How many coming of Jesus?
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2Timothy3:16&17
1John2:27
Jesus is our Good Shepherd who shepherds His lambs and sheep personally.
It's no longer like the Old Testament being shepherd by 'hired shepherds'.
Who did Jesus select to be Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Did all the Apostles agree ?
Gal 2:7-9 :)
Why are you surprised?
No brainer, the scripture explains clear as day that the 'anointing' is in us to learn All Scripture = Holy Bible and don't need a teacher.
Davy
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Of course Paul taught the 'same' idea that Christ and His Apostles taught with the one Gospel of Jesus Christ, to believe on the death and resurrection of Lord Jesus for the remission of sins, and then His command to get baptized (Romans 10:8-13 and many other verses in Paul's Epistles; John 3:16; Mark 16:16, in The Gospel Books, with many other verses of the like, etc.)
The confusion between The Gospel as taught by Lord Jesus and His Apostles vs. Paul only happened with the start of the 1800's pre-trib rapture theory. That theory wrongly separates the nation of Israel from Christ's Church in order to create more support for the false idea of a rapture prior to the coming great tribulation. It's from John Darby's Dispensationalist theories.
What Paul showed simply was that Peter would take The One Gospel to the Jews, and Paul would take the same One Gospel to the Gentiles. The "mystery" is about that, Paul's stewardship in The One Gospel to the Gentiles, which up to that point in time no one in Israel understood. Yet per Acts 9, Lord Jesus also said He made Paul His "chosen vessel" to take that same Gospel to kings, AND... to the children of Israel. Even with the beginning of Paul's Ministry his preaching The Gospel was inside the Jewish synagogues to both Jews and Gentiles.
Not a hard question.
Here, try again :)
Who did Jesus select to be Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Did all the Apostles agree ?
Gal 2:7-9 :)
Then these questions will be very easy for you to answer :)
Who did Jesus select to be Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Did all the Apostles agree ?
Gal 2:7-9 :)
The chosen 12 and commissioned them to go and make disciples of all nations, and baptize them.
They were ministering their Gospel majoritively to Gentiles in all nations, way before Paul became a believer in middle of the book of Acts.
End of discussion.
Last one for the road, by which Gospel, Cornelius a Gentile among many not recorded, was saved??
You didn't answer the question :)
Who did Jesus select to be Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Hint >> Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Who did all the Apostles agree that Paul would teach ?
Hint >> Gal 2:7-9
David Lamb
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Yet soon after Paul's conversion, we have these words of God to Ananias about Paul:
NKJV Act 9:15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.
So although he was appointed to take the gospel to Gentiles, that doesn't mean that he didn't also preach to his fellow Jews.
Similarly, Peter was commanded by God to preach to a Gentile, Cornelius. Anyway, Jesus spoke these words to all the apostles:
Mrk 16:15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature."
Anyway, Jesus spoke these words to all the apostles:
- List the verses where Jesus taught Mark 16:15 to Paul
- When did you last take up serpents, drink a deadly thing, cast out devils etc ?
Can you even do that ?
If not, then you are not one of them that believe.
Mk 16:17-18
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
David Lamb
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Sorry, what has that got to do with whether or not Paul only preached to Gentiles? Are you saying that all Jews who became Christians were literally able to take up serpents, drink a deadly thing, cast out devils etc.?
You said
Anyway, Jesus spoke these words to all the apostles: Mrk 16:15 And He said to them,"
Show where Jesus taught Paul Mrk 16:15 :)
David Lamb
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Clearly He didn't. Paul was not even a Christian at the time Jesus spoke the words of Mark 16:15. But that doesn't mean that he did not hear such teaching. After all, it is very similar to the words God spoke to Ananias concerning Paul:
NKJV Act 9:15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.
Act 9:16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."
Anyway, Jesus spoke these words to all the apostles: Mrk 16:15 And He said to them,"
Then he would have also taught v 16&17 and since you are a believer CLEARLY referenced to in those 2 verses you too are able to cast out devils, handle snakes, poisons etc :)
Are you now stating these 2 verses do not apply to you ?
Mk 16:17-18
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
David Lamb
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The context is that He was speaking to the apostles. Did He mean that no Christian, ever, would suffer from snake-bites or poison, and that every Christian in all times would cast out devils, speak with new tongues, cause the sick to recover? I believe that these signs were granted to the earliest Christians as confirmations of the gospel they preached, at a time when the Bible was as yet incomplete. As John Gill wrote in his commentary on verse 17:
"And these signs shall follow them that believe,.... Not all of them, but some; and not always, only for a time; and which were necessary for the confirmation of the Gospel, and the establishment of Christianity in the world; and not only believing hearers, but believing ministers of the word, are chiefly designed; and this is said, for the encouragement both of those that preach the Gospel, and of them that hear, believe and obey. The Persic version, contrary to all others, reads, "ye shall show signs and wonders to them that believe not";".
Was that YES those verses apply to you or NO they don't ?
Mk 16:17-18
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
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