Historical lipstick memories: Ladies, do you wear your lipstick with confidence and satisfaction?

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Historical lipstick memories: Ladies, do you wear your lipstick with confidence and satisfaction?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • No

    Votes: 3 75.0%

  • Rather not say

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Butterfly

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brakelite said:
I am not denigrating anyone. I am just offering a challenge and asking the question. Who do we represent? Why is it that we now before modern society in order to meet their standards. The ads in magazines and on all manner of media constantly bombard our women folk with the message... You are not good enough without my help. You are not pretty enough. You are not slim enough. So we get bolemics and all manner of self esteem issues throughout society. suicides result. But God says, come to me as you are. And I will recreate you from the inside out... And you won't need to bother about the outside.
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Yes, I agree with what you convey, and it's getting worse for the younger generation with regards to acceptance. I equally think men are being bombarded to - have you noticed how many more ads there are for male skin care/ hair / shaving products and perfume ect. However the root of the problem, with low self esteem , often establishes itself in childhood with signals from culture/ education/ peers / family - long before make up is even a thought. I do believe endeavouring to conform as you get older makes the inner issues so much bigger though.
I guess I equally interpreted your earlier post to mean that women wearing makeup is degrading in and of itself , and therefore completely and utterly a sin to wear it.
Rita
 
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"ByGrace" said:
Just being picky here. :)

She was not a daughter of a king...she was a farmers daughter. A peasant.
She came to fame when in 1415, King Henry V of England invaded northern France. And she felt called of the Lord to rise up and defeat him etc etc..

Just saying.. :D
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Yes, that's why I used her in my sarcastic comment. A very brave lady who followed her convictions x
 
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I would just like to add something, not sure it's in context of this thread or not. If a women stops wearing make up because she is told that she is not honouring the Lord, or ' being worldly ' it doesn't suddenly mean that her low self esteem is corrected. Coming to faith is the start of a journey, the Lord changes a person from the inside out - and as that person grows and changes many things are seen in new light.
I challenge any Christian to prove that they have not conformed to the world in one way or another - the very fact that we are all chatting on a forum through a computer , laptop or iPad is proof itself that we have conformed to the technology that ' the world ' has created. It's distracting, meets an inner need to connect ect.
I will stop waffling now !
Rita
 
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Butterfly said:
I would just like to add something, not sure it's in context of this thread or not. If a women stops wearing make up because she is told that she is not honouring the Lord, or ' being worldly ' it doesn't suddenly mean that her low self esteem is corrected. Coming to faith is the start of a journey, the Lord changes a person from the inside out - and as that person grows and changes many things are seen in new light.
I challenge any Christian to prove that they have not conformed to the world in one way or another - the very fact that we are all chatting on a forum through a computer , laptop or iPad is proof itself that we have conformed to the technology that ' the world ' has created. It's distracting, meets an inner need to connect ect.
I will stop waffling now !
Rita
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Unconscious guilt and slow burning anxiety is the driver....it says, i don't look good enough, i don't feel good enough. Wanting to feel better than is felt without coming clean drives people to take the quick fix bait ie drink, drugs, instant gratification and pretence in all its shades including appearance.
Salvation is not only from the consequence of sin ie death but also from its power. Guilt no longer drives those submitted to God....unless the dog goes back to its vomit and the sow that is washed back into the mud.
Overcoming is in our interest in the present. Living without guilt delivers a freedom that the world and or its religious system does not know about let alone duplicate.
 
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Butterfly said:
I would just like to add something, not sure it's in context of this thread or not. If a women stops wearing make up because she is told that she is not honouring the Lord, or ' being worldly ' it doesn't suddenly mean that her low self esteem is corrected. Coming to faith is the start of a journey, the Lord changes a person from the inside out - and as that person grows and changes many things are seen in new light.
I challenge any Christian to prove that they have not conformed to the world in one way or another - the very fact that we are all chatting on a forum through a computer , laptop or iPad is proof itself that we have conformed to the technology that ' the world ' has created. It's distracting, meets an inner need to connect ect.
I will stop waffling now !
Rita
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When we make a change to what we put on [be it make up, or cologne or clothes or whatever] the best reason would be that God spoke to our heart. Unfortunately as you have indicated, this is often not the reason at all. What other people think about us does too often affect our thinking and our action and/or our inaction in some greater or lesser measure. Perhaps that will never stop completely, but we should always be approaching the point where our every thought and action or inaction is related directly to pleasing and obeying God. Sometimes, however, we may not even know the best way to go on a thing. This is why it is so very important for us to hear His voice and to obey it. One important thing, as I see it, is to never stop seeking His face no matter how good we may believe our vision to be already.

How much like God are we able to become? The limit to that does not lie in God, but in you or in me.

Too often people doing things according to what they say is or believe is God's will for them, but what if they are really missing something important? The good thing about this is that God is always looking at our intentions as well as the black and white letter of the law as seen by our behavior according to any man's judgment. What is right for one, may well be wrong for another in the eyes of God. God always knows the difference and if we are in doubt will He make it clear for us if that is that important to Him?
 
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Some good thoughts here recently.

But seems we have come a very long way from the historical perspective of the suffragettes in the OP. :)
 
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Butterfly said:
I would just like to add something, not sure it's in context of this thread or not. If a women stops wearing make up because she is told that she is not honouring the Lord, or ' being worldly ' it doesn't suddenly mean that her low self esteem is corrected. Coming to faith is the start of a journey, the Lord changes a person from the inside out - and as that person grows and changes many things are seen in new light.
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Hi, Ms. Rita: I guess it can be said that applying it to the lips in a sense gives a focus of confidence and an awareness of formality on special occasions. I guess it says: I think this occasion is special enough for me to give care and attention beforehand to my being present.

Yes, in faith the inward takes precedence over the outward, but applying it presumably is not incompatible with faith.
 
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Butterfly said:
I do not agree that it is totally wrong to wear make up. I agree about the Sunday morning fashion show in some churches, but many would say they do it for the Lord.
I do not believe that Esther did what she did for vanity
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Esther needed to put it on herself, didn't she? (She probably had the best specialists help her look good.)
 
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Farouk, I have to be completely honest here. I don't have any idea what it means to wear lipstick "with confidence."
 
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