What is a logical deductive step? This is the 3rd and the last time I have asked. I prefer to argue with people who can think and write logically.I explained it to you last time.
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What is a logical deductive step? This is the 3rd and the last time I have asked. I prefer to argue with people who can think and write logically.I explained it to you last time.
What is a logical deductive step?
We’ve already been down this road,Tony,I noticed you never answered my question about what it means to be Born Again of imperishable seed and how would I know that I have been Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed?When was the last time you sinned?
I prefer to argue with people who can think and write logically.
See What does it mean to be born again?I noticed you never answered my question about what it means to be Born Again of imperishable seed
Exactly....a Born Again has been Born Again by The Spirit Of God...Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed...Its not meaningless, if you are not born again.
If you are not born again, then do what it says.
However as doctrine, its not for the Believer, as their Sin has been dealt with by Jesus..
I think we need to see it for what it isIts not meaningless, if you are not born again.
If you are not born again, then do what it says, @Eternally Grateful ...
However as doctrine, its not for the Believer, as their Sin has been dealt with by Jesus..
1.) "God hath made Jesus to be Sin for us".
2.). "Jesus is the ONE TIME... .ETERNAL..... Sacrifice for Sin"..
If you are born again, then John's verse that explains the born again is 1 John 3:9
See, what you are not understanding is ...
A.) WHAT IS, the "born again" "Son/Daughter" of God, and Why are they NOT Under the Law, which use to define them as a sinner and their carnality as sin".
Amen!!...as soon as I became Born Of The Spirit,a supernatural spiritual rebirth...as a sinner I was under the law, now I’m under Grace..Praise God.It was the last time she was under the Law
I think we need to see it for what it is
John said “if we”.
Exactly....a Born Again has been Born Again by The Spirit Of God...Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed...
Only the Spirit can testify that with our spirit........man can’t make themselves Born Of The Spirit..
Exactly...I understand what you are saying, because its being preached in the Spirit/ by the Spirit who indwells you....Yes..
Jesus said to us .. "YOU must be born again"
And we can't do that....
Only God can..
= The Holy Spirit births the BELIEVER, into the Spirit of God, as "born .., again".. Spiritually.
This is to become "in Christ"... 'One with God"...,. "a New Creation"... = Son/Daughter of God.
So your telling me the whole of the NT is spoken to lost people?Let me show you what you dont realize.. @Eternally Grateful .
The Apostles, were PREACHERS...
THey Preached to lost people.
Understand?
Your Wrong.So, there are times when you read then doing this..... @Eternally Grateful
And perhaps, you've never been to a Church service, where the Preacher is giving an "alter Call".
So, when a Preacher (Apostle)(Evangelist)(*Missionary) (Teacher) is trying to lead people to Christ...
They will say......
"We"..... but they mean YOU.
For example... "If We willfully sin"..... is an example of an Apostle in Hebrews talking to Christ Rejectors.
He says "we" but he means "THEM".
So, when a preacher is talking to a group, He will be inclusive, and say..>"We all need to be born again", and in Fact He was born again 56 yrs ago.
He doesn't need to be born again.........THEY DO... but he says "WE"..
AND sometimes, when you deal with people who are Atheist's or a Gnostic, .. they will say...."there is no such thing as sin.
A Scientologist will tell you that..
So, you would say...'Now, listen if we say WE have no sin"..
See that?
So, the Apostle John does not have sin........ THEY have it.......but he says "WE" because that is what Preachers do, when leading people to Christ.
Exactly...I understand what you are saying, because its being preached in the Spirit/ by the Spirit who indwells you....
Makes the enemy very mad...again, the carnal mind wouldn’t understand what you are saying either.
Exactly, we have those spiritual eyes and ears imo/ belief...and agree with the rest of your postSpiritual Ears hear Spiritual teaching.
The inner eyes that a born again person has, become enlightened when they hear LIGHT being taught.
Those who dont have those ears, hear Truth as Noise.
They have no inner connection to it.
Zero.
So how does one come to faith in the gospel. If they have to be born again first?Spiritual Ears hear Spiritual teaching.
"Those who have EARS to hear".
You have to be born again to have those "ears", and that ability to "Hear".
A.) That is Spiritual DISCERNMENT,
The inner eyes that a born again person has, become enlightened when they hear LIGHT being taught.
"LIght: = "Truth" = Revealed by the Holy Spirit in the "inner man".
Those who dont have those ears, hear Truth as Noise.
They have no inner connection to it.
Zero.
Amen! In Philippians 2:12, Paul said to "work out" your salvation (not to be confused with) "work for" your salvation. When we "work out" at the gym, we exercise to develop our body that we already have and not in order to get a body. Farmers "work out" the land, not in order to get the land, but to develop the land they already have.They are working out what they have. So God can use them..
It’s amazing people thin they can earn salvation. Of any typeAmen! In Philippians 2:12, Paul said to "work out" your salvation (not to be confused with) "work for" your salvation. When we "work out" at the gym, we exercise to develop our body that we already have and not in order to get a body. Farmers "work out" the land, not in order to get the land, but to develop the land they already have.
Who said anything about human belief? It’s not human. It is who the faith is placed in that mattersWe are brought to initially believe in Jesus by God..once that happens we then are Born Again and given the gift of Faith to believe, why, because we have been Born Again...you cannot believe or have Faith in Jesus/ God, without the witness of the Holy Spirit...witnessing Gods truth to our spirit...
Human belief is just that, it is void of the Living word of Gods Spirit.