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  1. friend of

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    As the astute denizens of this site have already pointed out, keeping His commandments is surely the most central way to follow the greatest commandment.

    I will divulge how I have failed to keep this great commandment and we can contrast. Below are a list of ways I have failed--

    1) Failing to trust God. To trust his plans and timing.
    2) Feeling like His will isnt enough. Trying to have my way instead.
    3) Breaking the commandment of loving thy neighbor as thyself. The second greatest commandment is related to the first.
    4) Being fretful, anxious, fearful of the future. Indicating a lack of trust and peace.
    5) Seeking alternative or worldly passions and joys instead of making God the source of all my joy and peace.
    6) Being angry or irritated with God. Feeling like God owes me something.
    7) Seeking out the world, the pride of life.
    8) Failing to apply the teachings of his word in daily life. Being a forgetful hearer and giving in to my desires.
     
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    9) completely ignoring Jesus' sendings, and going to Luby's instead!
     
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    I absolutely am not suggesting that James is contradicting Paul, or indeed the Lord Jesus. I can't imagine how you have come to that conclusion. James 2:10 and Romans 10:3-4 are in complete harmony with each other.

    Try again.
     
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    :) Isn't it great that we have a Saviour?
     
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    The need of Jesus cannot be overstated.
     
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    It's kept 'naturally', just as a branch naturally bears fruit by being part of the fruit tree.
    A song by the legendary Daniel Amos group said it well...

    No bribin', no conivin', no strivin' will do
    They'll never make no change in you
    You can hold your breath, stand on your head
    Still the changes won't come, till the Spirit led
    Abidin', that's when the changes come
    Abide in Jesus, He's the best at gettin' it done (Chorus)

    Now, a Christian brother who's name was Ben
    Had a real bad problem, seemed without end
    His impatience, at times, got the better of him
    So he tried many methods like countin' to ten
    Still, the harder he tried, the harder it got
    Till his face would go red, and he cuss a lot
    He'd confess his sin and forgiveness came
    But then Ben would go out and do it again
    What the ol' boy needed was delivery
    And only God's Spirit could set him free
    Ben began to abide like a branch to the Vine
    Now deliverance is his every time

    Now, sister Sue had a problem, too
    Though not like Ben, she kept her cool
    But when it came to gossip, man, that gal could rap!
    She found it hard to say something kind
    Wound up hurtin' someone every time
    With a juicy story, she just couldn't shut her trap
    But Sue found the secret of takin' God's rest
    And instead of makin' promises and doin' her best
    She lets the Lord take that tongue control
    Now, instead of sowin' distrust and discord
    She's so busy talkin' about the Lord
    That she ain't got time to talk about so and so

    source: Abidin' Lyrics by Daniel Amos - Lyrics On Demand
     
  8. Hidden In Him

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    Ok, finally getting back. The question I'm proposing is what does oneness with God look like. You used the word "formulate," which brought to my mind a systematized approach to holiness and fulfilling the greatest commandment, and while I did not believe in some lifeless "program" not guided by the Holy Spirit, I do believe fulfillment of the "You shall love the Lord your God with your whole heart, your whole mind, your whole soul and your whole strength" will manifest in certain behaviors and a certain lifestyle. More specifically, I think it will be characterized by a life of prayer, worship, study of the word, and service unto God.

    Let me go into a little more detail. I fast quite often, or at least more than the average Christian I believe. Do I do so in a systematized manner? No. The Geek Orthodox fast twice a week, as did the Jews during NT times. I can't die that and don't feel led to. Instead, as the Spirit leads me, I will go on longer fasts. I was adding it up, and I fast close to 100 days out of the year now (it's sill below that, but approaching more now). Twice a week for 52 days in a systematized fashion would be 104 days a year. Do I think it should be systematized where everyone has to fast on the same days. NO, absolutely not. But do I believe fasting is yet another thing that should characterize the life of the believer? Yes (granted there are some who can't, so I didn't include it in my original list).

    Do you not believe that prayer, worship, study of the word and service unto God would be common characteristics in the lifestyle of someone who was fulfilling the greatest commandment?
     
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    Excellent answer : )
    Also good. This fleshes out the response Brakelite had just a little. He said something similar, and I agree. I would classify this under service to God, in that we are seeking to minister His grace unto others.
     
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    I still get a good laugh out of this one :D. Some people might call that "being a smart ass," but we don't use language like that around here... <still laughing> :p
     
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    Blessings in Christ, 101G, and glad you responded. Now I hate to be disagreeing with you here, but I actually think they are two separate commandments. If not, He would have included them in one. The second is man-centered, whereas the first is God-centered, and I think John was appealing to his readers not to think they were fulfilling the first if they were blatantly disobeying the second. I do agree that fulfilling the second is ONE of the means of fulfilling the first, but there are also many others which have nothing to do with how we treat men. Prayer and worship and study of the word for instance are devotions of our mind heart and soul more exclusively to Him alone.

    But you have a good thought in proving what others have said: That fulfilling the second is one of the ways we can fulfill the first.
     
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    This is a similar response to what Episkopos posted, Scott. So I think here I would direct you to the question I asked him in Post #48 (if you wish to answer it).
     
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    Ok, a serious one this time. Same response here as what I was driving at with Episkopos. How then would you answer Post #48? Would you refer to the practices I mention there as "the righteousness of God," yes or no?

    God verses, btw.
     
  14. Hidden In Him

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    I like this answer, Giuliano, and you put it even more eloquently maybe than some of the others who presented a similar viewpoint. But how would you answer Post #51, then?
     
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    I like the last line especially. Scripture teaches the same thing. Certainly some can be comforted by emotional love, and need it desperately. But in many other instances talk can be cheap, as in saying "Go. Be warmed and filled," yet they don't do anything for the body.

    So what would be your response to Post #51?
     
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    GINOLJC, to all
    First we must dfiasgree with you. for God is manifested in all men, when one Love one another they are Loving God. supportive scripture,Matthew 25:32-40 "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:" 33 "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left." 34 "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:" 35 "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:" 36 "Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me." 37 "Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?" 38 "When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?" 39 "Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?" 40 "And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

    the second is like unto the first because it's the same command, "TO LOVE YE ONE ANOTHER", for God is LOVE.

    but thanks for the invite. good day.
    PICJAG.
     
  17. Hidden In Him

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    These would all fall under the heading of what I call service unto God, i.e. ministry, which I do believe is a vital part of keeping the greatest commandment.
    I totally agree.
    This is more in line with what I was getting to. How would you respond to Post #48?
     
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    Thanks for the response, Truth. As I've been asking others, what then would be your response to Post #51?
     
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    To do this post justice would require more time than I have, atm. It breathes scripture.

    I'll try to get you a response later on, Amadeus, and thanks so much for responding : )
     
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    You yourself, and thanks for participating. Have a blessed one!
     
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