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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.
 
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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.
Romans 1:20
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
 

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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.
The problem with your whole theology is that
it don't matter what you or any of us think concerning God
and His creation or behavior towards it.

He created it, He owns it, and He does as He sees fit.
And who can do anything about it but rebel and complain?
And from what I understand, God even prepared a place for them
in His creation. It is called hell and the lake of fire.
 
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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.

God didn't create mankind to be "dumb" because He made us in His image by giving us a soul. The soul is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, free, immortal, like the Father Who created it.
 
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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.

I don't see how a truly supreme being could ever be as bored as you seem to be making Him out to be.

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God = liar​

Isn't that the charge Satan makes of God even though God gives him life .......revealing God's long-suffering
Isn't it Satan who projects his malevolent designs onto God?

Doesn't God give you life even when you misrepresent him?
 
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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.

If you found yourself saying the same words and giving similar rationale, as Hitler, or Jeffery Dahmer...would that concern you?

It should.

...'Cause your tread title is a near perfect quote of Satan.
 

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If god existed and if he wanted to he could have created every living being without the intelligence to know the true sinister nature of himself. He could have put everyone in an illusion that is so hard to understand for those within it, that they couldn't know he is the one who caused evil. If that happened, we humans wouldn't know it because we would be under his spell. If god were truly that sinister, he would force us to not know it by using his powers to disable us from knowing to use as business pawns for his own gains. He would not do so out of being evil, but he would make us too dumb to know that.

He would use his powers to make us so extremely dumb to the point of not knowing how he could possibly use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God could have made reality work in such a way so that he could use us as pawns without it being that he's evil. God can make anything be evil and make anything be good. He is omnipotent. He can make it so that when he created evil it's not him being evil but also make it so that when we do evil it's only us being evil.

Humans have always shown all criteria and signs of being extremely dumb and arrogant, and criminal. That doesn't imply that they r smart enough to know that I'm right about god.

We humans r dumb. How do we know we aren't so dumb that we don't even realize that god created evil and we were too dumb to know it?

Humans dumb behavior makes me know that all humans have been extremely criminal towards others and themselves. That doesn't imply they r smart enough to know that god is the one who caused evil. Instead, it implies they r like toddlers who would rather believe every fairy tale lie taught about God than actually think deeply about God's ruthless behavior.

The dumber you r, the harder it is to believe the truth.

All of creation is rigged mainly in favor of god. So why wouldn't he just rig certain things that we don't know of that would make us too dumb to know what he did to us that he isnt telling us?

If it was some kind of necessary thing for god to create evil, he would have to make us too dumb to notice that he created it, while he would sit and let evil battle good through history. Even if god created evil, that doesn't mean he would let us know. He could just force us to be too dumb to know against our will. He would use us as puppets for a higher purpose that wed be too dumb to understand.

If god created evil for a higher purpose he wouldn't let us know until we evolved to know. We'd have to earn it. He would let us evolve until we'd know and then we'd be free from all negativity forever.

Everything comes with a price. God forces you to pay for freedom from negativity.

Reading over all these "would/could/can" statements again, I'm thinking the god you're talking about is way too much like us to be God.

"Thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself."

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God = liar​


I’ve been speaking away from Christianity Board with people who self-identify as Christian who are absolutely convinced that Yahweh is a liar. Not only a liar, the liar - Satan.

”Yahweh is the devil.” - names withheld in order to concentrate on the teaching, not the persons teaching it

Better or worse than the atheists?