Do you think this is impossible? To become completely sanctified in this lifetime?
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Go and Sin no more...is this possible?
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amigo de christo
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peace and holiness . but not anti christ ecuemenical peace . That we do not heed , follow
or hold too . Better watch out cause the wrong peace is being sold to christendom and the false religoins
by a very highly exalted and wise ecumeincal harlot and her father the inclusive god known as satan .
Marvelloustime
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Taken
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Go and Sin no more...is this possible?
YES.
John 8:
[11] She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
WHEN?
When does one “sin no more”?
John 15:
[4] Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
HOW?
Rom 10:
[9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, (then) thou shalt be saved.
[10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 4:
[7] Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
WHY?
1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Heb 10:
[7] Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Heb 10:
[17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Can a man “IN Christ”…and “Christ IN” a man…
Sin Against God….?
AKA….
DENIAL of the Lord God Almighty?
No.
BECAUSE…
1John 4:
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Glory to God,
Taken
YES.
John 8:
[11] She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
WHEN?
When does one “sin no more”?
John 15:
[4] Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
HOW?
Rom 10:
[9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, (then) thou shalt be saved.
[10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 4:
[7] Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
WHY?
1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Heb 10:
[7] Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Heb 10:
[17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Can a man “IN Christ”…and “Christ IN” a man…
Sin Against God….?
AKA….
DENIAL of the Lord God Almighty?
No.
BECAUSE…
1John 4:
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Glory to God,
Taken
When you say "completely sanctified" do you mean opposed to "partially sanctified" or "incompletely sanctified"?
Please clarify.
I don't believe "sanctified" needs an adverb/adjective...it takes away from it's meaning.
It's like the word "pregnant." You either are or you're not. You can't be "completely", "partially", or "half" pregnant. Likewise with "holy".... you either are or aren't.
I don't believe we can/should "add" to what God does....when we do, it takes away.
P.S. I do believe one can be sanctified in this lifetime.
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There were 12 Hebrew men who entered Canaan to spy out the land. All came back with wonderful testimonies of the bounties and beauty of the land. However, 10 of them said, we can't do this. 2 of them said, God can do this. Who are you siding with?
Just on its face, it is possible, if one actually quits sinning for good... <chuckles> ...to be sinless in this lifetime from that point forward. Just on its face. <smile> But no person can be completely rid of his/her "old man," so his/her sinful nature in this lifetime.
John puts no qualifier on his statement that, "if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Since the latter is true, then that eliminates the possibility of the former really being humanly possible. We are being made new (Revelation 21:5), we are being conformed to the image of Christ (Ephesians 1:4-5), and we know that God will bring that good work in us to completion at the day of Christ (Philippians 1:6).
But in this life, everything we do, no matter how "perfect," is... marred, at least in some small way... by the result of the fall of Adam in Genesis 3. To become completely sanctified in this lifetime would mean that from that point on, that person is no longer in need of a Savior, a Redeemer... Jesus... And in this lifetime that is just not reality. And, too, to think one can in this lifetime be glorified is to think he/she can be equal to Jesus, which of course is equally absurd as no longer needing Jesus.
But one day... <smile>
Grace and peace to all.
mailmandan
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On Christian Chat there is a member who believes he has reached sinless perfection and he even made this claim below:
Next month, I will start my 19th year without sin.
Though God could, should it be His intention, fully sanctify someone in this lifetime, so that they would live without any known sin. Do you see that possible? Something that could happen to any of us?
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quietthinker
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Go and Sin no more...is this possible?
Faithlessness is a choice. Faithlessness in the goodness and character of God ie.The Good News is the message that the lies of Satan are (present continuous) exposed and defeated......by Jesus submitting himself to being murdered, then bursting out of the grave in glorious resurrection.
The question then is, who can hear it? Who can join those dots?
We are so obsessed and insistent with our perception of doing, our understanding of God is distorted.
....back to the Woman, she was clearly guilty (caught in the act) and according to the Law was in line with stoning. Did Jesus circumvent the Law? in other words, side sep it, misrepresent it, even break it? I would say he invoked a far higher principle; one that reflected the very nature/ character of his Father,
I'm not even sure I understand the question, marks, to be honest. Yeah, God could do anything; no purpose of His can be thwarted. What we can be sure if is that God, Who began a good work in each of us, will ~ will, so in this lifetime, regardless of age, still yet future, and not "might," as if it were anything less than an absolute certainty ~ bring it to completion at the day of Christ.
We could put it this way, marks: God will bring it to completion, for each of us, right at the very end of our lifetime. <smile> Individually speaking, just as we breathe our last and offer up our spirit. <smile>
No one denies that we make all kinds of choices to do (or not do) a great many things, but consider the very definition of salvific faith, quietthinker, given to us in no uncertain terms in Hebrews 11:1. Faith is the assurance ~ the assurance of God ~ of things hoped for, the conviction ~ this conviction is by the Holy Spirit, Who convicts ~ of things not seen. We do not... can not... give this faith to ourselves, else it is no kind of assurance at all, but something more along the lines of wishful thinking.
If I understand your thinking regarding "faithlessness" correctly, this faithlessness is something someone has ~ and we all have it unless and until we are born again of the Spirit of God ~ and results in... many choices, for sure... And by the same token, if we receive this faith, then that also results in... many choices, for sure, but different than those made out of faithlessness. <smile>
His steadfast love extends to the heavens, His faithfulness to the clouds (Psalm 36:5), yes. Indeed.
That's the 'now,' yes, but there is a 'not yet.' Inaugurated, but not yet completed. But it surely will be, and we can live now in that absolute certainty.
The woman of John 8, I presume... That was really about condemnation and judgment for sin, which can only be exacted by God. It's not up to any of us to separate the wheat from the tares, right? No. Concerning the woman of John 8, though, we never hear anything about her ever again. Whether she really repented of her sin we do not know; it's possible she did not. And by the same token, we as Christians know that there is no more condemnation for sin if we have received His mercy and compassion and are in Christ (Romans 8:1). The exhortation to all of us is not to sin anymore, but alas, in this life, we cannot be without sin. If we ever say we are without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. But we can confess our sin and repent of it, and know that God, in His justness and faithfulness, will forgive. The apostle John, in 1 John 2, is very clear about that... <smile>
Grace and peace to you both.
