How Confidant Are You Being Saved?

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How Confident Are You Being Saved on a scale of 1-10; 10 being totally confident?


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please explain

and these too

redemption
justification
sanctification
perseverance
death
judgement
eternal salvation

thks
I am not going to rewrite the Scriptures as you have persistently done here.
Multiple people have already tried to converse with you and you are obstinate and refuse correction.
You are stubborn and implacable.
Besides which, you can't even observe simple grammar rules of writing.
Get a dictionary: all those words are in a good one like Webster's 1828 Dictionary of the American Language.
 

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Right here, Paul writes to the church and was confident that all were partakers of the same salvation grace Paul had from God, that they had peace and love from God our Father ( if you be born again of God, then He really is your Father) and from the Lord Jesus Christ, who always prays for us to God the Father of us all.

Think likewise on these things
The One who began the good work in you is God. God always finishes what He started, nothing He does is in vain, He accomplishes His purposes in the earth.

1 Paul and Timothy, the servants of Jesus Christ, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

2 Grace be unto you and peace from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,

4 always in my every prayer for you all making request with joy,

5 for your fellowship in the Gospel from the first day until now,

6 being confident of this very thing, that He who hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the Day of Jesus Christ.

7 It is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart, inasmuch as, both in my bonds and in the defense and confirmation of the Gospel, ye are all partakers of my grace.

8 For God is my record how greatly I long for you all in the compassion of Jesus Christ.

9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment,

10 that ye may approve things that are excellent, and that ye may be sincere and without offense until the Day of Christ,

11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
 
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Paul contrast the wicked and the saved right here, which are you?
Do not fulfil the lusts of the flesh
Do not be conformed to this world cause this world is going into the fire.
Those who are saved have a high calling in Christ.


Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you indeed is not grievous to me, but it is a safeguard for you.

2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the Concision.

3 For we are the Circumcision who worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh—

4 though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath grounds to trust in the flesh, I have more:

5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; according to the law, a Pharisee;

6 concerning zeal, persecuting the church; as to the righteousness before the law, blameless.

7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted as loss for Christ.

8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and count them but dung, that I may win Christ

9 and be found in Him, not having mine own righteousness which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith,

10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto His death,

11 that if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

12 It is not as though I had already attained it, nor were already perfect; but I follow after, that I may apprehend that for which Christ Jesus also apprehended me.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended it, but this one thing I do: forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as would be perfect, be thus minded; and if in anything ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

16 Nevertheless, however much we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark those who so walk, as ye have us for an example.

18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often and now tell you even with weeping, as the enemies of the cross of Christ.

19 Their end is destruction, their God is their belly, and their glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

20 For our abiding is in Heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

21 who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.
 
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This is a question I hate. Advocates say you should be 100% confidant but that doesn't seem humble to me.

How confidant are you? What does that say about your humility?
I am 100% sure that I belong to Jesus. However, I recognize that there are many who are also 100% sure but belong to some cult with damnable heresies. Recognition of that causes me to understand that I can also be deceived even if I am sure. Paul mentioned the TERROR of the Lord...this is ignored by many

2 Co 5:10-11
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men...


A humble hope is nothing to be scoffed at.
 
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I am not going to rewrite the Scriptures as you have persistently done here.
Multiple people have already tried to converse with you and you are obstinate and refuse correction.
You are stubborn and implacable.
Besides which, you can't even observe simple grammar rules of writing.
Get a dictionary: all those words are in a good one like Webster's 1828 Dictionary of the American Language.
just cos I don't accept your tradition does not make me obstinate

you can ask me anything

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Right here, Paul writes to the church and was confident that all were partakers of the same salvation grace Paul had from God, that they had peace and love from God our Father ( if you be born again of God, then He really is your Father) and from the Lord Jesus Christ, who always prays for us to God the Father of us all.

Think likewise on these things
The One who began the good work in you is God. God always finishes what He started, nothing He does is in vain, He accomplishes His purposes in the earth.

1 Paul and Timothy, the servants of Jesus Christ, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

2 Grace be unto you and peace from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,

4 always in my every prayer for you all making request with joy,

5 for your fellowship in the Gospel from the first day until now,

6 being confident of this very thing, that He who hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the Day of Jesus Christ.

7 It is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart, inasmuch as, both in my bonds and in the defense and confirmation of the Gospel, ye are all partakers of my grace.

8 For God is my record how greatly I long for you all in the compassion of Jesus Christ.

9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment,

10 that ye may approve things that are excellent, and that ye may be sincere and without offense until the Day of Christ,

11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
is salvation grace a one time thing?

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Right here, Paul writes to the church and was confident that all were partakers of the same salvation grace Paul had from God, that they had peace and love from God our Father ( if you be born again of God, then He really is your Father) and from the Lord Jesus Christ, who always prays for us to God the Father of us all.

Think likewise on these things
The One who began the good work in you is God. God always finishes what He started, nothing He does is in vain, He accomplishes His purposes in the earth.

1 Paul and Timothy, the servants of Jesus Christ, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

2 Grace be unto you and peace from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,

4 always in my every prayer for you all making request with joy,

5 for your fellowship in the Gospel from the first day until now,

6 being confident of this very thing, that He who hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the Day of Jesus Christ.

7 It is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart, inasmuch as, both in my bonds and in the defense and confirmation of the Gospel, ye are all partakers of my grace.

8 For God is my record how greatly I long for you all in the compassion of Jesus Christ.

9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment,

10 that ye may approve things that are excellent, and that ye may be sincere and without offense until the Day of Christ,

11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
what is the purpose of our being created?

thks
 
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Paul contrast the wicked and the saved right here, which are you?
Do not fulfil the lusts of the flesh
Do not be conformed to this world cause this world is going into the fire.
Those who are saved have a high calling in Christ.


Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you indeed is not grievous to me, but it is a safeguard for you.

2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the Concision.

3 For we are the Circumcision who worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh—

4 though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath grounds to trust in the flesh, I have more:

5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; according to the law, a Pharisee;

6 concerning zeal, persecuting the church; as to the righteousness before the law, blameless.

7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted as loss for Christ.

8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and count them but dung, that I may win Christ

9 and be found in Him, not having mine own righteousness which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith,

10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto His death,

11 that if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

12 It is not as though I had already attained it, nor were already perfect; but I follow after, that I may apprehend that for which Christ Jesus also apprehended me.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended it, but this one thing I do: forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as would be perfect, be thus minded; and if in anything ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

16 Nevertheless, however much we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark those who so walk, as ye have us for an example.

18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often and now tell you even with weeping, as the enemies of the cross of Christ.

19 Their end is destruction, their God is their belly, and their glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

20 For our abiding is in Heaven, from whence also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

21 who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.
how are we saved?

is it possible that to be saved and fulfill the deeds of the flesh?

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can you rob banks?
murder the gaurds?
waste the money on drunkenness and sin with whores & prostitutes?

die unrepentant and go directly to the glory of heaven?

thks
thats the claim of the tv evangelists you accepted Christ or gave your heart to Christ what ever is the popular phrase these days, then they you are a new creation, passed from death to life etc. and quote "there is nothing more you need to do"!

some say nothing more you can do, one guy on the John Ack show said we are saved and our behavior CANNOT affect our salvation in any way!

thks
 

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how are we saved?

is it possible that to be saved and fulfill the deeds of the flesh?

thks
And you hath He quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

2 wherein in times past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.

3 Among these also we all had our manner of living in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love wherewith He loved us,

5 even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ (by grace ye are saved),

6 and hath raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God—

9 not by works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath beforehand ordained, that we should walk in them.
 
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Advocates say you should be 100% confidant but that doesn't seem humble to me.
Believing All Of God's Word And Having FULL Assurance Of It is not humbling Toward God?
I am 100% sure that I belong to Jesus. However, I recognize that there are many who are also 100% sure but belong to some cult with damnable heresies.
Leaving those cults And humbly studying God's Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided Should Bring The Following, eh?:


"That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of
the Full Assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of The Mystery of God,
and of the Father, and of Christ;" (Colossians 2:2 AV)​


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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.
 

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Believing All Of God's Word And Having FULL Assurance Of It is not humbling Toward God?

Leaving those cults And humbly studying God's Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided Should Bring The Following, eh?:


"That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of
the Full Assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of The Mystery of God,
and of the Father, and of Christ;" (Colossians 2:2 AV)​


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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.
Yes, leaving the teachings of groups that teach that the words of Jesus have no meaning for us today.