'He will also deny us' (2 Timothy 2:12)

[charity]

@mjrhealth
@VictoryinJesus

Hello there,

You have both followed on from the entry by @quietthinker, and referred to the parables, when the OP discusses the words of Paul to Timothy, regarding the members of the church which is the Body of Christ, the mystery made known to Paul by revelation of God, and administered through the epistles:- Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon. When the parables are addressed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and are the mysteries of the Kingdom: which bear no relation to The Mystery which God gave to Paul to administer as His Steward:-

'That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs,
and of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ
by the gospel: whereof I was made a minister,
according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me
by the effectual working of His power.
Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given,
that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God,
who created all things by Jesus Christ:
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places
might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
According to the eternal purpose which He purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of Him.'
(Ephesians 3:6-12)

Praise God! Praise His Holy Name!

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[VictoryinJesus]

When the parables are addressed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and are the mysteries of the Kingdom: which bear no relation to The Mystery which God gave to Paul to administer as His Steward:-

Understood. But I’m curious how set you are the parables are addressed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Don’t disagree as the ministration of condemnation can be heard in them) So if I understand you correctly, you never have applied the parable of the talents in Matthew 25 to the church today? But keep the talents separate as it only to applies to the Jews?

Disagree Grace is found in the parables, (imo)being that good ground that brings forth(increases and multiplied)which is also His kingdom. (Not withered, not scorched, not consumed, or not devoured having no root) Matthew 13:8-9 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [9] Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 

[Waiting on him]

They cast Him out too. Calling Him a drunk. “Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. [23] Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. [24] But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. [25] Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep. [26] Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. [27] But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, [28] Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.” Luke 6:22-28

Mark 4:16-17 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; [17] And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

“So endure but for a time” “If you endure” comes in not the above which are immediately offended and by other verses they fall away or deny or go away ...then there is the one ground which endures ‘hopes all things, believes all things, bears all things, and endures all things) and springs forth and bears fruit.


Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. [23] Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for for, behold, your reward is great...clothed with a New Man.

So yeah we love to see what is cast out, until we see what is cast out might be us. Who can straighten what is made crooked?

I'm the one who dug my grave.

 

[Waiting on him]

@mjrhealth
@VictoryinJesus

Hello there,

You have both followed on from the entry by @quietthinker, and referred to the parables, when the OP discusses the words of Paul to Timothy, regarding the members of the church which is the Body of Christ, the mystery made known to Paul by revelation of God, and administered through the epistles:- Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon. When the parables are addressed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and are the mysteries of the Kingdom: which bear no relation to The Mystery which God gave to Paul to administer as His Steward:-

'That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs,
and of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ
by the gospel: whereof I was made a minister,
according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me
by the effectual working of His power.
Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given,
that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God,
who created all things by Jesus Christ:
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places
might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
According to the eternal purpose which He purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of Him.'
(Ephesians 3:6-12)

Praise God! Praise His Holy Name!

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Fellow heirs with who?

 

[charity]

Fellow heirs with who?

Hello @Waiting on him,

That the Gentiles should be, 'fellowheirs' with their Jewish brothers and sisters in Christ, as equals: which was not the case during the period covered by the Acts of the Apostles; for during that time Israel was always first, having a prior position; as salvation during that time was 'of the Jews' (John 4:22) and when Gentiles were granted entry into the kingdom, by faith in Christ Jesus, they were grafted into Israel's olive tree, in the attempt to make Israel Jealous and to emulate them.

However at the time of the writing of Ephesians, Israel's Olive Tree was no longer there to be grafted into, Israel having gone away into the blindness of unbelief: and salvation had been sent to the Gentiles (Acts 28:28). So God had given a revelation to the Apostle Paul: to make known the new creation of the church which is the Body of Christ of which He is the Head; in which the new administration of God was made known, in the epistles that followed* for the church going forward.

(*Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Tmothy, Titus and Philemon).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[mjrhealth]

Fellow heirs with who?

Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd

 

[charity]

Understood. But I’m curious how set you are the parables are addressed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Don’t disagree as the ministration of condemnation can be heard in them) So if I understand you correctly, you never have applied the parable of the talents in Matthew 25 to the church today? But keep the talents separate as it only to applies to the Jews?

Disagree Grace is found in the parables, (imo)being that good ground that brings forth(increases and multiplied)which is also His kingdom. (Not withered, not scorched, not consumed, or not devoured having no root) Matthew 13:8-9 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. [9] Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Hello @VictoryinJesus,

I am 'set' as you say, in regard to the fact that the parables have no application to the church within this present dispensation. Yes, application can be justifiably made in regard to the reception of the truth of the gospel, as in the parable of the sower that you have referred to: but the church which is the Body of Christ, goes back before the foundation of the world, but was not the subject of either the Old Testament Prophets, of the gospels, or of Paul's earlier epistles, but only of those written following the revelation of God, given to Him to administer following the fall of Israel into unbelief and blindness at the end of the Acts period: that knowledge having been hid in God for ages and generations, since the world began (Ephesians 3:9 & Colossians 1:25-26), until the moment of it's revelation (in Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon).

Thank you VictoryinJesus
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Hello @VictoryinJesus,

I am 'set' as you say, in regard to the fact that the parables have no application to the church within this present dispensation. Yes, application can be justifiably made in regard to the reception of the truth of the gospel, as in the parable of the sower that you have referred to: but the church which is the Body of Christ, goes back before the foundation of the world, but was not the subject of either the Old Testament Prophets, of the gospels, or of Paul's earlier epistles, but only of those written following the revelation of God, given to Him to administer following the fall of Israel into unbelief and blindness at the end of the Acts period: that knowledge having been hid in God for ages and generations, since the world began (Ephesians 3:9 & Colossians 1:25-26), until the moment of it's revelation (in Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon).

Thank you VictoryinJesus
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Not that it is the subject of your thread but only want to share with you. Do you not see grace or the gospel in the OT? Numbers 5:18-28 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse: [19] And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: [20] But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: [21] Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; [22] And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. [23] And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water: [24] And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. [25] Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord, and offer it upon the altar: [26] And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. [27] And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. [28] And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

Galatians 4:30-31 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Who is the woman not defiled, but clean; free, and shall conceive seed? New Jerusalem above. 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

I’m sorry. Struggle greatly to see how you say that His body is not there in the parables or OT when the Church (His body) is in if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
Romans 9:8

 

[charity]

Not that it is the subject of your thread but only want to share with you. Do you not see grace or the gospel in the OT? Numbers 5:18-28 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse: [19] And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: [20] But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: [21] Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; [22] And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. [23] And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water: [24] And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. [25] Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord, and offer it upon the altar: [26] And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. [27] And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. [28] And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

Galatians 4:30-31 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Who is the woman not defiled, but clean; free, and shall conceive seed? New Jerusalem above. 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

I’m sorry. Struggle greatly to see how you say that His body is not there in the parables or OT when the Church (His body) is in if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
Romans 9:8

Hello @VictoryinJesus

Thank you for coming back to me on this. Yes, the mystery of Christ was the subject of the Old Testament, the gospels, the early epistles of Paul, and the general epistles, for that was not 'Hid in God' since the world began: but 'The Mystery' concerning the church which is Christ's Body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all: was not revealed until Israel went away into blindness and unbelief, and then only to Paul, and administered by him, through his later (prison) epistles, (Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon).

Within the love of Christ our Saviour
Our Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[Candidus]

'It is a faithful saying:
For if we be dead with Him,
we shall also live with Him:
If we suffer (or endure), we shall also reign with Him:
if we deny Him, He also will deny us:
If we believe not, yet He abideth faithful:
He cannot deny Himself.'
(2 Timothy 2:11-13)

Hello @Candidus,

What Paul said was 'Faithful' and 'True': for as the Apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God he could speak with their authority. Praise God!

In regard to what you said about God's faithfulness, Candidus, don't you agree, that we must remember that what is said through Paul, in these verses (above), is indeed said on that same authority: not to unbelievers but believers. God is faithful and will keep His promises, regarding the gift of eternal life: that will not be denied them; but what will be denied them for unfaithfulness and being ashamed of their Lord, is the reward of faithful service, which is to reign with Christ. Believers have nothing to fear from the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ: who has adopted them as Son's in and through Him. They will be chastened as sons, but never cast away.

You mention Hebrews 3:12 and Jude 21, both of which were not addressed to the church which is the body of Christ, as the epistle to 2 Timothy was: but both were written to Hebrew believers who were wavering and in danger of placing themselves back under the law, during the Acts period, when these epistles were written.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

The hyper-dispensationalism you propose is philosophy, and not Biblical Theology. Jude 21 is speaking to Christians. You cannot tell someone that they must keep themselves "in" the love of God, if they are not already "in" the love of God. As for Hebrews 3:12, it is impossible to "depart" from a position, place, or status unless you are not already there. This is clearly speaking to Christians and not just a warning not to go back to the Law, but not to "depart" or "fall away" from the Living God!

It is an assumption to deny what Paul writes to Timothy on the basis of presuming that Paul or the Bible teaches any such thing as an unconditional gift or eternal life. God is faithful and true, and we can bank on all of His promises, whether they be positive or negative.

Note that in all three instances, Jude 21, Hebrews 3:12, and 2 Timothy 2:11-13, the responsibility is placed on the believer. They must "keep yourselves in the love of God," "not "depart" from the living God, and only "if" we are dead in Him, will we live with Him, only "if" we endure, we will reign with Him, "if" we deny Him, He will deny us... God is faithful... but we may not be.

 

[charity]

The hyper-dispensationalism you propose is philosophy, and not Biblical Theology. Jude 21 is speaking to Christians. You cannot tell someone that they must keep themselves "in" the love of God, if they are not already "in" the love of God. As for Hebrews 3:12, it is impossible to "depart" from a position, place, or status unless you are not already there. This is clearly speaking to Christians and not just a warning not to go back to the Law, but not to "depart" or "fall away" from the Living God!

It is an assumption to deny what Paul writes to Timothy on the basis of presuming that Paul or the Bible teaches any such thing as an unconditional gift or eternal life. God is faithful and true, and we can bank on all of His promises, whether they be positive or negative.

Note that in all three instances, Jude 21, Hebrews 3:12, and 2 Timothy 2:11-13, the responsibility is placed on the believer. They must "keep yourselves in the love of God," "not "depart" from the living God, and only "if" we are dead in Him, will we live with Him, only "if" we endure, we will reign with Him, "if" we deny Him, He will deny us... God is faithful... but we may not be.

Hello @Candidus,

I am not aware of having proposed anything of a philosophical nature, and certainly not said anything that is not Biblical: but simply responded to your entry reply#7. I do not deny anything that Paul has written to Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:11-13, or presumed anything in regard to it. Nor do I deny personal responsibility. What I do maintain is that the promise of life will not be withdrawn from the believer in the Lord Jesus Christ: but that the prize for faithful service can be lost.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Candidus]

Hello @Candidus,

I am not aware of having proposed anything of a philosophical nature, and certainly not said anything that is not Biblical: but simply responded to your entry reply#7. I do not deny anything that Paul has written to Timothy in ch.2:11-13, or presumed anything in regard to it. Nor do I deny personal responsibility. What I do maintain is that the promise of life will not be withdrawn from the believer in the Lord Jesus Christ: but that the prize for faithful service can be lost.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Jude 21 and Hebrews 3:12 were swiftly swept away, and the presumption that Eternal life is not conditional as Scripture states, was assumed in the eisegesis of 2 Timothy 2:11-13. If you have to dismiss so much of the Bible to "arrive" at a certain conclusion, then I would suggest that there may be something wrong with that conclusion.

You have made up your mind, which you are not alone, for many people approach Scripture in the same way. It reminds me of a discussion just about a year ago I had before the Sunday Worship Service at Church... I was attending a Holiness Church that was adamantly opposed to alcohol, and taught the necessity of tithing. While I was having a conversation with the pastor, another brother was in over on the side having a deep conversation with several others over a Bible passage. He got up and came over with his Bible and shoved it in front of the pastor, and pointed out Deut. 14:22-26, which spoke of using Tithe Money to purchase and consume wine and strong drink. I think that it put the pastor on the spot, and he turned to me and asked, "What do you think it means?" I firmly responded, "Since it is in the Bible, it apparently means just what it means!" An uncomfortable silence came over the room, the piano started playing and the pastor dismissed himself and went to the pulpit.

 

[charity]

Jude 21 and Hebrews 3:12 were swiftly swept away, and the presumption that Eternal life is not conditional as Scripture states, was assumed in the eisegesis of 2 Timothy 2:11-13. If you have to dismiss so much of the Bible to "arrive" at a certain conclusion, then I would suggest that there may be something wrong with that conclusion.

You have made up your mind, which you are not alone, for many people approach Scripture in the same way. It reminds me of a discussion just about a year ago I had before the Sunday Worship Service at Church... I was attending a Holiness Church that was adamantly opposed to alcohol, and taught the necessity of tithing. While I was having a conversation with the pastor, another brother was in over on the side having a deep conversation with several others over a Bible passage. He got up and camHee over with his Bible and shoved it in front of the pastor, and pointed out Deut. 14:22-26, which spoke of using Tithe Money to purchase and consume wine and strong drink. I think that it put the pastor on the spot, and he turned to me and asked, "What do you think it means?" I firmly responded, "Since it is in the Bible, it apparently means just what it means!" An uncomfortable silence came over the room, the piano started playing and the pastor dismissed himself and went to the pulpit.

Hello @Candidus,

If I were guilty of what you say in your first paragraph that would be serious indeed. I am sorry that you think so. I have not swept either Jude 1:21, or Hebrews 3:12 away: and Romans 6:23 tells us that eternal life is a gift of God received through Jesus Christ our Lord.

'And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish,
but have eternal life.'
For God so loved the world,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in Him
should not perish, but have everlasting life.'
(John 3:14-16)

'As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh,
that He should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given Him.
And this is life eternal,
that they might know thee the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent.'
(John 17:2-3)

Praise God!

With love to you, Candidus
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Stan B]

'It is a faithful saying:
For if we be dead with Him,
we shall also live with Him:
If we suffer (or endure), we shall also reign with Him:
if we deny Him, He also will deny us:
If we believe not, yet He abideth faithful:
He cannot deny Himself.'
(2 Timothy 2:11-13) Chris

Chris, perhaps I a too old, having embraced my Lord for the past 65 years, I cannot imagine how any 'Christian' could ever deny Him!! In fact, I would deem it a privilege to be martyred in His name. Just my thoughts.

 

[Stan B]

He got up and came over with his Bible and shoved it in front of the pastor, and pointed out Deut. 14:22-26, which spoke of using Tithe Money to purchase and consume wine and strong drink. I think that it put the pastor on the spot, and he turned to me and asked, "What do you think it means?" I firmly responded, "Since it is in the Bible, it apparently means just what it means!" An uncomfortable silence came over the room, the piano started playing and the pastor dismissed himself and went to the pulpit.

Giggle!! Did he also point out that only the tithe of the third year is to go to the church?? The tithe of the other two years is to be spent on booze and having fun!

 

[charity]

Jude 21 and Hebrews 3:12 were swiftly swept away, and the presumption that Eternal life is not conditional as Scripture states, was assumed in the eisegesis of 2 Timothy 2:11-13. If you have to dismiss so much of the Bible to "arrive" at a certain conclusion, then I would suggest that there may be something wrong with that conclusion.

You have made up your mind, which you are not alone, for many people approach Scripture in the same way. It reminds me of a discussion just about a year ago I had before the Sunday Worship Service at Church... I was attending a Holiness Church that was adamantly opposed to alcohol, and taught the necessity of tithing. While I was having a conversation with the pastor, another brother was in over on the side having a deep conversation with several others over a Bible passage. He got up and came over with his Bible and shoved it in front of the pastor, and pointed out Deut. 14:22-26, which spoke of using Tithe Money to purchase and consume wine and strong drink. I think that it put the pastor on the spot, and he turned to me and asked, "What do you think it means?" I firmly responded, "Since it is in the Bible, it apparently means just what it means!" An uncomfortable silence came over the room, the piano started playing and the pastor dismissed himself and went to the pulpit.

Hello @Candidus,

'But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before
of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time,
who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual,
having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith,
praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God,
looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
And of some have compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire;
hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.'
(Jude 1:17-25)

'Wherefore -
(as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear His voice,
Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation,
in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
When your fathers tempted Me,
proved Me, and saw My works forty years.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said,
They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known My ways.
So I sware in My wrath, They shall not enter into My rest.)
Take heed, brethren, -
lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day;
lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
For we are made partakers of Christ,
if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end;
While it is said,
To day if ye will hear His voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
For some, when they had heard, did provoke:
howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
But with whom was He grieved forty years?
was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
And to whom sware He that they should not enter into His rest, but to them that believed not?
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.'
(Heb 3:7-19)

* Here are the verses you referenced within their context.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris