIFE

If He does not give Eternal Life to you, then you dont have "life".... = "Shall not see Life"..

 

[MatthewG]

Thats not explaining anything to me personally but it suits your personal stance @Behold. Thank you for your response as your entitled to freely say and express your viewpoints. Have a good day, im just gonna go on and walk away.

 

[Pierac]

Everyone who is this..

Jesus said....>"You are of YOUR FATHER, THE DEVIL, and the lusts of.....Your FATHER, you will do".

Now, if you think that person is going to exit for eternity, with the Body of Christ in HEAVEN with GOD...., then you are in for a shock after you die....
Tho you do have the Free Will right to believe that DUNG, right now.........as millions of Universalist's do, and other Fools as well.


Now who is that Son of the Devil?

Its every unbeliever, who is not born again.

Its this one...

"""""whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God REMAINS on them".


= REMAINS on who? = "You are of YOUR FATHER...the Devil".

Thats a CHRIST REJECTOR< never born again.

= """"Hell is made for the DEVIL and His ANGELS"""", and the Children of the Devil, as defined by JESUS... that i just showed you.

They are not going to go to Heaven and exit with the Born Again Christians.

There are no born again in Hell.
There are no Christ Rejectors, never born again, in Heaven.

Satan is not going to Heaven.
His Angels are not going to Heaven
His SONS, are not going to Heaven.


"be not deceived".... READER

A.) =Thousand of fhese never born again "Son's of the DEVIL" went to hell this very DAY.

So.... Your saying this is what God told Adam.... ?

You followers of the traditons of men.... Your comments look sooo Stupid when Genesis...explains the fall of man....

So according to YOU.... Jesus is now burning in hell fire for your sins... to pay the price... OR Did he just have to die.... Read the Bible... Dude!!


Think before you post...

 

[Pierac]

Everyone who is this..

Jesus said....>"You are of YOUR FATHER, THE DEVIL, and the lusts of.....Your FATHER, you will do".

Now, if you think that person is going to exit for eternity, with the Body of Christ in HEAVEN with GOD...., then you are in for a shock after you die....
Tho you do have the Free Will right to believe that DUNG, right now.........as millions of Universalist's do, and other Fools as well.


Now who is that Son of the Devil?

Its every unbeliever, who is not born again.

Its this one...

"""""whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God REMAINS on them".


= REMAINS on who? = "You are of YOUR FATHER...the Devil".

Thats a CHRIST REJECTOR< never born again.

= """"Hell is made for the DEVIL and His ANGELS"""", and the Children of the Devil, as defined by JESUS... that i just showed you.

They are not going to go to Heaven and exit with the Born Again Christians.

There are no born again in Hell.
There are no Christ Rejectors, never born again, in Heaven.

Satan is not going to Heaven.
His Angels are not going to Heaven
His SONS, are not going to Heaven.


"be not deceived".... READER

A.) =Thousand of fhese never born again "Son's of the DEVIL" went to hell this very DAY.

All Humans who have ever lived and died are in biblical Hell.... Biblical Hell is the Grave my friend.... The word Hell in your Bible translates into Grave!!! Your thinking about the Greek concept of Hell...

This verse was written many many years after countless Christans have died.... Including Stephen
Act 7:59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!"
Act 7:60 Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" Having said this, he fell asleep.
Now did Stephen fall asleep and ascended to heaven ... or did he Die and go to Hell (Grave)?

What saith the scriptures

Joh 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.

Now John must have been dumb as a box of Rocks to make such a statement that goes against your understanding of what really happens... when Christians die.....

The other Paul warned us about you...
Net Bible 2Ti 2:18 They have strayed from the truth by saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are undermining some people's faith.

Study Harder,
Paul

 

[MatthewG]

Concerning believers that had passed;

Since the victory of Christ, all have been raising again since then;

There is an outside of the kingdom and inside;

Hell, death, sin, satan and his angels, false prophet, and the beast have all been done away with.

“And I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, that ye may not sorrow, as also the rest who have not hope, for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, so also God those asleep through Jesus he will bring with him, for this to you we say in the word of the Lord, that we who are living — who do remain over to the presence of the Lord — may not precede those asleep, because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we who are living, who are remaining over, together with them shall be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in air, and so always with the Lord we shall be; so, then, comfort ye one another in these words.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4‬:‭13‬-‭18‬ ‭YLT98‬‬

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 And I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, that ye may not sorrow, as also the rest who have not hope, for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, s | Young's Literal Transla

And I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, that ye may not sorrow, as also the rest who have not hope, for if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, s

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