Hell : Is as Real as Jesus

[Behold]

Reader...


I heard a famous preacher once say...>"The people who dont believe in hell and who teach that there is no hell, are trying to Air Condition it before they move in".....

Here are some facts about Hell.

1.) It was created before Adam was created, and it was designed to house, = "created for the DEVIL, and His Angels".

Now, the DEVIL, is the Term for SATAN, after He was cast down here, ........as in Heaven, He was Lucifer.

2.) Where is HELL found?

Its found at the end of A Christ Rejecting LIFE< and a lot of people died and went to hell, before you will finish reading my post.

Believe it.

3.) Hell is not a "trash bin" or a " burning garbage dump" located near Jerusalem. How do you know? Its because Hell was created before Adam was created and Adam was created a long time before Jerusalem was built.

4.) Another fact about Hell.

Everyone who went there today, now believes it exists, and they all now also Believe in Jesus, and this does not SAVE THEM, because you can't be born again in Hell.
Why?
Because once you are there, you now SEE that Hell is real, and now you have proof you can SEE that leads you to believe that JESUS is Real.
And that is not FAITH.
FAITH, is TRUST, and in the case of Christianity, its TRUST IN WHAT YOU CAN'T see, so your belief is from the HEART, and not from your EYES..
Understand?
So, once in Hell, you SEE that Hell exists, and that PROOF, shows you that JESUS is REAL, and that is not FAITH..

God requires FAITH, in, what you can't SEE....to save YOU.

5.) How long does Hell last?

It lasts until its cast into the Lake of Fire.

6.) How long does Eternal Damnation last....?

This.. JOHN 3:36

It lasts for as long as you are held accountable for dying as a Christ Rejector, never born again.

So, God will hold you accountable for as long as Christ lives.

7.) "but behold, my church believes that God is going to let everyone out of Hell".

And put you where? ????

Heaven?
Really?
God is going to put the CHRIST REJECTORS, who are in their SIN, next to the BORN AGAIN who Trusted in Christ, and are FORGIVEN THEIR Sin?

That will never happen. (There is no sin found in Heaven.. no sin found in the Kingdom of God). = No sinners found there...ever.

8.) Reader, there are 2 Types of Eternal Life.

One is found "in Christ" who Himself is Eternal Life, and ALL the born again are "IN Christ"..."one with GOD"..

The other type of Eternal life is the ""2nd Death"".. and what is that? That is the 1st Death continued for Eternity.

What is the first death ? = ITs to be spiritually separated from GOD, = never born again......So "2nd Death" is to never be able to be born again,.. You died never born again..... and you are that way now and for eternity, .. separated from GOD, separated from Heaven, separated from Christ.

= That is "Eternal Damnation". = That is the "2nd Death".

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Dont want to go to Hell?

You don't want to go to Hell ???????.... You are concerned about this right now?

Then turn to Christ by Faith... right now, Reader.

Yes... YOU.

= BELIEVE that you need to be forgiven, because you do, and turn to Christ by FAITH... and Let God forgive you.
He will do it for "all who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved"
"All that Believe in JESUS< shall be forgiven, shall be saved".

"but Behold, im a terrible person.. if you only knew what ive done, im so ashamed...."..

Reader, .. Listen to me..... "ALL have sinned",....... and God knows what you've done........all of it, and He says..>"COME HOME>.. You are welcome here"..."Come HOME"....."Let me forgive you"........ "Trust in my Son, and i will make you MINE.. forever and ever".

= That is God's promise, and He will do it for you Today, now.... right now.

"NOW is the day, now is the time... for your Salvation"....


- God bless you to believe it.

 

[Jack]

Reader...


I heard a famous preacher once say...>"The people who dont believe in hell and who teach that there is no hell, are trying to Air Condition it before they move in".....

Here are some facts about Hell.

1.) It was created before Adam was created, and it was designed to house, = "created for the DEVIL, and His Angels".

Now, the DEVIL, is the Term for SATAN, after He was cast down here, ........as in Heaven, He was Lucifer.

2.) Where is HELL found?

Its found at the end of A Christ Rejecting LIFE< and a lot of people died and went to hell, before you will finish reading my post.

Believe it.

3.) Hell is not a "trash bin" or a " burning garbage dump" located near Jerusalem. How do you know? Its because Hell was created before Adam was created and Adam was created a long time before Jerusalem was built.

4.) Another fact about Hell.

Everyone who went there today, now believes it exists, and they all now also Believe in Jesus, and this does not SAVE THEM, because you can't be born again in Hell.
Why?
Because once you are there, you now SEE that Hell is real, and now you have proof you can SEE that leads you to believe that JESUS is Real.
And that is not FAITH.
FAITH, is TRUST, and in the case of Christianity, its TRUST IN WHAT YOU CAN'T see, so your belief is from the HEART, and not from your EYES..
Understand?
So, once in Hell, you SEE that Hell exists, and that PROOF, shows you that JESUS is REAL, and that is not FAITH..

God requires FAITH, in, what you can't SEE....to save YOU.

5.) How long does Hell last?

It lasts until its cast into the Lake of Fire.

6.) How long does Eternal Damnation last....?

This.. JOHN 3:36

It lasts for as long as you are held accountable for dying as a Christ Rejector, never born again.

So, God will hold you accountable for as long as Christ lives.

7.) "but behold, my church believes that God is going to let everyone out of Hell".

And put you where? ????

Heaven?
Really?
God is going to put the CHRIST REJECTORS, who are in their SIN, next to the BORN AGAIN who Trusted in Christ, and are FORGIVEN THEIR Sin?

That will never happen. (There is no sin found in Heaven.. no sin found in the Kingdom of God). = No sinners found there...ever.

8.) Reader, there are 2 Types of Eternal Life.

One is found "in Christ" who Himself is Eternal Life, and ALL the born again are "IN Christ"..."one with GOD"..

The other type of Eternal life is the ""2nd Death"".. and what is that? That is the 1st Death continued for Eternity.

What is the first death ? = ITs to be spiritually separated from GOD, = never born again......So "2nd Death" is to never be able to be born again,.. You died never born again..... and you are that way now and for eternity, .. separated from GOD, separated from Heaven, separated from Christ.

= That is "Eternal Damnation". = That is the "2nd Death".

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dont want to go to Hell?

You don't want to go to Hell ???????.... You are concerned about this right now?

Then turn to Christ by Faith... right now, Reader.

Yes... YOU.

= BELIEVE that you need to be forgiven, because you do, and turn to Christ by FAITH... and Let God forgive you.
He will do it for "all who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved"
"All that Believe in JESUS< shall be forgiven, shall be saved".

"but Behold, im a terrible person.. if you only knew what ive done, im so ashamed...."..

Reader, .. Listen to me..... "ALL have sinned",....... and God knows what you've done........all of it, and He says..>"COME HOME>.. You are welcome here"..."Come HOME"....."Let me forgive you"........ "Trust in my Son, and i will make you MINE.. forever and ever".

= That is God's promise, and He will do it for you Today, now.... right now.

"NOW is the day, now is the time... for your Salvation"....


- God bless you to believe it.

Excellent!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Let's do the math.


God said no one comes to him unless he calls them.
God said, the worldly mind, natural mind, of humans cannot understand the things of God.
Those things are foolishness to such minds.
God said,only when His Holy Spirit enters into the individual are they able to then understand the things of God. Because it is given to them to understand.

God said,when His Disciples asked why He taught using parables , that it is because His teachings were given to His Disciples so they would understand. While to others, it was not given them to understand. Otherwise,they would be redeemed.

When some imagine a bottomless pit filled with fire and brimstone was created by God to receive those whom God did not intend to understand His Good News and be saved, they're reiterating what today has become a meme straight out of atheists universe.

The OT says our soul returns to God when we die.

I'll believe that.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Reader...


I heard a famous preacher once say...>"The people who dont believe in hell and who teach that there is no hell, are trying to Air Condition it before they move in".....

Here are some facts about Hell.

1.) It was created before Adam was created, and it was designed to house, = "created for the DEVIL, and His Angels".

Now, the DEVIL, is the Term for SATAN, after He was cast down here, ........as in Heaven, He was Lucifer.

2.) Where is HELL found?

Its found at the end of A Christ Rejecting LIFE< and a lot of people died and went to hell, before you will finish reading my post.

Believe it.

3.) Hell is not a "trash bin" or a " burning garbage dump" located near Jerusalem. How do you know? Its because Hell was created before Adam was created and Adam was created a long time before Jerusalem was built.

4.) Another fact about Hell.

Everyone who went there today, now believes it exists, and they all now also Believe in Jesus, and this does not SAVE THEM, because you can't be born again in Hell.
Why?
Because once you are there, you now SEE that Hell is real, and now you have proof you can SEE that leads you to believe that JESUS is Real.
And that is not FAITH.
FAITH, is TRUST, and in the case of Christianity, its TRUST IN WHAT YOU CAN'T see, so your belief is from the HEART, and not from your EYES..
Understand?
So, once in Hell, you SEE that Hell exists, and that PROOF, shows you that JESUS is REAL, and that is not FAITH..

God requires FAITH, in, what you can't SEE....to save YOU.

5.) How long does Hell last?

It lasts until its cast into the Lake of Fire.

6.) How long does Eternal Damnation last....?

This.. JOHN 3:36

It lasts for as long as you are held accountable for dying as a Christ Rejector, never born again.

So, God will hold you accountable for as long as Christ lives.

7.) "but behold, my church believes that God is going to let everyone out of Hell".

And put you where? ????

Heaven?
Really?
God is going to put the CHRIST REJECTORS, who are in their SIN, next to the BORN AGAIN who Trusted in Christ, and are FORGIVEN THEIR Sin?

That will never happen. (There is no sin found in Heaven.. no sin found in the Kingdom of God). = No sinners found there...ever.

8.) Reader, there are 2 Types of Eternal Life.

One is found "in Christ" who Himself is Eternal Life, and ALL the born again are "IN Christ"..."one with GOD"..

The other type of Eternal life is the ""2nd Death"".. and what is that? That is the 1st Death continued for Eternity.

What is the first death ? = ITs to be spiritually separated from GOD, = never born again......So "2nd Death" is to never be able to be born again,.. You died never born again..... and you are that way now and for eternity, .. separated from GOD, separated from Heaven, separated from Christ.

= That is "Eternal Damnation". = That is the "2nd Death".

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dont want to go to Hell?

You don't want to go to Hell ???????.... You are concerned about this right now?

Then turn to Christ by Faith... right now, Reader.

Yes... YOU.

= BELIEVE that you need to be forgiven, because you do, and turn to Christ by FAITH... and Let God forgive you.
He will do it for "all who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved"
"All that Believe in JESUS< shall be forgiven, shall be saved".

"but Behold, im a terrible person.. if you only knew what ive done, im so ashamed...."..

Reader, .. Listen to me..... "ALL have sinned",....... and God knows what you've done........all of it, and He says..>"COME HOME>.. You are welcome here"..."Come HOME"....."Let me forgive you"........ "Trust in my Son, and i will make you MINE.. forever and ever".

= That is God's promise, and He will do it for you Today, now.... right now.

"NOW is the day, now is the time... for your Salvation"....


- God bless you to believe it.

 

[Behold]

God said no one comes to him unless he calls them.

And the Holy Spirit who created the NT through the writers said....>"Whosover will come".. ."Whosoever will believe". "ALL that call on the name of Jesus shall be Saved"
"ALL that Believe".

Jesus explains it like this...

"If I be Lifted UP...(on the Cross) I will Draw (call) ALL people to me"...

A.) ALL means ALL

(Calvinism the lie of the Devil, teaches otherwise).

John 3:16 says.....>>"Whosoever Believes".....will be forgiven, saved, given the new birth.

"Whosoever" = Anyone.. everyone. ... ALL who will believe.

 

[BlessedPeace]

And the Holy Spirit who created the NT through the writers said....>"Whosover will come".. ."Whosoever will believe". "ALL that call on the name of Jesus shall be Saved"
"ALL that Believe".

Jesus explains it like this...

"If I be Lifted UP...(on the Cross) I will Draw (call) ALL people to me"...

A.) ALL means ALL

(Calvinism the lie of the Devil, teaches otherwise).

John 3:16 says.....>>"Whosoever Believes".....will be forgiven, saved, given the new birth.

"Whosoever" = Anyone.. everyone. ... ALL who will believe.

I know what Yeshua said.

And the disciples came, and said unto Him, Why do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but unto them it is NOT given.”
Matthew 13:10-11


That seeing they may see, and not perceived: and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted and their sins should be forgiven them. And He said unto them, Know ye not this parable? And how then will you know all parables?”
Mark 4:10-13

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I know what Yeshua said.

And the disciples came, and said unto Him, Why do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but unto them it is NOT given.”
Matthew 13:10-11


That seeing they may see, and not perceived: and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted and their sins should be forgiven them. And He said unto them, Know ye not this parable? And how then will you know all parables?”
Mark 4:10-13

It has been said 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

But I am not so sure when biblically there can be found suggested seemingly opposite ideas.

 

[BlessedPeace]

It has been said 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

But I am not so sure when biblically there can be found suggested seemingly opposite ideas.

My advice is to read the four Gospels first. Ideally in their chronological order.

 

[marks]

It has been said 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

But I am not so sure when biblically there can be found suggested seemingly opposite ideas.

Seemingly, but not actually. I've not found anything so far that is not in harmony with all the rest. Sometimes it takes some study to see it, but so far as I can tell there are no real contradictions.

Much love!

 

[Aunty Jane]

Let's do the math.


God said no one comes to him unless he calls them.
God said, the worldly mind, natural mind, of humans cannot understand the things of God.
Those things are foolishness to such minds.
God said,only when His Holy Spirit enters into the individual are they able to then understand the things of God. Because it is given to them to understand.

God said,when His Disciples asked why He taught using parables , that it is because His teachings were given to His Disciples so they would understand. While to others, it was not given them to understand. Otherwise,they would be redeemed.

When some imagine a bottomless pit filled with fire and brimstone was created by God to receive those whom God did not intend to understand His Good News and be saved, they're reiterating what today has become a meme straight out of atheists universe.

What a fiendish God they have invented..... it seems as if they fell to worshipping the fake god who rules this world and is a reflection of his evil nature. (1 John 5:19) The substitution was slick and was hardly noticed apparently...
The fact that they barred the people from reading the scriptures for themselves and fed them their evil propaganda, resulted in a whole institution that gained power over the people through fear and held them captive for centuries. With power came corruption of the most unimaginable kind.....a god who has no compunction in roasting people alive in hell for all eternity.....how is that justice? The punishment does not fit the crime.

The OT says our soul returns to God when we die.

I'll believe that.

Very interesting and honest commentary from a clergyman. He at least knows that “hell” is an invention of the church to induce fear and control, not a concept ever entertained by a God who is the epitome of justice.

Jeremiah 7:30-31....
“For the sons of Judah have done what is bad in my eyes,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. ‘They have set their disgusting things in the house upon which my name has been called, in order to defile it. 31 And they have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’”

If the Jews had fallen to this abominable practice, and God was appalled...why would he then do that to his own children?

When Solomon wrote...in Eccl 12:7...
“Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.”
What was the Jewish understanding of that statement, rather than the Christian interpretation of it?

Firstly it was the “spirit” not the “soul” that returned to God....Christendom has merged those two words as if they mean the same thing....but they are completely different as are the terms “hades” and “Gehenna” which are both translated as “hell”. English translators exhibit much bias when rendering words according to their own beliefs, rather than going to the original language words to see if the translation is accurate.

The word ”spirit” in Hebrew is “rûaḥ” which means “breath” or “wind”.....it is not a conscious disembodied soul that goes back to God. The Jews believed in resurrection, not the pagan belief in immortal souls, so when Solomon said the above, he was speaking about the resurrection of people back to this life, which involved creating a new body and putting “breath” back into that body just as God started Adam’s life by giving him “breath”. There is no such thing as an immortal soul.....souls are living, breathing creatures who all have one thing in common...the air they breathe. When animals die, they do exactly what humans do when breathing ceases.....(Eccl 3:19-20) Souls are mortal....they die. (Ezekiel 18:4)

When the foretold resurrection takes place in the future, (John 5:28-29) by means of his appointed King, God will restore the breath of life to those he resurrects. Just as Jesus restored life to Lazarus. Where was Lazarus before Jesus raised him? Jesus said he was “sleeping”. (John 11:11-14) If those in their graves are just “sleeping” then no harm or suffering can come to them....but neither are they in another realm with God. (Eccl 9:5, 10) The dead are not in a conscious state.

The truth is, God never designed humans for heaven...he created them to live forever on earth and provided the means for them to do so.....all he ever required of us humans was our obedience. Once disobedience took place, the humans were denied access to “the tree of life”, which was their only means to continue living without sin and it’s consequences of aging, sickness and death. (Gen 3:22-24)
From that day on they began to die.

The idea of an immortal soul is nothing more than the perpetuation of the devil’s first lie......”you surely will not die”......but that is not what God told Adam. (Gen 3:19) Do we understand the appeal of what satan said to Eve? That she would not die?.....in the Bible death is the end of life, not a continuation of it somewhere else. If there is no immortal soul, then the whole issue of “ a fiery hell” fails to keep people in fear. It is truly liberating. (John 8:32)
All God ever offered his people was “life or death”...never were they taught that “heaven and hell” were opposite destinations....the church invented that.

 

[Gottservant]

Hell is as real, but not as great (as Jesus).

 

[BlessedPeace]

What a fiendish God they have invented..... it seems as if they fell to worshipping the fake god who rules this world and is a reflection of his evil nature. (1 John 5:19) The substitution was slick and was hardly noticed apparently...
The fact that they barred the people from reading the scriptures for themselves and fed them their evil propaganda, resulted in a whole institution that gained power over the people through fear and held them captive for centuries. With power came corruption of the most unimaginable kind.....a god who has no compunction in roasting people alive in hell for all eternity.....how is that justice? The punishment does not fit the crime.


Very interesting and honest commentary from a clergyman. He at least knows that “hell” is an invention of the church to induce fear and control, not a concept ever entertained by a God who is the epitome of justice.

Jeremiah 7:30-31....
“For the sons of Judah have done what is bad in my eyes,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. ‘They have set their disgusting things in the house upon which my name has been called, in order to defile it. 31 And they have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’”

If the Jews had fallen to this abominable practice, and God was appalled...why would he then do that to his own children?

When Solomon wrote...in Eccl 12:7...
“Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.”
What was the Jewish understanding of that statement, rather than the Christian interpretation of it?

Firstly it was the “spirit” not the “soul” that returned to God....Christendom has merged those two words as if they mean the same thing....but they are completely different as are the terms “hades” and “Gehenna” which are both translated as “hell”. English translators exhibit much bias when rendering words according to their own beliefs, rather than going to the original language words to see if the translation is accurate.

The word ”spirit” in Hebrew is “rûaḥ” which means “breath” or “wind”.....it is not a conscious disembodied soul that goes back to God. The Jews believed in resurrection, not the pagan belief in immortal souls, so when Solomon said the above, he was speaking about the resurrection of people back to this life, which involved creating a new body and putting “breath” back into that body just as God started Adam’s life by giving him “breath”. There is no such thing as an immortal soul.....souls are living, breathing creatures who all have one thing in common...the air they breathe. When animals die, they do exactly what humans do when breathing ceases.....(Eccl 3:19-20) Souls are mortal....they die. (Ezekiel 18:4)

When the foretold resurrection takes place in the future, (John 5:28-29) by means of his appointed King, God will restore the breath of life to those he resurrects. Just as Jesus restored life to Lazarus. Where was Lazarus before Jesus raised him? Jesus said he was “sleeping”. (John 11:11-14) If those in their graves are just “sleeping” then no harm or suffering can come to them....but neither are they in another realm with God. (Eccl 9:5, 10) The dead are not in a conscious state.

The truth is, God never designed humans for heaven...he created them to live forever on earth and provided the means for them to do so.....all he ever required of us humans was our obedience. Once disobedience took place, the humans were denied access to “the tree of life”, which was their only means to continue living without sin and it’s consequences of aging, sickness and death. (Gen 3:22-24)
From that day on they began to die.

The idea of an immortal soul is nothing more than the perpetuation of the devil’s first lie......”you surely will not die”......but that is not what God told Adam. (Gen 3:19) Do we understand the appeal of what satan said to Eve? That she would not die?.....in the Bible death is the end of life, not a continuation of it somewhere else. If there is no immortal soul, then the whole issue of “ a fiery hell” fails to keep people in fear. It is truly liberating. (John 8:32)
All God ever offered his people was “life or death”...never were they taught that “heaven and hell” were opposite destinations....the church invented that.

At one time in Europe parishioners sat in pews facing away from the pulpit. Parishioners not being allowed to face the clergy giving the homily. Because the clergy were of God doing God's business. And the commoners in the pews were unworthy of witnessing this with their own eyes.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

At one time in Europe parishioners sat in pews facing away from the pulpit. Parishioners not being allowed to face the clergy giving the homily. Because the clergy were of God doing God's business. And the commoners in the pews were unworthy of witnessing this with their own eyes.

I did not know that.

Thanks

 

[Aunty Jane]

At one time in Europe parishioners sat in pews facing away from the pulpit. Parishioners not being allowed to face the clergy giving the homily. Because the clergy were of God doing God's business. And the commoners in the pews were unworthy of witnessing this with their own eyes.

Now here is another classic example of misplaced piety.....going beyond what is written to replace Bible teachings and examples with human traditions and false expectations as to what such an office meant.

The truth is, that there were no “clergy” in the first century.....no one was “ordained” to teach, like the Pharisees and the clergy of Christendom, by attending schools and ceremonies of ordination and with degrees to attest to their specific education......as if they are somehow the only ones who could teach God’s word to others. The “clergy” as a class are a product of the church, not the Bible.

Do we never wonder why Jesus deliberately chose uneducated men to preach his message and to have oversight of his sheep, like shepherds would care for a flock in their care......because the Jews had fallen victim to pride and had their titles and distinctive garments to identify them, and positions of prominence in the community.....but Jesus taught none of that. He told his disciples that ”all you are brothers”...there were no distinctions, but those who took the lead had to be spiritually qualified as Paul wrote to Timothy......

“It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do.
An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable,hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money.
He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his ownhousehold, how will he take care of the church of God?), and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil.
And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.” (1 Tim 3:1-7)

Their assistants, called deacons, also had to have the same qualifications.....but were not appointed overseers, yet they had the potential to become such as the demand arose for such qualified men to lead the congregations. They had as their role models the apostles.....the only ones taught by Jesus himself.

So these are spiritual qualifications, not educational ones. And the role of an overseer is very different to that of Christendom’s “bishops” as this word came to mean. One had to come up through the ranks and with the accepted theological qualifications in order to become a “bishop” or an “archbishop”.

The meaning of the word “overseer” here involves.....

1. investigation, inspection, visitation
   1. that act by which God looks into and searches out the ways, deeds character, of men, in order to adjudge them their lot accordingly, whether joyous or sad
   2. oversight
      1. overseership, office, charge, the office of an elder
      2. the overseer or presiding officers of a Christian church”

Do we see what happened here? Can we see what men did to the simple teachings of Jesus and what it meant to be a “Christian”? Men turned Christianity into a sad replica of apostate Judaism, complete with their distinctively dressed priesthood, pride of position, and with grand temples, none of which originated from the teachings of the one they claim to serve......

 

[BlessedPeace]

@Aunty Jane , You might enjoy this.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Seemingly, but not actually. I've not found anything so far that is not in harmony with all the rest. Sometimes it takes some study to see it, but so far as I can tell there are no real contradictions.

Much love!

I agree with you, but there are mysteries that our minds can't figure out like the Trinity, the full divine and human natures of Jesus, God's plans and ours, and others. God's mind is way above our minds.

 

[Behold]

Reader...

Try to understand that Heaven and Hell, are : Destinations..........Eternal Destinations.

They are Destinations,... ETERNAL.

1,) Originally , Hell was created for the Devil and His Fallen Angels... so, at that time, there was no ADAM.

Once Adam "fell".. once He kneeled before the DEVIL, in Obedience, by doing what God told Him not to do, then Adam became the spiritual progeny of the Devil's fallen = Nature.

2.) This is why Jesus said....>"YOU, are of YOUR FATHER.. the DEVIL... and the LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER, you shall DO".

See that?
That is Jesus talking about EVERY PERSON< who is NOT BORN AGAIN... right now.

3.) So, when you have a person, who is "of the DEVIL".. then you are talking about the SPIRIT in them, that is a part of the DEVIL's Nature.

See, the DEVIL's Nature, is : SIN.., and a Child of the DEVIL, is a : SINNER.

Listen,...

The SIN NATURE, is the DEVIL's Nature, and all who are of the DEVIL.. "will do their FATHER's LUST".

See that?
That is every unbeliever, not born again.

That was ME.. and YOU.........before you and I were born again. (and im not talking about people who are only water baptized and religious).

Im talking about the : BORN>........AGAIN........and the city water supply can't do that for you... as the NEW BIRTH< is "BY MY SPIRIT, sayeth the LORD".. and not by WATER.

A.) So, to be born again, is to CHANGE SPIRITUAL FATHERS for eternity....., and if you are never born again, the you remain for eternity "of YOUR FATHER.. the DEVIL">.... right now, and after you die, and forever.

So, you are this one............. John 3:36.... if you are not born again...

And that means that what is Originally DESIGNED for the DEVIL. = HELL and the LAKE OF FIRE...is where all unbelievers, never born again, will go when they DIE.... As that is HELL< which was CREATED for the DEVIL.
So, if he is still your FATHER, after you die, then you go to HELL.

Understand?

God does not choose this for you.........YOU chose it by dying as a Christ Rejector, never born again...

AA.) That is why Jesus said........." You MUST be born again"... as if you are not, your Spiritual FATHER is the DEVIL and you will END UP for eternity.... in the place that is designed for the Devil and His Angles, and his OWN.... who are UNBELIEVERS..... who have died, never born again...

Dont be that one...

Dont die thinking you are going to heaven because some Heretic and their Cult told you that "the water washed away your sin"..
It didnt.

See, if water could deal with your SIN, and give you forgiveness, then why did Jesus die on the Cross for your Sin?

 

[ChristinaL]

What a fiendish God they have invented..... it seems as if they fell to worshipping the fake god who rules this world and is a reflection of his evil nature. (1 John 5:19) The substitution was slick and was hardly noticed apparently...
The fact that they barred the people from reading the scriptures for themselves and fed them their evil propaganda, resulted in a whole institution that gained power over the people through fear and held them captive for centuries. With power came corruption of the most unimaginable kind.....a god who has no compunction in roasting people alive in hell for all eternity.....how is that justice? The punishment does not fit the crime.


Very interesting and honest commentary from a clergyman. He at least knows that “hell” is an invention of the church to induce fear and control, not a concept ever entertained by a God who is the epitome of justice.

Jeremiah 7:30-31....
“For the sons of Judah have done what is bad in my eyes,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. ‘They have set their disgusting things in the house upon which my name has been called, in order to defile it. 31 And they have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.’”

If the Jews had fallen to this abominable practice, and God was appalled...why would he then do that to his own children?

When Solomon wrote...in Eccl 12:7...
“Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.”
What was the Jewish understanding of that statement, rather than the Christian interpretation of it?

Firstly it was the “spirit” not the “soul” that returned to God....Christendom has merged those two words as if they mean the same thing....but they are completely different as are the terms “hades” and “Gehenna” which are both translated as “hell”. English translators exhibit much bias when rendering words according to their own beliefs, rather than going to the original language words to see if the translation is accurate.

The word ”spirit” in Hebrew is “rûaḥ” which means “breath” or “wind”.....it is not a conscious disembodied soul that goes back to God. The Jews believed in resurrection, not the pagan belief in immortal souls, so when Solomon said the above, he was speaking about the resurrection of people back to this life, which involved creating a new body and putting “breath” back into that body just as God started Adam’s life by giving him “breath”. There is no such thing as an immortal soul.....souls are living, breathing creatures who all have one thing in common...the air they breathe. When animals die, they do exactly what humans do when breathing ceases.....(Eccl 3:19-20) Souls are mortal....they die. (Ezekiel 18:4)

When the foretold resurrection takes place in the future, (John 5:28-29) by means of his appointed King, God will restore the breath of life to those he resurrects. Just as Jesus restored life to Lazarus. Where was Lazarus before Jesus raised him? Jesus said he was “sleeping”. (John 11:11-14) If those in their graves are just “sleeping” then no harm or suffering can come to them....but neither are they in another realm with God. (Eccl 9:5, 10) The dead are not in a conscious state.

The truth is, God never designed humans for heaven...he created them to live forever on earth and provided the means for them to do so.....all he ever required of us humans was our obedience. Once disobedience took place, the humans were denied access to “the tree of life”, which was their only means to continue living without sin and it’s consequences of aging, sickness and death. (Gen 3:22-24)
From that day on they began to die.

The idea of an immortal soul is nothing more than the perpetuation of the devil’s first lie......”you surely will not die”......but that is not what God told Adam. (Gen 3:19) Do we understand the appeal of what satan said to Eve? That she would not die?.....in the Bible death is the end of life, not a continuation of it somewhere else. If there is no immortal soul, then the whole issue of “ a fiery hell” fails to keep people in fear. It is truly liberating. (John 8:32)
All God ever offered his people was “life or death”...never were they taught that “heaven and hell” were opposite destinations....the church invented that.

Denial of the immortal soul is the Satanic lie

Luke 23:43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Then there is the parable of the rich man and Lazarus

Also
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

You go to be with God in heaven immediately when you die

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Life in HEAVEN. Death in the lake of fire. Its in the bible, look it up yourself. Why should we all have to do the homework for someone too lazy or afraid to do it themselves

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Reader...

Try to understand that Heaven and Hell, are : Destinations..........Eternal Destinations.

They are Destinations,... ETERNAL.

1,) Originally , Hell was created for the Devil and His Fallen Angels... so, at that time, there was no ADAM.

Once Adam "fell".. once He kneeled before the DEVIL, in Obedience, by doing what God told Him not to do, then Adam became the spiritual progeny of the Devil's fallen = Nature.

2.) This is why Jesus said....>"YOU, are of YOUR FATHER.. the DEVIL... and the LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER, you shall DO".

See that?
That is Jesus talking about EVERY PERSON< who is NOT BORN AGAIN... right now.

3.) So, when you have a person, who is "of the DEVIL".. then you are talking about the SPIRIT in them, that is a part of the DEVIL's Nature.

See, the DEVIL's Nature, is : SIN.., and a Child of the DEVIL, is a : SINNER.

Listen,...

The SIN NATURE, is the DEVIL's Nature, and all who are of the DEVIL.. "will do their FATHER's LUST".

See that?
That is every unbeliever, not born again.

That was ME.. and YOU.........before you and I were born again. (and im not talking about people who are only water baptized and religious).

Im talking about the : BORN>........AGAIN........and the city water supply can't do that for you... as the NEW BIRTH< is "BY MY SPIRIT, sayeth the LORD".. and not by WATER.

A.) So, to be born again, is to CHANGE SPIRITUAL FATHERS for eternity....., and if you are never born again, the you remain for eternity "of YOUR FATHER.. the DEVIL">.... right now, and after you die, and forever.

So, you are this one............. John 3:36.... if you are not born again...

And that means that what is Originally DESIGNED for the DEVIL. = HELL and the LAKE OF FIRE...is where all unbelievers, never born again, will go when they DIE.... As that is HELL< which was CREATED for the DEVIL.
So, if he is still your FATHER, after you die, then you go to HELL.

Understand?

God does not choose this for you.........YOU chose it by dying as a Christ Rejector, never born again...

AA.) That is why Jesus said........." You MUST be born again"... as if you are not, your Spiritual FATHER is the DEVIL and you will END UP for eternity.... in the place that is designed for the Devil and His Angles, and his OWN.... who are UNBELIEVERS..... who have died, never born again...

Dont be that one...

Dont die thinking you are going to heaven because some Heretic and their Cult told you that "the water washed away your sin"..
It didnt.

See, if water could deal with your SIN, and give you forgiveness, then why did Jesus die on the Cross for your Sin?

I agree with you!

 

[face2face]

Reader...


I heard a famous preacher once say...>"The people who dont believe in hell and who teach that there is no hell, are trying to Air Condition it before they move in".....

Here are some facts about Hell.

1.) It was created before Adam was created, and it was designed to house, = "created for the DEVIL, and His Angels".

Now, the DEVIL, is the Term for SATAN, after He was cast down here, ........as in Heaven, He was Lucifer.

2.) Where is HELL found?

Its found at the end of A Christ Rejecting LIFE< and a lot of people died and went to hell, before you will finish reading my post.

Believe it.

3.) Hell is not a "trash bin" or a " burning garbage dump" located near Jerusalem. How do you know? Its because Hell was created before Adam was created and Adam was created a long time before Jerusalem was built.

4.) Another fact about Hell.

Everyone who went there today, now believes it exists, and they all now also Believe in Jesus, and this does not SAVE THEM, because you can't be born again in Hell.
Why?
Because once you are there, you now SEE that Hell is real, and now you have proof you can SEE that leads you to believe that JESUS is Real.
And that is not FAITH.
FAITH, is TRUST, and in the case of Christianity, its TRUST IN WHAT YOU CAN'T see, so your belief is from the HEART, and not from your EYES..
Understand?
So, once in Hell, you SEE that Hell exists, and that PROOF, shows you that JESUS is REAL, and that is not FAITH..

God requires FAITH, in, what you can't SEE....to save YOU.

5.) How long does Hell last?

It lasts until its cast into the Lake of Fire.

6.) How long does Eternal Damnation last....?

This.. JOHN 3:36

It lasts for as long as you are held accountable for dying as a Christ Rejector, never born again.

So, God will hold you accountable for as long as Christ lives.

7.) "but behold, my church believes that God is going to let everyone out of Hell".

And put you where? ????

Heaven?
Really?
God is going to put the CHRIST REJECTORS, who are in their SIN, next to the BORN AGAIN who Trusted in Christ, and are FORGIVEN THEIR Sin?

That will never happen. (There is no sin found in Heaven.. no sin found in the Kingdom of God). = No sinners found there...ever.

8.) Reader, there are 2 Types of Eternal Life.

One is found "in Christ" who Himself is Eternal Life, and ALL the born again are "IN Christ"..."one with GOD"..

The other type of Eternal life is the ""2nd Death"".. and what is that? That is the 1st Death continued for Eternity.

What is the first death ? = ITs to be spiritually separated from GOD, = never born again......So "2nd Death" is to never be able to be born again,.. You died never born again..... and you are that way now and for eternity, .. separated from GOD, separated from Heaven, separated from Christ.

= That is "Eternal Damnation". = That is the "2nd Death".

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Dont want to go to Hell?

You don't want to go to Hell ???????.... You are concerned about this right now?

Then turn to Christ by Faith... right now, Reader.

Yes... YOU.

= BELIEVE that you need to be forgiven, because you do, and turn to Christ by FAITH... and Let God forgive you.
He will do it for "all who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved"
"All that Believe in JESUS< shall be forgiven, shall be saved".

"but Behold, im a terrible person.. if you only knew what ive done, im so ashamed...."..

Reader, .. Listen to me..... "ALL have sinned",....... and God knows what you've done........all of it, and He says..>"COME HOME>.. You are welcome here"..."Come HOME"....."Let me forgive you"........ "Trust in my Son, and i will make you MINE.. forever and ever".

= That is God's promise, and He will do it for you Today, now.... right now.

"NOW is the day, now is the time... for your Salvation"....


- God bless you to believe it.

The grave is real...everyone goes there!