Hebrew Roots ends now

[pittsburghjoe]

Hebrews 9:10 KJV — Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Have you read Matthew 5? He Upgraded The Law ...He was explaining what The Law looks like on your Heart.​

 

[atpollard]

“Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished! Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.” - Jesus [Matthew 5:17-20 NASB]

TRUTH or a lie?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

“Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished! Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.” - Jesus [Matthew 5:17-20 NASB]

TRUTH or a lie?

You could have The Law on your Heart after He Returned around 70 A.D. ...not before.

We are no longer under Mosaic Law after we have CHRIST'S LAW Of LIFE Written to our Hearts ...That's what The Author of FAITH Did ...Made FAITH Possible to be Finished. FAITH Is being in The Book of LIFE ...not your goofy acknowledging JESUS is real.

[Romans 8:2 KJV] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Galatians 3:25 KJV — But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Hebrews 12:2 KJV — Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

[Romans 2:14-15 KJV] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: ((Explaining Law can be on your heart ...no one could have CHRIST'S Law on their heart yet))
[15] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another: )

you accepted satan's redefinition of FAITH.

 

[Cassandra]

If the 10 commandments were Moses law, then what law were those before Moses judged by? Cain, all of the folk that died in the flood,
etc?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If the 10 commandments were Moses law, then what law were those before Moses judged by? Cain, all of the folk that died in the flood,
etc?

Did GOD Say anything about Law before Moses? No. GOD doesn't need Law in place to give people what they disserve.

[Romans 5:13-14 KJV] (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
[14] Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

death in Scripture is death to your Relationship with GOD.

 

[David in NJ]

Sadly many Christians believe in the "New Covenant" theology that is man made. Does this mean that I should bag those who have this understanding? No. I should not bag them for their belief in Christ, even if my understanding is very different.

Today, many Christians are anti Jews, holding onto the belief that it was the Jews who crucified Christ on the Cross, whereas, it was only a very small percentage of the Jewish population that did so in the early hours of the morning.

Some of the understanding of the Hebrew Roots movement is good for all Christians to know, however like all "movement" that adhere to a "Christian doctrine," there will also be parts that are not in line with what Christ taught or the scriptures, both the OT and the NT, teaches us.

May the Hebrew Roots movement be just one of the many means that God uses to draw people to Himself. As Christ said, "Leave them alone," and just worry about what you believe and its drawing of you to Christ/God.

There are many "tares" planted within the Wheat field, but the angels will separate the tares from the wheat when they harvest the fields. It is not our role to do so.

Shalom

Under Moses there were only 12 sent out to spy the Land and all but 2 came back with a false report,
and
what happened to the ENTIRE Nation from the false reporting of 10 men?

When their MESSIAH came did not the Jewish leaders, including most of the Jews, commit the SAME act AGAIN?

Acts 3:13-16
"The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all."

Acts 7:51-53 = Stephen addressing the Jewish Leaders
“You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.”

 

[David in NJ]

If the 10 commandments were Moses law, then what law were those before Moses judged by? Cain, all of the folk that died in the flood,
etc?

The same Law that came to earth and died on the cross for our sins.

 

[atpollard]

Under Moses there were only 12 sent out to spy the Land and all but 2 came back with a false report,

Wouldn't be ironic if those two came from the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin? [just a random thought.]

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Hebrew Roots has made a religion of pride.​

everything they do is in the name of pride. pride in upholding the Old Covenant. pride in using GOD'S Real Name. pride in claiming to be doing 613 Laws instead of having anything Written to their Hearts.​

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The Sermon on The Mount was a Warning against pride:​

[Matthew 5:28-29 KJV] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
[29] And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

• all sin is connected to pride. doing street drugs? you are doing them to get away from GOD ...pride.
• using porn? you are self pleasuring ...pride.
• are you lying about something to make yourself look better or give yourself more control? ...pride.
• are you hoarding money from someone in need that you know wouldn't use it on drugs? ...pride.
• do you enjoy worldly entertainment? that's selfish pride.
• just thinking about revenge is obviously pride.

[Matthew 5:21-22 KJV] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

the point being, pride prevents you from Entering The Kingdom Relationship.​

A child doesn't have pride so they have REST.​

[Matthew 18:1-4 KJV] At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
[2] And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
[3] And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[4] Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

"greatest" anything is pride.​

 

[David in NJ]

Wouldn't be ironic if those two came from the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin? [just a random thought.]

Do we know what tribe(s) Joshua and Caleb are from?

 

[David in NJ]

Wouldn't be ironic if those two came from the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin? [just a random thought.]

Caleb is from the tribe Judah.
Joshua is from the tribe of Joseph - a Ephramite

 

[GracePeace]

What addictions? You accuse them of some pretty surprising, but don't back it up.
How is Sabbath rest everyday?
Jesus death stopped the necessity of the sacrifices.
The other commandments are in force. Bet you keep 9 of the ten.

New Creation = New Sabbath

 

[Cassandra]

New Creation = New Sabbath

Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day

You keep the other nine commandments,don't you. God did not put a ceremonial law into the ten Commandments. If the Sabbath had been changed, there would be tons written about it, not just some break bread at you house stuff.

 

[David in NJ]

Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day

You keep the other nine commandments,don't you. God did not put a ceremonial law into the ten Commandments. If the Sabbath had been changed, there would be tons written about it, not just some break bread at you house stuff.

Hebrews 4:8 - For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward spoken of another Day.

Hebrews 4:8 is looking back to when Joshua(same name as Jesus) led the Children of Israel into the promised land.

 

[GracePeace]

Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day

You keep the other nine commandments,don't you. God did not put a ceremonial law into the ten Commandments. If the Sabbath had been changed, there would be tons written about it, not just some break bread at you house stuff.

Sabbath Commemorates God's rest He took after creating.

New Creation = New Rest = New Commemoration (Sabbath)

 

[David in NJ]

Sabbath Commemorates God's rest He took after creating.

New Creation = New Rest = New Commemoration (Sabbath)

What is the New Commemoration?

 

[GracePeace]

What is the New Commemoration?

Are you acknowledging there is a New Sabbath?

 

[David in NJ]

Are you acknowledging there is a New Sabbath?

Please define/explain this 'New Sabbath'.

 

[GracePeace]

Please define/explain this 'New Sabbath'.

By process of elimination, I know Christians do not need to worry about people pretending to speak for God condemning them for not observing 7th Day Sabbath--that's my point.