Do you also believe we believing gentiles are not a part of the new covenant? And that Hebrews is not doctrinal for gentile believers, having no relevance?
WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?
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Some would call this progressive revelation.
Do you believe God didn't know that Adam would sin?
HOW do you think God changed in taking care of humans?
The first change was to ban Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of Life, while taking away their free food source, replacing it with labor and poor results.
Yes, they use terms like "progressive revelation", but the simplicity is that God changed His administration of man's "household", that is, there was a dispensational change.
Do I believe God didn't know Adam would sin? Do you believe God has all knowledge?
Much love!
God is not done with anybody.
ALL are invited.
I suppose you know that even foreigners were admitted into the Hebrew culture.
They had to be circumcised and they they could participate in the Passover and other cultural and religios events.
Circumcision was the sign of the Covenant...Mosaic.
Today it is baptism or the Eucharist -depending on who you ask.
A person that wants to be Christian will do either in order to be a member of the Body of Christ.
Same as circumcision...God said He would circumcise the heart.
Everything is the same.
Yes, that's true.
Do gentiles now join Israel, being circumcised, and offer sacrifice, and declare themselves that they will serve YHWH, in order to enter into relationship with God? Or do they now come straight to God through Jesus? I would say that they now go straight to God through Jesus, which shows a dispensational change.
Much love!
So this is a dispensation?
I say it's breaking a unilateral covenant.
Try the Edenic Covenant.
There are consequences to preferring satan over God.
I asked you HOW God changed.
What did He want differently in the OT than He does now?
If you believe God has all knowledge...
then He knew Adam would sin and ALWAYS knew how He would react.
If you don't believe God has all knowledge...
you don't follow orthodox Christianity.
The Bible tells us that being baptized into Jesus Christ is the manner in which we are saved. We are immersed into Jesus (not water, not a cracker) Himself, joined to Him, being justified, and given new life.
Much love!
What it shows is that Jesus was the last sacrifice...no more will be necessary.
BUT a sacrifice WAS necessary even for the New Covenant.
The Jews that did not believe Jesus is the Christ abandoned God.
God did not abandon them.
Those that followed Jesus became known as Christians but they were still Jews at the beginning.
I'm not discussing soteriology here.
I'm discussing how circumcision has been replaced....
but there is always SOMETHING that needs to be done to belong to a Covenant.
It's not a new idea.
Every Covenant had a sign.
The sign of the New Covenant is EITHER baptism or the Eucharist.
(depending on which Theologian is asked).
Look it up.
You are thinking God changed?
I believe that God is immutable, because otherwise you'd be saying He has room for improvement, of that he may somehow degrade, become "less than". I don't believe that to be realistic.
Much love!
Breaking the covenant was the act that initiated God to change the manner in which He cared for the humans He created. The manner in which God cares for the humans, that's the dispensation.
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Immersed into Jesus...
You've been watching to much YouTube.
Maybe you should stop watching needgod and just read your bible.
People are immersed into WATER.
In the OT
In the NT
Ezekiel 36:25 Water cleans
25 "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.
Let's ask God. The sign that we are joined to Him is the Holy Spirit within us. Would you like the references?
Much love!
Is there only ONE dispensation?
You mean every time a Covenant was broken,,,it was the beginning of a new dispensation?
Listen to you! What do you think I've been watching on YouTube?
Can't you just address the material without this silly posturing? Can you? I'd like to think so.
Much love!
So you know nothing about the Covenants...
but you want to discuss them?
Find out about the Covenants....
I taught at least 7 of them but there are more.
Then we could discuss.
[Act 1:4 KJV] 4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me................Jesus commanded the apostles to wait for the promise of the Father, which was the Holy Ghost................[Act 1:5 KJV] 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence........................The apostles would receive the Holy Ghost to empower them to be witnesses of Christ....................[Act 1:8 KJV] 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth......................you can't apply this verse to ourselves
You side step each place I point to a dispensational change. Why is that?
Much love!
IMMERSED in Jesus is a silly idea that a particular YouTuber "teaches".
We are immersed in WATER...just like in the OT and in the NT.
Baptizio means to be immersed in water.
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