Government Shutdown

[soberxp]

ahhhh, the corruption amongst the rich and powerful. Has it ever been any different?

There is no difference. What makes it different is that the Book of Revelation describes the end times in parables, telling us that we need to face difficulties— or rather, great tribulations— not to delude ourselves into escaping this world, but to endure to the end and participate in the millennial reign with Christ and by the word of God.

 

[quietthinker]

There is no difference. What makes it different is that the Book of Revelation describes the end times in parables, telling us that we need to face difficulties— or rather, great tribulations— not to delude ourselves into escaping this world, but to endure to the end and participate in the millennial reign with Christ and by the word of God.

I think in all global history it is the character of God which is misrepresented/ under attack. The Gospel reverses those misrepresentations and blows them out of the water, so to speak.
The symbolism in Revelation typifies this struggle by oppressive systems opposed to the message of God's liberation. Oppressive systems will persist till Jesus returns. We are given information through John which requires accurate decoding, the key of which is Jesus.
The question which arises is, who is able to recognise the key and who knows how to use it?

 

[soberxp]

I think in all global history it is the character of God which is misrepresented/ under attack. The Gospel reverses those misrepresentations and blows them out of the water, so to speak.
The symbolism in Revelation typifies this struggle by oppressive systems opposed to the message of God's liberation. Oppressive systems will persist till Jesus returns. We are given information through John which requires accurate decoding, the key of which is Jesus.
The question which arises is, who is able to recognise the key and who knows how to use it?

People always look forward to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ,
yet the Bible emphasizes being prepared.

People always place their hope in something,
then forget what they themselves ought to prepare for.

Is it merely about preparation?
No,
Indeed not. It is not just preparation. Moreover, after being prepared, must it be the Second Coming of Jesus Christ that makes the world righteous?

The Book of Revelation has revealed everything we need to face.

 

[Jack]

There is no difference. What makes it different is that the Book of Revelation describes the end times in parables, telling us that we need to face difficulties— or rather, great tribulations— not to delude ourselves into escaping this world, but to endure to the end and participate in the millennial reign with Christ and by the word of God.

Parables? Where does it say or imply such?

 

[soberxp]

Parables? Where does it say or imply such?

If you can't see it, why should or how can I do it for you.

 

[mailmandan]

I got on my TSPFOLIO to see what the TSP fund interest rates are for October but still no update due to the government shutdown.
At least I received my monthly retirement check from the Post Office. I wonder how much longer this shutdown will last.

 

[Jack]

If you can't see it, why should or how can I do it for you.

Just because you don't like what God said doesn't make it a parable. That's common JW practice. Give us some proof.

 

[soberxp]

Just because you don't like what God said doesn't make it a parable. That's common JW practice. Give us some proof.

I don't want give the proof.
Cuz you will don't understand it.
And no one can change the future.

 

[Jack]

I don't want give the proof.
Cuz you will don't understand it.
And no one can change the future.

Oh I think I understand.

 

[soberxp]

Oh I think I understand.

May ask you some questions: Do you think global warming is real or a hoax?

What do you think will be the consequences of Japan's discharge of nuclear power plant wastewater into the ocean?

Additionally, what consequences will the breakdown of plastic waste into microplastics in the ocean have on marine life?

Do you think these events are related to the prophecies in the Book of Revelation？

 

[Always]

They will get back pay when a budget passes. I worked in gov't and most had a second job.

Not all, I am an ex-govt. worker, and never worked a 2nd job, I lived within my means with the one job, so as not to neglect time with my family.

 

[Taken]

Government Shutdown

NOT the “scary” ACT “political broadcasters” attempt to make a “government shutdown” SEEM.

“Essential” employees will continue to Work…fulfill their Duties.

The US Fed government has…
The 3 Branches of Government…(remain active.)
The Peoples Representatives…(back to their States)
The States Representatives…(back to their States)
The 20 constitutional Agencies…
An Additional 450 + “Agencies” —->

Elected, Appointed and Hired Employees….
Totaling Approx 3,000+ individuals.

Essentials..
President, Cabinet, VP, elected officials, mail, military, SS, (ssi, Medicare, Medicaid), paying Fed bills obligations… Continue during “shut down”.

“Non- essential Agents (Thousands)and Agencies (hundreds)…(will be suspended from pay and duty).

Possible… their positions eliminated, and no longer employed by the government.

So ya, a lot of “concern for Possible downsizing of the Fed government… by thousands who work for the Government!”

And for the public at Large… do not be Ignorant.. thousands of those Federal employees SOLE JOB IS TO “collect money from the people at Large”… taxes, fees, monetary gifts… and sending letters of threat to send TO YOU for you to SEND YOUR earned wealth TO THEM .

 

[Jack]

Most of government could be eliminated and the US would be better off in nearly every way! Government: One of the biggest SCAMS in history.

 

[ScottA]

The shutdown is being used for good.

Things may look like business as usual, but the US is under Continuity of Government, a Constitutional measure allowing covert operations for government to continue when normal operations are disrupted or under attack.

The shutdown is being used to shutdown unconstitutional activities and operatives within the federal government.

By no coincidence the National Guard is simultaneously being deployed in major US cities, including DC. It is one operation.

 

[ScottA]

I thought Trump said billions of dollar is flowing into the US because of the tariffs.
I guess that gimmick is not working out that well.

The U.S. national debt reached approximately $37.5 trillion as of late September 2025, according to U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data and the Joint Economic Committee.

Does it look like something is amiss? It is--but it's for good. See post #34.

 

[Jack]

Dems don't mean it for good. The only 'good' they seek is destroying the US.

 

[Jack]

I think there may be a LOT of Islam hiding in the US government. / Sharia Law!

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[mailmandan]

Trump says Schumer, Senate Democrats holding government 'hostage' with shutdown: 'We will not be extorted'

Trump says Schumer, Senate Democrats holding government 'hostage' with shutdown: 'We will not be extorted'

President Donald Trump says Republicans "will not be extorted" by Senate Democrats during the ongoing government shutdown, which is now in its 21st day.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I thought Trump said billions of dollar is flowing into the US because of the tariffs.
I guess that gimmick is not working out that well.

The U.S. national debt reached approximately $37.5 trillion as of late September 2025, according to U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data and the Joint Economic Committee.

After awhile it has to be said.
Will Trumps enemies ever tire of making fools of themselves?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

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As of October 20 The U.S. Has Brought in $197 Billion in Revenue From Gross Tariff and Certain Other Excise Taxes in 2025, Billions Above Levels in Recent Years​

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