How do conservative evangelicals reconcile their support for Trump with Trump’s sinful lifestyle?

[BlessedPeace]

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[Ziggy]

I catch a rally now and then. The last one I watched was the Iowa Caucus.
You have to admit the dialogue of his message never strays very far from the last one.
And I've heard a lot of them.
Thank you for sharing. I'll catch up with it somewhere along the line, no doubt lol.

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[rebuilder 454]

Nope.

Name a promise he did not follow through on.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Look at all the proof, Zig ...the elites have placed every president for decades. Your votes don't count. We don't have a Godly man or woman fit for any office. It's all Babylon. I won't have ANY PART of it ... and they have NO PART of ME. NONE.

If america falls into the hands of the dem agenda, the free world falls.
To not vote for trump is to have blood on your hands.

 

[rebuilder 454]

He said he was the chosen one.

LOL
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Actually he said no man can save america.
He SAID only Jesus can.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Nearly 100% of our "founding fathers" were freemasons whose god was lucifer.... that is still the case today. All you have to do is look at the architecture of DC, and every state town square has symbolism that lets each other know who they really serve...

I believe there will be a remnant ......after judgment.

Wow
What a sad view of our country you have.

 

[Ziggy]

I don't know if anyone here is following the Agenda 2030 groups through the UN.
Sustainable Development aka: New Geen Deal.
They have a lot of Ideas how they believe they should control the world for all of us.

‘We Reject Globalism.’ President Trump Took ‘America First’ to the United Nations​

For years, President Donald Trump made the claim that the United States had become a laughingstock around the world. So it came as a bitter irony Tuesday that the whole world laughed at him during the U.N. General Assembly when he made the audacious claim that his Administration was more accomplished than almost any other in U.S. history.

“I didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s OK,” Trump responded while smiling. But laughter quickly turned to uneasy silence as Trump launched into a 35-minute attack on the very values at the heart of the UN — solidarity, globalization, and respect for international institutions and international law.

“We reject globalism and embrace the doctrine of patriotism,” Trump said in a clear rejection of the half-century old international institutions that emerged from the devastation of World War II. It was a declaration of the supremacy of sovereignty, and the idea that all nations should embrace their own versions of his “America First” foreign policy approach.

From there, Trump’s speech went around the globe reprimanding ungrateful allies, lambasting bad trade deals and criticizing other agreements that enabled the world to take advantage of America. “The U.S. will always choose independence and cooperation over global governance, control and domination,” he said, defending his Administration’s retreat from U.N. organizations like the International Criminal Court, Human Rights Council and a global compact on migration.

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[Wrangler]

From there, Trump’s speech went around the globe reprimanding ungrateful allies, lambasting bad trade deals and criticizing other agreements that enabled the world to take advantage of America.

Greatness before our very eyes!

He has the courage to speak the truth, hold people and entire nations accountable for the sole reason of putting his people first. This is why people like me love him without reservation or apology.

Regarding the OP; Trump's sinful lifestyle was in the past and minor. Bill Clinton and Joe Biden raped and sexually assaulted women before becoming President. Hillary turned the State Department into a money laundering crime syndicate. Where was the outrage and questions of how anyone can support them?

Trump was merely promiscuous with willing partners. The question reveals a double standard. In the final analysis, a person's morals matters much, MUCH less than his stand on public policy. We are not electing saints in the meaning of purity. Trump is a saint in the Biblical sense and that is more than one can say for Hillary, Obama or Biden.

 

[Ziggy]

An Alternative Candidate for Democrats.

I find it VERY undemocratic that the DNC will not allow debates among many of the challengers to Joe Biden.
Our Democracy allows ALL We the People to vote for whom we believe will serve US best.
So Yesterday, a candidate for US President named Dean Phillips gave a speech at a Town Hall.
And if you didn't get to hear it, Here it is:

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[Ziggy]

The problem with both parties is they believe they have given us only 2 choices.
It's either Biden or it's Trump.
And this isn't how this country works. This is how the establishment works, but not We the People.

You have as many choices as are running. Listen to all of them. Choose the candidate that you believe will best serve Us as a whole nation.
Not just one side ot the other. But one Nation United under policies and laws we can all agree on.
If that means we have to start over, then sobeit.
If we need another party or no party to speak for US then sobeit.
This is OUR country and it's not up to Their choices. Those choices belong to Us.

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Some have pulled out of the race. But I believe you could still write them in if you chose.
I didn't X those photos out, they just won't load.
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[Naomanos]

An Alternative Candidate for Democrats.

I find it VERY undemocratic that the DNC will not allow debates among many of the challengers to Joe Biden.
Our Democracy allows ALL We the People to vote for whom we believe will serve US best.
So Yesterday, a candidate for US President named Dean Phillips gave a speech at a Town Hall.
And if you didn't get to hear it, Here it is:

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I'll have to do more research on him.

 

[Ziggy]

I'll have to do more research on him.

DECLARED OCT. 27, 2023

• Age
  55
• Birthplace
  Saint Paul, MN
• Residence
  Wayzata, MN
• Previous presidential campaigns
  None
• Offices held
  U.S. Representative from Minnesota's 3rd district (2019-present)
• Education
  Brown Univeristy (BA), University of Minnesota (MBA)

About the candidate​

Dean Phillips, a three-term congressman and former CEO, has been critical of Joe Biden’s bid for reelection and has raised concerns about the president’s age and his lackluster approval ratings. When asked about his plans in August, Phillips said "My real call to action right now is not about me. The call to action is to ask the president to pass the torch." Phillips has already missed the filing deadline to participate in the Nevada Democratic Primary, one of the first nominating contests of 2024.

Campaign positions​

• “Enhance public safety” through increased funding for police departments and first responders “for up-to-date training practices and access to necessary equipment, and for mental health services for community members and first responders alike.” [Source]
• “Supports comprehensive immigration reform, including enhanced border security, a pathway to citizenship for those here now, and a streamlined process for those seeking to enter the country legally.” [Source]
  
  
• “Believes patients—not politicians—should have the freedom to make personal decisions about their own health, including when it comes to reproductive health.” [Source]
  
  
  
  You can start here.
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[Ziggy]

 

[Ziggy]

I personally am voting for Trump. I've seen his record, I've lived under his economy. I've seen his interactions with all kinds of people.
I believe in his policies, His stance on Soveriegnty.
I'm not looking for a Pastor or a Priest. I am looking for a Leader that speaks for We the People.
Even other people in other countries and their sovereignty as well.

But I have no problem listening to other candidates no matter what "party" the letter before their name implies.
I'm listening to the person, not the color of their affiliation or the color of their skin.

I would even be open to a split ticket for President and Vice President.
Now that would be what democracy looks like.
In my opinion.
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[Naomanos]

DECLARED OCT. 27, 2023

• Age
  55
• Birthplace
  Saint Paul, MN
• Residence
  Wayzata, MN
• Previous presidential campaigns
  None
• Offices held
  U.S. Representative from Minnesota's 3rd district (2019-present)
• Education
  Brown Univeristy (BA), University of Minnesota (MBA)

About the candidate​

Dean Phillips, a three-term congressman and former CEO, has been critical of Joe Biden’s bid for reelection and has raised concerns about the president’s age and his lackluster approval ratings. When asked about his plans in August, Phillips said "My real call to action right now is not about me. The call to action is to ask the president to pass the torch." Phillips has already missed the filing deadline to participate in the Nevada Democratic Primary, one of the first nominating contests of 2024.

Campaign positions​

• “Enhance public safety” through increased funding for police departments and first responders “for up-to-date training practices and access to necessary equipment, and for mental health services for community members and first responders alike.” [Source]
• “Supports comprehensive immigration reform, including enhanced border security, a pathway to citizenship for those here now, and a streamlined process for those seeking to enter the country legally.” [Source]
  
  
• “Believes patients—not politicians—should have the freedom to make personal decisions about their own health, including when it comes to reproductive health.” [Source]
  
  
  
  You can start here.
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Liking what I see so far.

 

[Wrangler]

The problem with both parties is they believe they have given us only 2 choices.
It's either Biden or it's Trump.
And this isn't how this country works. This is how the establishment works

A flaw of the Constitution is the winner take all system. The Founding Father's did not have the benefit of centuries of experience that we have that a parliamentary system would prevent polarizing and serve the broader interests of the constituents.

 

[Ziggy]

A flaw of the Constitution is the winner take all system. The Founding Father's did not have the benefit of centuries of experience that we have that a parliamentary system would prevent polarizing and serve the broader interests of the constituents.

They had a lot of foresight, but they couldn't see everything.
I believe they did a good job with what they had.
And that's why it's written in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that WE the People decide if this form of government id helping us or failing us. And if it is failing, it is the duty of the citizens to change it.
There are a lot of things in the Constitution that could cleaned up and adjusted to agree with this modern world.
But the basics of Life Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness should never change.
We the People should never give up our power to a few to rule over us, but rather to serve us and make this a better place for All.

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[Big Boy Johnson]

Wow! Mr Stardust has been doing lots of research!

 

[Spyder]

I think we have seen what happens during presidential elections when people "write in" candidates. I guess that serves personal gratification, but what is the effect? When was the last time a write-in candidate won? In my view, the elections always end up between two opposing candidates, and I will choose the want to is actually American and serves all Americans and not their mega-donors.

 

[Taken]

I decided to start this discussion thread because I dislike how so many evangelical Christians fervently support Donald Trump. Indeed, their support for the guy is unwavering and often fanatical, a description that is by no means hyperbolic. A cursory glance at the life of Trump demonstrates that he is a deeply sinful man. One such example is that he has been married three times, having divorced two wives already, and it gets worse: All three women were betrayed including his third wife, Melania. During Trump’s third marriage, he slept with an aged porn star and paid her hush money to keep the affair a secret (which didn’t turn out too well for him).

To be clear about something: I am not arguing whether or not Trump is a sincere Christian. That isn’t the topic of this discussion. My opinion is that, while Trump pays lip service to the evangelical political positions to court their votes, he is only saying what he must say to garner support, get the right-wing votes, and ultimately get what he wants: Another shot at being POTUS for four more years. Obviously Trump’s so-called faith in Christ exists only insofar as it benefits his political career. That is why there aren’t any accounts of him being a regular church-going Christian.

When Donald Trump lost the 2020 Presidential Election to Joe Biden, something truly terrible ensued: An insurrection at the White House. Trump supporters stormed the place, bringing with them Confederate flags, many of them armed, and some people died. It was truly a national disgrace.

Granted Trump didn’t give any specific orders to overthrow the White House. But consider the nature of his speech: It was vindictive with victimhood written all over it, and there was an implicit assumption of violence. Inciting an insurrection indirectly is still inciting an insurrection! Fortunately there are over a dozen states that are now trying to keep the insurrectionist off the ballot so he doesn’t become president again, and hopefully dozens more states will follow suit.

Jesus has been nicknamed the Prince of Peace because he taught love, mercy, compassion, kindness, and all the great heavenly virtues. How do Evangelical Christians reconcile Jesus’ pacifism with their support for Trump, a notorious insurrectionist? Jesus also taught lifetime monogamy in Matthew 19:8-9. How do Evangelical Christians reconcile Jesus’ teaching about marital faithfulness with Trump's serial betrayals against all three of his wives?

You sound connected by repeating the taking points of Ms….uh Catholic she / he homosexual Maddow.

BTW…attending a Church does not make a person more or less Faithful…
AND…the Capitol Building is NOT the White House. LOL
AND…when did Divorce become a sin?