Stranger said:
bbyrd009
Well, if you have no Scriptural base for what you are saying, then, again, why should you be taken seriously? I certainly can't take you seriously.
There are absolutes and absolute Truth. Jesus Christ is the Truth. The written Word of God is the Truth. Christians can have opinons on what they believe the truth is in the Bible, but not that it does not exist.
Stranger
well, i don't mean to say that i have no Scriptural basis for them, but that we would just devolve into the standard argument over the interpretation, and that never seems to go anywhere, wadr, so i have learned to just go right to the one, the "baptism," that no one can answer for, not even me, but at least i am acknowledging it, whereas the "ritual" people usually do not. Because we can surely both agree that John Baptist said Christ would baptize with the Spirit, and with Fire, and we are mostly plexed up on the "water" one, huh, making sure the right words get said, deeming that a "confession," and earnestly "re-baptizing" people whom we have convinced got "baptized wrong" the first time, etc. And then of course we have the (ritual of) "spirit" baptism, that we could wrangle about for a few pages, and settle nothing there, either, so all i can tell you is that when you start asking as a student, and not a lawyer--which i understand, ok, i'm not knocking you for this, but it just is an indicator of where you are at, and there is nothing wrong with you, right now, as far as I'm concerned; it just is what it is--then we can maybe go there then. Because, as you say, you cannot take me seriously, right now, and tbh the interpretation i would give you is hardly unique or anything, i got it from someone else, and it isn't going anywhere.
@ "Absolute Truth," yes, Christ is the Truth, but notice a lot of people worshipping Nehushtan, from the Promised Land, they have already arrived, so the phrase is fraught with meaning, means something a bit different to everyone, so don't take me wrong, but that is basically meaningless. Hitler would agree with us, iow.
@ "Written Word of God," there is no such thing, which i see is finally starting to be revealed in forums, and so we can go into that if you like. Once the Word is written, it becomes "it is written," not "Word." Word requires Breath, Pneuma, and if what you say is true, then
In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God
is also true, which it is not, so, that is just the condensed argument, which i have had before, which is not too fair to you, and if you wanna back up and go through that we can, i'll tell you that Deut 30 is prolly your best shot there, like vv 8-12, in there, but notice there is a change from "commandments" to "commandment" that most people overlook, and i'll tell you that i didn't see it, until i read the vv backwards, myself.
The Book is God~Breathed, though, came from Word, but of course is vastly different now than when It was written, now we got "Easter," and all of us who "
are saved," and all kinda other Scribation, so that's where i'm at there. Which i know is a big step, from people telling you "let's get into the Word" your whole life, and picking up a Bible. sorry. When you hear that, you might just hear "I'm about to get Scribed," wadr.
Christians can have opinons on what they believe the truth is in the Bible, but not that it does not exist.
well, show me "Easter" in the Bible, and we'll go from there, ok?