What does it matter who you were talking about? my point is that there is an example of someone who received mercy because they sought it out (see also Matthew 7:7-8).
Then why’d you asked?
Who? The publican in the parable of
Luke 18:9-14? I think not.
For the publican was at the altar, seeking the Lord.
I just answered your question.
I don't think that I used those exact words.
Well you did. Do you want to change anything there?
The law of love. The law that says it is a sin to walk after the flesh and righteousness to walk after the Spirit.
So that is what is written in your mind and heart, the law of love, which then means that is also the law in the old covenant?
I am pretty sure you know why the old
Covenant law (ten commandments and all the other commandments and precepts) were at all given to Israel, its purpose/s, its ministry. And those does not add up to being the law of love that you say here.
The old covenant laws were done away with (Romans 6:14, Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19, Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation;
However, as believers under the new covenant, the law is written on our hearts and in our minds (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5).
So, now it’s only a part of the covenant law that were done away with? That is not what could be understood when it says the old is by a new one, with the new being
not according the old (Heb.8:7-9).
I am quite sure you will agree that the laws on sacrifices for sins were done away with. Are these laws as concerning condemnation? No, right? For they are laws for the atonement and forgiveness of sins. So that is a problem even with your take there that only part (as concerning condemnation) of the OT law was done away with.
Why not? It is a biblical take on things.
Because when I examine scriptures, I see it as flawed.
Tong2020 said:
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Now, if they were not done away with and were passed over to the new covenant, so that the law remains the same in the new as were in the old covenant, what would you say is the purpose of the law?
The purpose of the law is two-fold:
1) It is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ (Galatians 3:24, Romans 3:20, Psalms 19:7 (kjv));
2) It is a set of wisdom principles to live by for the believer in Christ (James 1:25)...no longer a condemning taskmaster as it was before you came to faith in Christ.
So that means while you contend that the OT law was not done away with but was written in the minds and hearts of the new covenant people, it’s former purpose was done away with in the new covenant, no longer a condemning task master.
Things are getting really complicated now as much as they are getting far away from the testimony of scriptures.
Now, you say the purpose of the law is a school master to lead men to Christ, how do you, with the law written in your kind and heart lead men to Christ like it was supposed to in the OT?
Tong
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