Fundamentalist Christianity is fear-based?

[amigo de christo]

You start from a faulty beginning and end with terrible conclusions.

Yes morality is objective. People will simply draw the line between what they are willing to call subjective.

But it matters not a whit what men say. It is the word of God that is a final arbiter of all matters.

For you , you must honestly and sincerely answer this question. whom do you say Jesus is?

Jesus declared He is THE Way, THE Truth and THE Life and that no man may come to the Father except through Him. Either that statement is true or it is false. If you literally believe it to be false, then of course you would probably reject the Bible as absolute authority for a persons life.

If you believe it could be true- then you must get to know who this Jesus is.

Men will always be imperfect and denominations will always be because people are frail and imperfect. YOu must take the Scripture and find teh church that matches as best the commands of the New TEstament Epistles.

and marvel not if the world hates you or thinks we are crazy , IT DID the same to CHRIST JESUS . CLING TO THE BIBLE
and let us learn Christ and all sound doctrine well . Fearing not man or what he can do .

 

[Apache1]

FEAR, like most passages and “particular” words in Scripture have DUEL meanings.
Duel meanings, meaning ONE according to mans Understanding, ONE according to Gods Understanding.

FEAR, according to man, means to BE AFRAID.
FEAR, according to God, means EXALTED REVERENCE.

* Adults teach the young (newbies), to BE AFRAID of the consequences of Disbelief.
* The Young that grow, continue learning, mature, Learn FEAR of the Lord meaning to Acknowledge His Holiness and EXALT Hi REVERENCE.
* The Young that grow, but FAIL to mature, REMAIN with a child’s understanding of FEAR, (AFRAID), and often resent and reject a God who wants them to BE AFRAID of Him.

Another example of a “particular” word with DUEL meaning IS; DEATH.
Death according to man; is bodily life ceases being alive.
Death according to God; is a body, soul, spirit of man....bodily alive or not;
That is Against God, IS DEAD.
** If a mans body is Against God, the whole man is Against God.
** If a mans soul is Against God, the whole man is Against God.
** if a mans spirit is Against God, the whole man is Against God.

Gods OFFERING, by, through, of Christ Jesus, is for ANY freely, agreeable and willing man WHO DESIRES to overcome being AGAINST God....Gods Offering Has “MADE” a “WAY”, for that mans DESIRE to become Accomplish-ED...
WHILE the man IS Alive IN his Body.

Scripture Teaches....God CREATED and MADE man-kind.
Scripture Teaches....God gave to every SEED, its own Body.
Scripture Teaches...CREATION, is Gods Works, MAKING, is Gods Works.
Scripture Teaches...PROCREATION, is Mans Works, MAKING, is Gods Works.

Point being....Regardless of WHAT a man has “procreated”....God RETAINS His POWER to “MAKE” that Pro-Created man-kind of being, WHATEVER that individual Pro-Created being DESIRES.

God IS JUST...and Faithful...

A Pro-Created Man-KIND of Being that “DESIRES” to BE WITH God, God will “MAKE” that Desire manifested.
A Pro-Created Man-KIND of Being that “DESIRES” to BE WITHOUT God, God will “MAKE” that Desire manifested.

JUSTICE...every man WILL receive his hearts Desire.
FAITHFULNESS...God WILL Make Sure every mans hearts Desire is manifested.

Glory to God,
Taken

What about anyone who doesn’t care about the whole God/Satan thing and just wants to leave this planet to explore the universe

 

[amigo de christo]

Well that is depressing . for the end of that mindset is the lake of fire . As for me and the lambs a wonderful home awaits .

 

[Taken]

What about anyone who doesn’t care about the whole God/Satan thing and just wants to leave this planet to explore the universe

Freewill applies to everyone.
There are people who have no thought, consideration or care about important things, including God. No need to be troubled. God is Just, reject Him He will oblige your desires and reject you.

Highly doubt you will be able to meet your desires of exploring the universe without God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

and marvel not if the world hates you or thinks we are crazy , IT DID the same to CHRIST JESUS . CLING TO THE BIBLE
and let us learn Christ and all sound doctrine well . Fearing not man or what he can do .

Man can kill a mans life (blood), but can not kill a mans soul (Gods Breath of life) and can not kill a mans quickened spirit (Gods Seed of Life)....

No matter, Blood life, is temporary and all mortal Blood Life Shall cease...
and saints (glorified body’s, saved souls and quickened spirits shall live forever with the Lord God Almighty.)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Apache1]

Freewill applies to everyone.
There are people who have no thought, consideration or care about important things, including God. No need to be troubled. God is Just, reject Him He will oblige your desires and reject you.

Highly doubt you will be able to meet your desires of exploring the universe without God.

Glory to God,
Taken

Who said anything about rejecting God? I just don’t understand the point in putting billions of us in this limited circle of life with so many seemingly irrelevant things and somehow that counts as a “choice” between two beings we have never met

 

[Taken]

Who said anything about rejecting God? I just don’t understand the point in putting billions of us in this limited circle of life with so many seemingly irrelevant things and somehow that counts as a “choice” between two beings we have never met

Gods WAY is simple. If you are NOT with Him, by default you ARE AGAINST Him.
(Matt 12:30 / Luke 11:23)

It is not a choice “Between” two beings.
It is a choice of choosing the Lord God or choosing to reject the “ONE”, who is mans creator and maker.
Men WHO are Converted IN Christ Jesus, Have MET God and Have an established Relationship With God, and such a man merely WAITS to SEE Him, “as He is”...ie Spirit.

You have expressed that is of irrelevant importance to you and you have NOT Met Him, which stands to reason you are Not with Him.
No pressure, No dragging you to Conversion, No force to Convert...
That’s the beauty of a mans Free-WILL.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Who said anything about rejecting God? I just don’t understand the point in putting billions of us in this limited circle of life with so many seemingly irrelevant things and somehow that counts as a “choice” between two beings we have never met

Everyone is born "lost" by default. As Paul wrote in Ephesians we are by nature the children of wrath! It is a question of seeking to answer the question of whether Jesus is who He says He is! He made HImself the only Savior of mankind and will give it freely to whomever asks.

YOU must sxearch for yourself to find HIm, for He can be found if you wish to find HIm.

 

[Apache1]

Really

I suggest you think it through

How could an almighty all knowing God possibly be threatened by any of us. We’re That’s the major problem with the whole “rebellion” theory.

 

[Apache1]

Everyone is born "lost" by default. As Paul wrote in Ephesians we are by nature the children of wrath! It is a question of seeking to answer the question of whether Jesus is who He says He is! He made HImself the only Savior of mankind and will give it freely to whomever asks.

YOU must sxearch for yourself to find HIm, for He can be found if you wish to find HIm.

Yeah I reject that ridiculous unjust idea that we are all filthy lost evil creatures deserving of death.

 

[bbyrd009]

Yeah I reject that ridiculous unjust idea that we are all filthy lost evil creatures deserving of death.

right? But there is a way to get that, that is not religious, fwiw

Really

I suggest you think it through

How could an almighty all knowing God possibly be threatened by any of us. We’re That’s the major problem with the whole “rebellion” theory.

well, you might (stop asking religious ppl, whom Jesus Himself clowned, and) see that an analogy is being made, and that there is a sense in which you rebelled, when you realized that you could lie or otherwise serve yourself at the expense of others. Note that, contrary to most religious ppls beliefs, Yah will still seek you out even after you have rebelled

 

[bbyrd009]

Everyone is born "lost" by default. As Paul wrote in Ephesians we are by nature the children of wrath! It is a question of seeking to answer the question of whether Jesus is who He says He is! He made HImself the only Savior of mankind and will give it freely to whomever asks.

YOU must sxearch for yourself to find HIm, for He can be found if you wish to find HIm.

word
No son of man may die for another's sins; the lifesoul that sins, dies
id be finding that Jesus

 

[Apache1]

right? But there is a way to get that, that is not religious, fwiw

well, you might (stop asking religious ppl, whom Jesus Himself clowned, and) see that an analogy is being made, and that there is a sense in which you rebelled, when you realized that you could lie or otherwise serve yourself at the expense of others. Note that, contrary to most religious ppls beliefs, Yah will still seek you out even after you have rebelled

Well you COULD lie or serve yourself, but really if you wanted to do that and REBEL there are better ways than choosing to come to this planet and be stuck in a sick body of death where no matter what you do you have to go to bed and do it all again

 

[bbyrd009]

Well you COULD lie or serve yourself, but really if you wanted to do that and REBEL there are better ways than choosing to come to this planet and be stuck in a sick body of death where no matter what you do you have to go to bed and do it all again

tbh im not really sure that that is even possible, having received free will? Being unfamiliar with how to handle it, i think one would only naturally test its boundaries. But the "fact" remains that there is a sense in which you crucified Christ (Immanuel) all by yourself, back when you were...pretty young, 3 or something, and there is a way to choose life, rather than death, and there are keys to the kingdom, that might be accessed right now

 

[Apache1]

Yeah I wonder about that. Let’s say you’re God/Jesus. It’s long before the events in Eden have happened. Why would you come up with a plan of salvation that involved crucifying Jesus because one of your yet unmade creations was going to rebel and mess everything up

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah I reject that ridiculous unjust idea that we are all filthy lost evil creatures deserving of death.

Then you just rejected GOD who has said the same in the scriptures . ITS real obvious
you have not come to the saving knowledge of Christ . And rather that you make war with GOD
to protect this idea that humans are good loving folks who are not evil .
WE all lost filthy things . BUT PRAISE GOD for HIS LIFE SAVING and LIFE CHANGING GRACE given those in CHRIST

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yeah I reject that ridiculous unjust idea that we are all filthy lost evil creatures deserving of death.

Compared to a perfect holy God we are! We are better than some but worse than others, but sinful in front of the god who spoke the universe into existence. As He is God, He gets to make the rules. He didn't have to send Jesus to save us, but He did because He loves us!

 

[Taken]

Really

I suggest you think it through

How could an almighty all knowing God possibly be threatened by any of us. We’re That’s the major problem with the whole “rebellion” theory.

Who said anything about God being threatened by a man...?
What a silly notion.

 

[Taken]

Yeah I reject that ridiculous unjust idea that we are all filthy lost evil creatures deserving of death.

Matters not what you think is unjust, or that you are a filthy lost evil creature.
Fact is God created KINDS of beings.
Fact is manKIND of being Reproduces from a mans SEED.
All manKIND of beings LIFE is BLOOD.
All of manKIND’s LIFE is sentenced to DIE.
Not ONE natural BLOOD LIFE born man is suited to DWELL in a Spiritual Realm.
There is ZERO possibility for ANY man to Receive Gods SEED and Live forever, Unless that mans BODY first DIES.
( That is Gods WAY...and the man who DIES without Belief IN God...no worry’s, God will FORGET about them. )

Do you Not Know, Every Earthly seed: man, animals, plants DIES in order for it to reproduce?

1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

 

[Taken]

Then you just rejected GOD who has said the same in the scriptures . ITS real obvious
you have not come to the saving knowledge of Christ . And rather that you make war with GOD
to protect this idea that humans are good loving folks who are not evil .
WE all lost filthy things . BUT PRAISE GOD for HIS LIFE SAVING and LIFE CHANGING GRACE given those in CHRIST

He appears to have skimmed the Bible and picked out pet peeve key words, without a clue of what they mean and why God established His Order and Way...Creation AND
Making what was not alive...alive
Making what was lost..found
Making what was ignorant...enlightened
Making what was enlightened...wise
Making what was naturally dead...spiritually alive
Making what was dead, and chose to remain dead....dead and forgotten.