I agree.... Calvinism is Garbage... But scripture is clear.... You need to remove Heaven/Hell and replace it with the 1000 year coming Kingdom, in which Jesus will be King... The Elect are not chosen for heaven... but the coming kingdom....That's CALVINISM.
That is "you dont have freewill", so, God has to choose you.
What you just did, was what Calvin did...You defined "foreknowledge" as "predestined".
See, its true that God knows who is going to trust in Christ, just as God knows the Cross is a universal offer ALL = to come and be saved.
He does not choose you to come....>He offers Salvation for you to choose.
See, if you are forced to have faith, then its not faith, as you didnt choose to believe.
"BELIEVING" is how you are chosen, and God knows who will believe.
Here is what you dont understand, NetChaplin, nor did Calvin.
If God chooses you to be saved, then that means that those who are not saved were not Chosen to be so.
And that is NOT THEIR FAULT.
So, God is not JUST, if He wont choose you to believe, and then you end up in Hell for being a Christ Rejector, only because you are not one of the "pre-destined".
So, that GARBAGE Theology, is CALVINISM, and its demonic, its of the devil, and its infectiously deceiving, as that is how the Devil designed it.
Let's review...
Net Bible Eph 1:11 In Christ28 we too have been claimed as God's own possession,29(G2820) since we were predestined (G4309) according to the one purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will
29 tn Grk "we were appointed by lot." The notion of the verb κληρόω (klēroō) in the OT was to "appoint a portion by lot" (the more frequent cognate verb κληρονομέω [klēronomeō] meant "obtain a portion by lot"). In the passive, as here, the idea is that "we were appointed [as a portion] by lot" (BDAG 548 s.v. κληρόω 1). The words "God's own" have been supplied in the translation to clarify this sense of the verb. An alternative interpretation is that believers receive a portion as an inheritance: "In Christ we too have been appointed a portion of the inheritance." See H. W. Hoehner, Ephesians, 226-27, for discussion on this interpretive issue.
Word study
G2820
κληρόω
klēróō; contracted klērṓ, fut. klērṓsō, from klḗros (G2819), a lot. To cast lots, determine by lot, i.e., to determine something, choose someone. In Eph_1:11, it means, "in whom the lot has fallen upon us also, as foreordained thereto . . . to be" (a.t.). The idea expressed here is that Christians have become heirs of God due to the fact that God predestined them according to His purpose. In a manner of speaking, the "lot" fell to believers not by chance but solely because of the gracious and sovereign decision of God- Almighty to select them to be His heirs.
Deriv.: prosklēróō (G4345), to give or assign by lot.
Now listen to Jesus....
NASB Joh 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws(66) (DRAGS) him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
66 tn Or "attracts him," or "pulls him." The word is used of pulling or dragging, often by force. It is even used once of magnetic attraction (A. Oepke, TDNT 2:503).
again...
NASB Joh 6:65 And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."
John does not hold back with his recordings of Jesus...
NASB Joh 17:2 even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.
NASB Mat 22:14 "For many are called, but few are chosen."
NASB Mar 4:11 And he said to them, "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, 12 so that indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn and be forgiven."
What did Paul teach you....
1Co 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.
NASB Col 3:12 So, as those who have been chosen of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience;
NASB 2 Th 2:13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.
Let's end with the acts of the Apostles...
NASB Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
CEV Act 13:48 This message made the Gentiles glad, and they praised what they had heard about the Lord. Everyone who had been chosen for eternal life then put their faith in the Lord.
Do not fear.....
1Ti 4:9 The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. 11 Command and teach these things.
1Ti 2:3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires2309 all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a
ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.
Note: “desires2309” In 1 Titus 2:4 is assigned Strong’s number 2309 θέλω / ἐθέλω thelō / ethelō Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon Definition: 1) to will, have in mind, intend
What does Scripture tell us about God's will???
NASB Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure';
Was Jesus lifted up from the earth???
Joh 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw1670 all men to Myself."
Note: “draw1670 “ in John 12:32 is assigned Strong’s number 1670
ἑλκύω / ἕλκω helkuō / helkō Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon Definition: 1) to draw, drag off.
Do you not know....
Rom 11:32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.
1Co 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. for He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death. For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
Calvinism really is Garbage.... As Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Thus...the wage of sin has been paid in Full.... Jesus is not burning for eternity for your sins... If that's the wage for sin you think is needed... Your in trouble!!!
God is Love..... and has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.
Peace