How Jesus has ALREADY Reconciled Us and the World unto God.

[Robert Pate]

You do teach that, its a sign of a false witness

Only according to your Calvinist religion.

Of all of the religions, Calvinism is the worst. You really need to sit down with your Bible and ponder all of the scriptures that refute your phony religion. Calvinism is anti-Gospel and anti-Christ. Worse of all it eliminates the judgment. No need for a judgment if you have been predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. You are going to be in for a shock when you find out that you are still in your sins in the judgment.

 

[brightfame52]

Only according to your Calvinist religion.

Of all of the religions, Calvinism is the worst. You really need to sit down with your Bible and ponder all of the scriptures that refute your phony religion. Calvinism is anti-Gospel and anti-Christ. Worse of all it eliminates the judgment. No need for a judgment if you have been predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. You are going to be in for a shock when you find out that you are still in your sins in the judgment.

You teach a mixture of universalism and lose your salvationism. Thats mass confusion, a sure sign of doublemindedness,

James 1:8

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

 

[JunChosen]

Only according to your Calvinist religion.

Of all of the religions, Calvinism is the worst. You really need to sit down with your Bible and ponder all of the scriptures that refute your phony religion. Calvinism is anti-Gospel and anti-Christ. Worse of all it eliminates the judgment. No need for a judgment if you have been predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. You are going to be in for a shock when you find out that you are still in your sins in the judgment.

As I've already asserted, that there many (including yourself) who do NOT understand the concept of salvation.

Now read and learn...."[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
Romans 8:1.

To God Be The Glory

 

[JunChosen]

@Robert Pate :

Oh the calvinistic, elected, predestined and chosen by God ppl make a mockery of God's grace and love to WHOSOEVER WILL,LET THEM COME TO JESUS FOR SALVATION !

Read and weep.... "There is none that seeks after God, no, not one."
Romans 3:11.

ONLY those in Matthew 1:21 will seek the Lord!!

To God Be The Glory

 

[brightfame52]

Only according to your Calvinist religion.

Of all of the religions, Calvinism is the worst. You really need to sit down with your Bible and ponder all of the scriptures that refute your phony religion. Calvinism is anti-Gospel and anti-Christ. Worse of all it eliminates the judgment. No need for a judgment if you have been predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. You are going to be in for a shock when you find out that you are still in your sins in the judgment.

You teach the lost of Salvation, the overthrow of the Death of Christ. See to be reconciled to God by the Death of Christ is to be saved, and you say people can lose it and perish.

 

[Robert Pate]

As I've already asserted, that there many (including yourself) who do NOT understand the concept of salvation.

Now read and learn...."[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
Romans 8:1.

To God Be The Glory

And just how do we become "In Christ"? Paul tells us, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (which is the Gospel) Romans 10:17. On the day of Pentecost 8,000 Jews heard Peters Gospel and were born again, Acts 2:41 and Acts 4:4.

 

[Robert Pate]

You teach the lost of Salvation, the overthrow of the Death of Christ. See to be reconciled to God by the Death of Christ is to be saved, and you say people can lose it and perish.

I didn't say that. Your Calvinist God said that. He will say and do anything to keep you from the truth.

 

[brightfame52]

@Robert Pate

And just how do we become "In Christ"

By Divine Election which took place before the foundation of the World Eph 1:4

God the Father Sovereignly put the Elect in Him 1 Cor 1:30

30 But of him[The Father] are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

 

[brightfame52]

I didn't say that. Your Calvinist God said that. He will say and do anything to keep you from the truth.

Yes you did, dont be dishonest, you said Christ death reconciled all humanity to God, then you said, if we dont receive it, we will be lost.

 

[JunChosen]

And just how do we become "In Christ"? Paul tells us, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (which is the Gospel) Romans 10:17. On the day of Pentecost 8,000 Jews heard Peters Gospel and were born again, Acts 2:41 and Acts 4:4.

Not so! To be "in Christ" the Father must draw you, call you, and predestine you to salvation.

There were only 3,000 saved at Pentecost and about 15 different nations gathered. It's truly a wonder that you can't read Scripture well and your posts shows your lack of understandings.

To God Be The Glory

 

[marks]

John 12:30-33 KJV
30) Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31) Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32) And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33) This he said, signifying what death he should die.

And in fact He WAS crucifed (lifted up - idiom), and therefore He draws all men unto Himself.

Before His death, Jesus said the only ones who came to Him were whom the Father drew. That changed with the cross.

Much love!

 

[JunChosen]

John 12:30-33 KJV
30) Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31) Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32) And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
33) This he said, signifying what death he should die.

And in fact He WAS crucifed (lifted up - idiom), and therefore He draws all men unto Himself.

Before His death, Jesus said the only ones who came to Him were whom the Father drew. That changed with the cross.

Much love!

I don't believe The Father has one rule and Jesus another!!

The word "men" is italicized in the KJV meaning, it is not in the original manuscript. The word "All" does NOT mean everyone, otherwise there will no one be in Hell!!

To God Be The Glory

 

[marks]

I don't believe The Father has one rule and Jesus another!!

The word "men" is italicized in the KJV meaning, it is not in the original manuscript. The word "All" does NOT mean everyone, otherwise there will no one be in Hell!!

To God Be The Glory

No, there were not two conflicting rules. The Cross changed things.

Being drawn is not the same thing as being reborn.

Much love!

 

[Robert Pate]

@Robert Pate



By Divine Election which took place before the foundation of the World Eph 1:4

God the Father Sovereignly put the Elect in Him 1 Cor 1:30

30 But of him[The Father] are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4. Jesus is God's new Adam and our new humanity. "If any man be "In Christ" he is a new creation" 2 Corinthians 5:17. We become new creations by hearing and believing the Gospel. "So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" (which is the Gospel) 8,000 Jews became Christians on the day of Pentecost because they heard and believed Peter's Gospel, Acts 2:41 also Acts 4:4.

 

[brightfame52]

God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4. Jesus is God's new Adam and our new humanity. "If any man be "In Christ" he is a new creation" 2 Corinthians 5:17. We become new creations by hearing and believing the Gospel. "So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" (which is the Gospel) 8,000 Jews became Christians on the day of Pentecost because they heard and believed Peter's Gospel, Acts 2:41 also Acts 4:4.

More false gospel. Now you preach #1 Universalism, #2 All humanity is Gods Elect, #3 all Humanity is saved and reconciled to God, #4 and man can lose His Salvation, Election, Reconciliation if he doesnt believe it.

 

[Robert Pate]

More false gospel. Now you preach #1 Universalism, #2 All humanity is Gods Elect, #3 all Humanity is saved and reconciled to God, #4 and man can lose His Salvation, Election, Reconciliation if he doesnt believe it.

You are misquoting me. What I said is that God has provided salvation for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. When you hear what I said Your Calvinist God stops your ears and makes you believe that I said something else.

 

[brightfame52]

You are misquoting me. What I said is that God has provided salvation for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. When you hear what I said Your Calvinist God stops your ears and makes you believe that I said something else.

You teach #1 Universalism #2 You teach a reconciled person and saved person can lose their salvation and go to hell if they dont believe, #3 You teach everyone in the world is Chosen in Christ. You one confused cookie.

 

[Robert Pate]

You teach #1 Universalism #2 You teach a reconciled person and saved person can lose their salvation and go to hell if they dont believe, #3 You teach everyone in the world is Chosen in Christ. You one confused cookie.

That makes God divisive tyrant. It is not possible for you to believe what you do about God and be saved.

 

[brightfame52]

That makes God divisive tyrant. It is not possible for you to believe what you do about God and be saved.

Thats what you teach lol, that men are reconciled, then lost if they dont believe.

 

[Robert Pate]

Thats what you teach lol, that men are reconciled, then lost if they dont believe.

No, that is what your Calvinist God wants you to believe that I said.

All that call on Christ to save them are eternally saved, Romans 10:13. Nothing can separate them from the love of God that is in Jesus Christ.