Hell's Population Clock

[Webers_Home]

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FAQ: Human sacrifices are not allowed in the covenant that Moses' people
agreed upon with God in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy. Since Jesus was a Jew whose religion was governed by that
covenant, then how was it legal for him to die for the sins of the world?

A: The laws of God are not retroactive (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13)
This is extremely important because Jesus was designated, and scheduled,
to die on a cross prior to God creating even a single atom for the current
cosmos. (1Pet 1:18-21 & Rev 13:8)

Pop Clock Update: 3,190 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 175,756,240 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[kcnalp]

That is ignorance friend of christ truly you have shown ignorance, you defend english you should learn hebrew and see it isn't your way or my way but god's way ;D. Still your incomprenhension and maturity that i say the bible is wrong proves your childish, your just arguing that's all without truth to back you up niether. Instead of saying king james you should also try reading other versions of the bible and because your lazy. Look for the real meaning of the words of Hebrew culture I implore it to you. Kcnalp doesn't know anything he does things because he afraid and doesn't want to learn hebrew. Find hebrew and it has more info than english. ;D

You're avoiding the real issue. You are claiming to be such an expert in the Biblical Languages that you can say they are wrong and you are right. What are your credentials? Our English Bibles all say you are wrong. Disprove them!

 

[grumix8]

I did not say that i will not any anymore your just arguing just to argue

 

[kcnalp]

Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell!

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

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FAQ: How was Christ biologically related to Adam without having a biological
father?

A: The woman wasn't a discreet creation, i.e. Eve wasn't a solo specimen
constructed directly from dust like Adam was; instead, Eve was made from
already-created human material taken from Adam's body. (Gen 2:21-22)

In other words: chemically, organically, and biologically; Eve's body was just
as much the human as Adam's body; except of course for gender. (Gen 2:23)

So then, any posterity that Eve's body might engender would be Adam's
posterity just as much as they would be hers because every part of the
posterity's bodies-- including their brains --would be constructed with
material taken from their mother's body; which was, in turn, constructed
with material taken from Adam's body.

Addressing the Serpent, God said:

"I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and
her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." (Gen
3:15)

Pretty much everybody on both sides of the aisle agrees that passage
predicted Christ.

"her seed" indicates that Christ would be Eve's biological posterity; and if so,
then he would also be Adam's biological posterity because all of Eve's bodily
parts and functions were constructed of material taken from Adam's body.

There's more.

Mary's pregnancy is stated to be caused by, not an implant, rather,
caused by conception.

• Luke 1:31 . .You will conceive in your womb, and bear a son, and you
shall name him Jesus.

In order for Mary's pregnancy to be the result of conception, her body's seed
would have to be involved. Well, unless someone can prove beyond the
slightest hint of sensible doubt that Mary's body was in no way the biological
posterity of Eve's body, then we have to conclude that Eve's seed was the
origin of Mary's seed; and if so, then the origin of Mary's seed was Adam's
body.

Pop Clock Update: 3,193 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 175,921,528 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[grumix8]

here i talk about those who will be lost but god saves them look at my cartoon series because i knew there will be those questions

 

[grumix8]

here i talk about those who will be lost but god saves them look at my cartoon series because i knew there will be those questions

look at it and it explain even though gentiles did not know jesus christ he says there will be A great multitude in the end saved.
David The Modern Day Christian - Episode 2 "The Rewards Of The Law"

 

[grumix8]

Here is A solution to what your talking about and find G-d inside your heart young pups.

I made Cartoon explaining what we just talked.

 

[Alvertsky]

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†. Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
Then said one unto him: Master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the
strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

†. Mtt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to
destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and
only a few find it.

†. Mtt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

If the traditional hells are real (haides and geena) then what do the Lord's statements suggest?

Well; according to the US Census Bureau: as of Apr 12, 2012 @ 11:21 pm New York time, the resident
population in the United States was approximately 313,353,038 with a death rate of approximately one
every 13 seconds; which translates to an average of 6,646 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders
during just one 24-hour calendar day.

According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths are under the age of 19,
which would indicate that approximately 4,832 of the current daily death rate of 6,646 per 24 hours are
adults. Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by setting their maximum percentage at 51%, would
indicate a minimum of 2,464 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to
roughly 103 per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as the Lord didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the
quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: if the traditional hells were real places; then by the time
CBS completes its half-hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 51 Americans would be new
arrivals.

Using the ratio of 2,464 condemned souls per 313,353,038 population: computing the number of condemned
souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,006,673,612 people, would suggest
something like 55,096 new arrivals in one of the traditional hells every 24 hours; which translates to 2,296
souls every sixty minutes on the clock.

That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity in roughly 22 hours and 33 minutes.
In other words: if the world's condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning, then by
04:33 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

If those 24-hour numbers are fair; they suggest that 14,545,344 people of the world will be checked into one
of the traditional hells' penal colonies by the time New Year's Day 2013 rolls around.

If any of the above were true, then it would be safe to conclude that souls never stop cascading into the
dungeons of a hell 24/7 in an endless stream like candy kisses on a Hershey's conveyor belt.

Cliff
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Copy and paste is easy

But do you actually have a point

 

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There are people in this world who, by nature, are affection-challenged.
They can't even feel anything for their own children, let alone other people.
For them, parenting is a nightmare rather than a dream come true. Their
children are a burden rather than a blessing. Children ruin those parents'
lives instead of brightening them up and making their lives more worth the
living.

However, affection-challenged people aren't damaged beyond repair because
Christianity isn't entirely a do-it-yourself religion; it's also a supernatural
religion; viz; part of the plan of salvation is renovation.

• Rom 8:11 . . If the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in
you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal
bodies through His spirit, who lives in you.

• 2Cor 4:16 . .Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are
being renewed day by day.

Pop Clock Update: 3,197 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 176,141,912 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[grumix8]

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There are people in this world who, by nature, are affection-challenged.
They can't even feel anything for their own children, let alone other people.
For them, parenting is a nightmare rather than a dream come true. Their
children are a burden rather than a blessing. Children ruin those parents'
lives instead of brightening them up and making their lives more worth the
living.

However, affection-challenged people aren't damaged beyond repair because
Christianity isn't entirely a do-it-yourself religion; it's also a supernatural
religion; viz; part of the plan of salvation is renovation.

• Rom 8:11 . . If the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in
you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal
bodies through His spirit, who lives in you.

• 2Cor 4:16 . .Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are
being renewed day by day.

Pop Clock Update: 3,197 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 176,141,912 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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romans chapter 2 verse 13 to 16 says A people are saved by their own conciousness still saved, instead of saying the hell clock statement of how much people are dead invite people church become A tool to help others. You have all the time to do it, preach the word and more were saved just posting doesn't do it. Preach the word it isn't fair so many are left out when everyone can do so much if they help ;-;. Put things in the lord hand's.

 

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Insensitive folk who come from the womb unable to feel compassion, are in
very grave danger of the sum of all fears.

• Matt 5:7 . . Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

• Jas 2:13 . . For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no
mercy.

As an experiment, keep an ear attuned for people who respond to the news
of someone's misfortune by saying "It could've been worse." That's a
sympathy challenged person.

NOTE: There are a number instructional web sites offering lists of helpful
do's and don'ts to assist sympathy challenged people to at least react
properly to other's misfortune.

Pop Clock Update: 3,200 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 176,307,200 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.

NOTE: Compared to the Federal Debt's trillions of dollars, and the covid 19
relief's billions, 176.3 million may not seem like all that much, but in
footage, it comes to 33,391 miles, which is 1.24 times the Earth's equatorial
circumference. Driving that distance at 55mph nonstop would take 25.3
calendar days of 24 hours each.
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The world death toll thus far due to the Coronavirus is in the neighborhood
of 2,280,990.

That represents approximately .0294% of the world's recent population of
7,740,955,811 people, which is not even one percent; in point of fact, a
good deal less than one percent.

In the future, Heaven will cause the world to turn on itself in an apparent
attempt to self-destruct with weapons, disease, famine, and wild animals
that will cause fully 25% to perish; i.e. one fourth. (Rev 6:7)

If perchance the world's population in that day is the same as now, then
1,935,238,953 people will lose their lives before the calamity is over; in
other words: 1.93 billion. That's something like 848 times the number of
world coronavirus deaths thus far.

Pop Clock Update: 3,220 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 177,409,120 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[Taken]

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The Bible's hells are penal colonies where people exist in conscious afterlife
suffering in flame and perpetual dehydration.

Cliff
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Agree with your general concept.

As forward thinking that people could get a glimpse of the reality of hell...

We have Scriptural Testimony of men who experienced Seeing their version...

Outside of the City of Jerusalem is a Valley, called Hinnom (Hebrew/ Ghenna)...
There were men who burned their children alive in that valley as supposed living sacrifices.
The sight of the Fires;
The hearing of the Screams;
The smell of the putrid Stench of Burning Flesh;
The emotional feelings...
Was indeed their imagined Verion of what Hell is like.

2 Chr 28:3

 

[grumix8]

Hell is not ral but something invented like gehenna, he will come and rise the dead and will be judged.

 

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• Rev 8:7 . . The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and
fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the
earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green
grass was burned up.

Although that event is depicted as something completed already, it's actually
yet future. The apostle John wrote of something he was shown; like
describing a movie.

The Greek word translated "grass" includes not only lawns and pastures, but
also crops; particularly cereals, i.e. those farmed primarily for their grain;
e.g. corn, wheat, oats, rye, and rice; et al.

Apparently their destruction isn't beyond recovery because grasses show up
again in a later calamity. (Rev 9:4)

The purpose seems to be the destruction of one whole year's worth of global
harvest. That could be very bad for 3rd world folk who live hand to mouth,
viz: those whose very survival depends upon regular yields.

The cost of grain will already be in a state of inflation prior to the global
destruction of the grasses (Rev 6:6). The calamity described in Rev 8:7 will
surely drive up the cost of food even higher; possibly to the point where
quite a few people around the world won't be able to get enough to eat as
often as they'd like.

One third of all trees are slated for destruction too; which no doubt will
affect not only those used for lumber, but also fruit trees, e.g. fig, orange,
apple, apricot, prune, peach, cherry, banana, and olives etc; along with a
number of those that produce nuts.

Pop Clock Update: 3,237 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 178,345,752 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[Gregory]

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Actually, Rach, I don't think more effort would make a difference in those
numbers. The majority would still be lost and I honestly think 51% is on the
low side. Let me show you what I mean.

†. 1Cor 16:22 . . If anyone love not the Lord, let him be accursed.

Does a Muslim have to be a terrorist to be cursed? No; they only have to be
a Muslim; same goes for Atheists, Nonreligious, Baha'i, Buddhists, Chinese
Universalists, Confucianists, Jains, Kabbalah mystics, Shintoists, Spiritists,
Taoists, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, and Hindus— they're all cursed.

How many people am I talking about? Well, as of mid 2009, worldwide there
were 7,305,000 Baha'i, 483,821,000 Buddhists, 454,579,800 Chinese
Universalists, 6,446,890 Confucianists, 935,460,000 Hindus, 5,669,000
Jains, 1,523,212,150 Muslims, 2,782,800 Shintoists, 24,222,700 Sikhs,
13,810,000 Spiritists, 8,849,700 Taoists, 181,650 Zoroastrians,
639,907,110 Nonreligious, and 138,777,200 Atheists.

The grand total from that list is 4,245,025,000 non Christians (and that's
not counting Kaballah mystics). The population of the world in mid 2009 was
approximately 6,776,763,237 people. Those 4,245,025,000 people
represented roughly 63% of the world; and that's not even counting all the
Christians who are Christians in name only. It's my guess that the tares
easily outnumber the wheat.

Note: I have to count Muslims because the Lord said salvatioton if of the Jews
rather than the Arabs. (John 4:22) and that he is the truth rather than
Muhammad (John 14:6) and to believe in him and God rather than in
Muhammad and Allah. (John 14:1)

Cliff
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Hades is a temporary hell. In the scriptures it is referred to as the "spirit prison" visited by the Savior after he died on the cross and was resurrected. (1 Peter 3: 18-19)

Gehenna is the permanent hell, for the devil and his minions who followed him down from heaven after the war in heaven. (Revelation 12) And for a few mortals that do not bow their heads and confess Jesus.

Billions of people have not heard of the name of Jesus and therefore it would not be fair just to throw them in a permanent hell. I believe that is why Jesus went to Hades and unlocked those prison doors to those who would hear his voice and bow down and confess his name and repent and live his commandments. They were allowed to go from the spirit prison to paradise, where Jesus took the thief on the cross after the crucifixion.

Jesus does not want billions of his people to languish in some prison cell for eternity. He will do all that he can to keep his people out of Gehenna, the permanent hell. His mercy is wide and deep.

 

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Righteousness and Justification are spoken of together in Rom 5:18 the
same as they are in Rom 3:21-24. So then, if perchance someone is
fortunate to obtain the righteousness, then they will automatically obtain the
justification that goes along with it.

FYI: Righteousness pertains to innocence, and Justification pertains to acquittal.

For example: former US President Donald Trump was recently accused of
insurrection. His accusers in the Senate failed to convict him, i.e. the
majority voted for his innocence and consequently he was acquitted.

This is what God has done for some of us; except that He has declared us all
guilty rather than innocent (Rom 3:23). However; via our faith in Jesus'
blood as an adequate propitiation for our sins, God granted us a gratuitous
adjudication of innocence, and consequently an acquittal. It's all spelled out
in Rom 3:21-28.

The first prayer I prayed that made some sense contained the words below:

"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's
death"

My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but it was the smartest sixteen words
I'd ever spoken up to that time.

Pop Clock Update: 3,241 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 178,566,136 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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[kcnalp]

Hell will be filled with those who don't believe in Hell.

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

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• Rev 13:15 . . He was given power to give breath to the image of the first
beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image
to be killed.

That passage, taken from the book of Revelation, speaks of an oppressive
regime.

To give an idea of the possible number of deaths that passage speaks of, it's
only necessary to compare historical administrations similar to it. For
example:

Russia's Bolsheviks and Joseph Stalin: 20 million

China's Mao Tse-tung: 40 million

North Korea's Kim Jong-un and Kim Jong-il: 3½ million

Cambodia's Pol Pot: 3 million

TOTAL: 66½ million

Those millions of people didn't lose their lives via foreign invasion. No, they
lost their lives due to execution and starvation by the governments of their
own countries who managed to condemn many of their citizens as traitors
and/or enemies of the state; so it's easy to see that Rev 13:15's prediction
isn't irregular but actually a fairly common practice among repressive
governments within which there are few to zero checks and balances in
place to prevent human rights abuses.

Pop Clock Update: 3,254 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 179,282,384 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012.
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