How do you know you are "saved" or "not saved"

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Thank you, old friend and brother in Christ. In the Spirit, I am doing well. My flesh is however on a downhill slide... but the end is not yet.

Give God the glory!
Well, the same here: New heart valve, pacemaker, three bypasses.
Still managed to ride motorcycle up the Alaska Highway, crossed BC and Alberta!
Not bad for 77 years old. Must be that army training still in me, thank God.
Thank God for doctors, nurses and all the rest.
 
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horse puckey, wadr...
or i mean. advocate accepting Christ with your mouth if you like, but id be ware k

Just consider me, according to one, ready for the "naughty step" as a tongue talker for more than 45 years. People can argue against it and have done so in the past, but it is one of those things that is a part of my walk with God. I speak only for myself.
 
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Hmm that's a grey area because although Paul never banned tongues outright he did say-
"..I would rather have you preach" ( Cor 14:5)
So by disobeying him, tongue-speakers are candidates for the naughty step..;)
1Co 14:5
I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
 
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Probably also the same as far as "healing" is concerned.
After all He said "The same Yesterday, Today and Forever"

Well.. Jesus Christ the same, yesterday, today and forever.. isn't about healing and miracles etc.. it's about his unerring nature and promises. Again.. the context is key. It's not a verse that stands alone. The context isn't about signs, miracles and wonders.
 

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Just looking for opinions on this subject.
What is the evidence?
Are you sure?

1 Timothy 4:10

English Standard Version

10 For to this end we toil and strive,[a] because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
 

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Of course there are false converts.. I was talking about genuine conversion. Millions and millions of converted people out of billions and billions.. isn't that much :)
guess i would need a definition of “converted,” but most/virtually all of the converts i am aware of fall under the blind leading the blind
 

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Oh, I see.
And what are His "nature and promises" ??
(Heb 13:3) Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.
(Heb 13:4) Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
(Heb 13:5) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
(Heb 13:6) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.
(Heb 13:7) Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
(Heb 13:8) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
(Heb 13:9) Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

Look at the context here-- nothing to do with signs, miracles and wonders.. but the reliability and consistency of Jesus through His Word.
Jesus being the same helper through all we learn and strive.
 

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How do you know you are "saved" or "not saved"​

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1) Salvation IS an Offering from God.

2) The Offering IS for God to “Promise” to SAVE a “soul” that was entered into a man via, Gods Power.

3) The “SAVING”;
....a) alive forever with God
....b) from without God and ultimately destruction
....c) a soul, IN or OUT of the body can be “WITH” or “WITHOUT” God.
....d) anything (body, soul, spirit) without God...(living or not) is DEAD to God.

3) The SOUL is a vessel (it belongs to God)

4) The LIFE in the SOUL (is Gods Breath, and belongs to God)

5) The WAY and ORDER (ie Gods Conditions TO HAVE a SAVED SOUL)
...a) BODY MUST die. (Gen 9:5) / (1 Cor 15:36)
...b) Body’s (natural) Life (mortal Life) IS Blood.
...c) Body’s (natural spirit) Life IS mans natural TRUTH thoughts in his HEART.
...d) Body’s (natural mind) IS Carnal (truth, lies, deceptions, guessing, unsure, deceiving, Logical thoughts in his BRAIN.

6) Gods ORDER...
...natural birth (from mans seed) formed within water, comes forth from water.
.a) parallels Earth was IN water, Created taken via God, came forth from water.
.b) parallels Earth was brought forth Made, dry land)
...
Body formed IN womb, IN water surrounding, attached to mothers, blood life
...Body forming finished....born.
...Soul with Gods Breath via God, blown into formed man-Kind of being.

7) mans WAY..body with soul IN it is called ( A person)
...natural born...does not know God, thus can not Believe IN God.
...Disbelief IN God is called...AGAINST God...called corrupt...called SIN.
...Soul in body called...without God...called corrupt..
...Body...without God...called corrupt.
...Corrupt...without God...is called SIN...

8) Gods ORDER and WAY
...hear about God
.......God Gifts FAITH to a man HEARING Gods Word
.......Hear a little, receive little Faith
.......Hear a lot, receive larger measure of Faith.

9) Believe what you hear...Gods Spirit “WILL BE WITH YOU”.
...DOUBT, Not Believe.......God Spirit “WILL LEAVE YOU”.
(caution; WITH does not mean IN)

10) WARNINGS...Many Powerful evil spirits roam the Earth searching for humans NOT hearing Gods Word, Doubting Gods Word...expressly INTENDING to “encourage ones DISBELIEF”, by, through, of clever antics.

11) WARNINGS...Many Powerful, Popular, Influential wicked men present on Earth or having left behind their works of writing...expressly INTENDING to “encourage ones DISBELIEF”, by, through, of psychological manipulation.

12) Gods WAY
...Hear...Hear more...Hear more...BELIEVE...Receive FAITH from God.
...PREPARED...
...ACCEPT Gods Offering.

12) BELIEVE in your Heart....ON THE DAY, MOMENT, your BODY DIES...and you SHALL be soul SAVED, AT THAT MOMENT.

**** NEWSFLASH***
**** NEW...BETTER...TESTAMENT OFFERING ****
(Heb 7:22)

1) Salvation Offering of one’s SOUL....BEFORE MORTAL DEATH!!
2) A “heartful” (mans natural spirit truth, in his hearts thoughts)
........Highlight......Order and Way....
3) BELIEVE in ones Heart “AND” CONFESS with his word, his BELIEF!!!!

4) ding, ding, ding......SALVATION given that man....THEN?

5) DID YOU ALREADY FORGET....UPFRONT....DEAD BODY REQUIREMENT TO RECEIVE SALVATION?

Oh, yeah...that.

6) DID YOU ALREADY FORGET...THIS IS A NEW BETTER, assured TESTIMONIAL OFFERING?

7) Crucified WITH Christ Jesus!

What’s that?

8) Voluntarily (Without force), the individual:
...a) acknowledges his own standing SIN, against God (having HAD disbelief)
...b) requests FORGIVENESS.
...c) Promises his BODILY LIFE (blood), unto ONLY the Lord God.
...d) Lays does his SPIRITUAL LIFE (truth in his natural heart) unto DEATH.

AND? The Lord God Himself....(remember test all things?) Searches that mans Natural spiritual truth in that mans Heart.

AND? IF. That mans CONFESSION (IS from his hearts thoughts AND True...

9) That man “RECEIVES”...assurance of What God OFFERED.
...a) Forgiven
...b) Saves the mans soul...(forever that soul will retains Gods Breath of Life)
...c) Forever that mans soul...SHALL be with God, God with that man.
...d) That body...already recorded as given dead, promised to the Lord God ....(Lambs Book of Life)
...e) That body...washed in Jesus’ Blood. (Justified)
...f) That body...set aside kept with Christ (Sanctified)
...g) That body...internally overcome with Gods Light (forgiven SIN Covered)
...h) That body...receives old natural vessel heart cut off (Circumcision)
...i) That body....receives new vessel (heart)
...j) That body....receives new Seed (Gods SEED, mans spirit, BORN Again/ ie. Quickened)
...k) That body....receives Spirit of God IN new Heart (Gods Spirit of Truth).
...l) That SOUL, SPIRIT, BODY... marked (sealed only unto the Lord God)
..m) That SOUL, SPIRIT, BODY... recorded name, Remains written, not blotted.
(Gods Book of Life)
..n) That SOUL, SPIRIT, BODY... accounted never can AGAIN die.(Overcome)
..o) That SOUL, SPIRIT, BODY... accounted Gods Inheritance (son of God).
..p) That SOUL, SPIRIT, BODY...NOT appointed to WRATH.
..q) THAT SOUL, SPIRIT, BODY...can SIN (stand Against God in Disbelief) NEVER AGAIN. (1 John 3:9)

WHEN...Gods Anger increases, multiplies, WAXES HOT, (angry at the Earth corruption, angry at mens Rejection of Him)...He AGAIN shall send down HIS Tribulations AND Wrath upon the Earth...AND its inhabitants....WHO:
* Believe...but failed to repent, confess AND promise their bodily life, be converted.
* Reject Belief.
* Encourage Disbelief

BEFORE...Gods sends down from Heaven....His Tribulations AND Wrath...
* As in the days of Noah..(who was raised UP above the face of the earth, above the mountains tops to the clouds....)
(Gen 7:17)
(Gen 7:20)

* So ALSO SHALL...the BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT...of a Converted man IN Christ,
Be raised UP above the face of the earth to the clouds...
(1 Thes 4:16)
(1 Thes 4:17)

How does one KNOW IF they are SAVED?

By WHAT THEY individually FREELY CHOOSE TO DO, according TO:
Gods order and way (requirement).


Glory to God,
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1 John 5:11 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
 

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1 John 5:11 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

 

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guess i would need a definition of “converted,” but most/virtually all of the converts i am aware of fall under the blind leading the blind

Converted .. means they have truly believed Jesus is God..that He died and rose again and by believing in Him they have eternal life.

Full stop. No water baptism, no works.
 
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Converted .. means they have truly believed Jesus is God..that He died and rose again and by believing in Him they have eternal life.

Full stop. No water baptism, no works.
ya, so, id hate for you to take this wrong, God bless 'em, but those are ezackly the ones im talking about
lost as two boys kissing, imo :}
(by "eternal" you mean "forever," right?)
that is wadr the biggest lie, not supported anywhere in Scripture, not one single place,
and the only reason we are taught that is bc if they taught Scriptural truth, no one would give them their money!

you got just what you paid for imo, best of luck to you
 
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ya, so, id hate for you to take this wrong, God bless 'em, but those are ezackly the ones im talking about
lost as two boys kissing, imo :}
(by "eternal" you mean "forever," right?)
that is wadr the biggest lie, not supported anywhere in Scripture, not one single place,
and the only reason we are taught that is bc if they taught Scriptural truth, no one would give them their money!

you got just what you paid for imo, best of luck to you
People might also consider this:
Jas 2:19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Are believing devils also saved?
 
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