If churches are failing, how can they be improved

[The Gospel of Christ]

"Bring out the torches and pitchforks!
There is a heretical Christian on our street!

Are you ready men?!
Let's go get them!

(so... Christian like)"

No — what’s actually happening is this:

You’re refusing to get on the New Covenant bus driven by Jesus Christ — the King of the Jews —
a bus filled with those who have truly surrendered the flesh, the lineage, and the law…
and taken their seat by faith alone.

You can say you believe in Jesus.
But if you're still clutching the Old Covenant, still elevating tribal identity,
still making flesh your boast…
then you're not on the bus.

You’re not defending the Gospel.
You’re standing outside the vehicle of salvation, pounding your chest about being 'chosen' while gripping the rusted keys to a covenant God already shredded 2,000 years ago..

And the tragedy is this:
This deception is destabilizing the entire world —
and it’s going to end in a nuclear cloud,
exactly as it was designed by the Dragon to do.
To destroy God's beautiful creation once and for all,
and drag as many as he can into the gates of Hell with him.

Those on the bus — Old Covenant Jews and Gentiles who surrendered to Christ —
now make up the true Israel: the New Covenant Jews.
They will be saved.

Those who refused a seat…
will perish.

And that’s not opinion.
That’s God’s honest truth.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You’re refusing to get on the New Covenant bus

Is that like one of them electrical hippies buses where they smoke that whackie tobacci

 

[GeneZ]

Some here are stubborn and determined to keep anyone from possibly learning needed Truth that they do not approve of.

Its the closest thing to a Christian Jihad when they are run by their emotions.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

We’re giving you the God’s honest truth — straight from Scripture, not emotion.
You just don’t like what the truth actually says.

When Paul wrote, “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel” (Romans 9:6), and “A Jew is one inwardly, by the Spirit” (Romans 2:29), he wasn’t being “emotional.”

He was annihilating the entire ethnic-based covenant theology that Scofield and Darby tried to resurrect 1800 years later.

Calling that “Christian Jihad” doesn’t make you sound wise.
It makes you sound allergic to Scripture when it challenges your tradition.

This isn’t about control.
It’s about the Cross.
And the Cross obliterated the covenant of flesh — permanently.

You want a Gospel that flatters your identity.

We’re preaching the truth — and unfortunately, that truth obliterates your beliefs.

And that’s why you’re angry.

 

[GeneZ]

Half truth and a half error does not lock things up.

Dispensationalism emphasizes a distinct plan for Israel and the church, with the church age being viewed as a temporary parenthesis in God's overarching plan.

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: ​

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in... Romans 11:25​

Some here are failing real bad to get this part... -
"So that you may not be conceited."

The status of Israel is only temporarily on hold.
Israel will once again be reinstated as a people of God.

Why are some so jealous of the Jews that they must try to wipe them out and replace them?
My pastor once explained to us why some have an irrational hatred for the Jews.

Reason?

The Lord has promised in Scripture that when He returns to earth that He is going to regather all the surviving Jews of the Tribulation,
and bring them all back to the land of Israel... to establish His kingdom on earth, with Messiah sitting on the Throne in Jerusalem.

Satan understands something from that. That if Satan can somehow find a way to kill off all Jews before Christ's return?
That Jesus Christ will be proven fallible and a liar.... Thus nullifying the judgment of Satan to the Lake of Fire. That explains
the insane desires of the likes of Hitler, and Thomas of Torquemada, to eliminate all Jews.

Hating Jews is not a good side to be on.

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[The Gospel of Christ]

To those still under the Scofield spell of dispensationalism:

We’re not preaching emotion.
We’re quoting Scripture — word for word.
You just don’t like what the Word of God actually says.

Romans 9:6 – “For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel...”
Romans 2:28–29 – “A Jew is one inwardly... and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit.”
Galatians 3:29 – “If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Ephesians 2:14 – “He has made the two groups one... destroying the dividing wall of hostility.”

Paul wasn’t confused.
He wasn’t “partial.”
And he wasn’t laying out a dual-covenant theology that gets overridden by 20th-century Oxford Press commentaries funded by Zionist bankers.

He was declaring that the Cross ended the covenant of the flesh — and created one new man in Christ.

This isn’t about replacement.
It’s about fulfillment.

The seed of Abraham is Christ, and only those in Christ are heirs.
Not one verse says that bloodline gives you a free pass.
Not one.

So let’s deal with your “temporary parenthesis” fantasy.

Dispensationalism claims that the Church is a cosmic afterthought.
That Jesus Christ came offering a kingdom, got rejected, and had to "pause" the real plan — like God got interrupted.
As if Calvary was Plan B.
As if the Holy Spirit descended on the wrong people at the wrong time…
…and Jesus died for nothing.

That’s not theology.
That’s blasphemy in a Scofield Study Bible footnote.

The Gospel isn’t paused.
It’s finished.
The Kingdom has come — and it’s not headquartered in Jerusalem real estate.
It’s seated at the right hand of the Father, where Christ rules now (Eph. 1:20–23).

Your interpretation of Romans 11 is twisted beyond recognition.
Paul isn’t prophesying the reinstallation of a separate, flesh-based covenant.
He’s warning Gentiles not to boast — because faith, not race, grants access to the Root (Christ).

There’s no revival of the Mosaic covenant.
No future bloodline priesthood.
No third temple with animal sacrifices.

That’s not Christianity — it’s spiritual regression.
A denial of Hebrews 8, 9, and 10.

And let’s address your Hail Mary — the Hitler/Torquemada analogy.

Nobody here is “jealous” of Jews or advocating hatred.
We’re exposing a false theology that manipulates prophecy to excuse political idolatry and bloodline favoritism.
If you need to compare theological disagreement with genocide, your argument is already in the trash bin of credibility.

We’re not erasing the Jews.
We’re preaching the Jewish Messiah — who said:

“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6)

That includes Abraham’s descendants.
It always has.

So here’s the bottom line:
There is no Plan A and Plan B.
There is one covenant.
One Body.
One Lord.

And if you think Jesus needs a bloodline to validate His return, then you’ve traded the power of the Resurrection for Scofield’s house of sand.

Repent of this man-made dual-covenant delusion.
Return to the Christ who tore the veil — not the one who waits for a rebuilt one.

Because the Gospel doesn’t pause.
It conquers.

At the core, this isn’t theological confusion.
It’s spiritual rebellion disguised as tradition.

They’re terrified that if they accept Christ as King,
they’ll have to surrender their earthly power,
their bloodline bragging rights,
and their geopolitical throne made of sand.

Because if Jesus is King now,
then the old covenant is dead.
The priesthood is over.
The genealogies are meaningless.
And the only kingdom that matters is not of this world.

But they can’t handle that.
So they resurrect the Law.
They rebuild altars.
They redraw borders.
And they pretend it’s “biblical” to cling to flesh after God has revealed the Spirit.

It’s not faith — it’s fear.

Because Christ doesn’t share thrones.
And if He's truly enthroned at the right hand of God…
then every other claim to covenantal supremacy just got obliterated.

Just repent and get on the bus with the rest of us…
— before the Driver shuts the door and the wheels of judgment start to roll.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in... Romans 11:25

And of course the Lord is not doing this willie nillie, they rejected Jesus as their Messiah which is why their heart was hardened.

Had they accepted Jesus as their Messiah when He came the first time then the gentiles would be going to the Jews to learn of Jesus which is what the Lord wanted to happen, but they did not cooperate.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

We’re giving you the God’s honest truth — straight from Scripture, not emotion.
You just don’t like what the truth actually says.

When Paul wrote, “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel” (Romans 9:6), and “A Jew is one inwardly, by the Spirit” (Romans 2:29), he wasn’t being “emotional.”

He was annihilating the entire ethnic-based covenant theology that Scofield and Darby tried to resurrect 1800 years later.

Calling that “Christian Jihad” doesn’t make you sound wise.
It makes you sound allergic to Scripture when it challenges your tradition.

This isn’t about control.
It’s about the Cross.
And the Cross obliterated the covenant of flesh — permanently.

You want a Gospel that flatters your identity.

We’re preaching the truth — and unfortunately, that truth obliterates your beliefs.

And that’s why you’re angry.

I do think that when you say Jews ? you are refering to the Blight of the So called Jews !

And Nothing to do with any Jew themselves as being the crux of the real problem ? That being the True Issue in fact, is it not ?

as in that the issue truly is with one who is under a Curse ! for They are a Blight ! as are all people regardless who are not worthy of God !

As fact is that all people who are not Saved are under a Curse in fact and a blight to God ! for they do not know God in fact ! for fact is that anyone who rejects Christ Jesus is in fact going to Hell !

Yes even the atheist believes that the State that was named called Israel, is Israel ? They believe such ! Fools and Dupes ! but they truly know nothing of reality at all, as the real worthy Jew of the OT, They do in fact openly point out that the State is not Israel in fact ! But they hope it will become Israel once again ? = worthy of God !
They seek the 2ed coming ! for They are at a Loss of who Jesus truly is, The Christ Jesus in fact !
Now when anyone truly comes to become born again, it is then that such a one knows the Truth ! Bingo ! The scalles from such eyes will fall away and become open to here and see !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

And of course the Lord is not doing this willie nillie, they rejected Jesus as their Messiah which is why their heart was hardened.

Had they accepted Jesus as their Messiah when He came the first time then the gentiles would be going to the Jews to learn of Jesus which is what the Lord wanted to happen, but they did not cooperate.

They who did come to know Jesus was the Christ Jesus were all Jews who were worthy in fact and the ones who rejected Jesus were under the power of This world, that is Full of Deceptions and Delusions in fact !

Now that relates to all people regarless, for their are not Jews in Christ nor Greek. for all are as One in Christ Jesus, as we are truly brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, we are as one Body ! not two etc. If one does not understand that, such a one is not Saved in fact !

Only total morons talk of their Race ? your Race does not Save your Soul !
Everyones Race is an abomination to God ! in regards one thinks it's your Race that is worthy to God ! because it is not in fact !

 

[GeneZ]

And of course the Lord is not doing this willie nillie, they rejected Jesus as their Messiah which is why their heart was hardened.

Had they accepted Jesus as their Messiah when He came the first time then the gentiles would be going to the Jews to learn of Jesus which is what the Lord wanted to happen, but they did not cooperate.

That sounds logical.....

But, it is false!

Try accepting the fact that God's Word does not lie.

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: ​

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in... Romans 11:25​

Deal with it!
You haven't a clue as to what that truth is telling us.
You tried to speculate it away.

God is going to bring back in Israel after the fullness of Gentiles has been gathered in.

One more time:

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: ​

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in... Romans 11:25​

Grace and Truth.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

"Grace and Truth," you say? Oh boy..
Let's break that open and see which one you’re actually dealing in.

You’re quoting Romans 11:25 like it’s a get-out-of-repentance-free card for ethnic Israel — as if Paul is handing out tribal coupons redeemable at the throne of God without the Cross.

But let’s step back.
“Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in…” — Romans 11:25

You’re repeating it like a parrot on Scofield’s shoulder — but you’ve ignored every chapter that came before it:

Romans 2:28–29 – “He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but one inwardly.”
Romans 9:6–8 – “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel… it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God.”
Galatians 3:29 – “If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”

^ What do you do with these verses? Close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears and scream "LALALALALA" everyday????

You don’t get to pretend Romans 11 nullifies chapters 2 through 10.

Paul didn’t have theological Alzheimer’s.

The “mystery” Paul refers to in Romans 11 isn’t that God is going to resurrect the Old Covenant like a zombie state.

It’s not a divine sequel starring Levites butchering goats on a marble altar in Jerusalem.
It’s not the blood of bulls and rams staining a rebuilt temple floor in a Levitical time loop.
And it’s definitely not a Zionist geopolitical fanfiction, annotated by Scofield and marketed as “prophecy” to emotionally manipulated Western congregations.

No — the mystery revealed by the Spirit is this:

Christ is the True Israel.

And only those in Him — not Torah, not tribalism, not genealogy — are now counted as the children of promise.

The old wineskin is gone.
The new has come.

And you’re not waiting for Israel to be restored.

You’re refusing to accept that it already has been — in Christ alone.

You said:
“God is going to bring back in Israel after the fullness of Gentiles has been gathered in.”

Let me translate that for the lurkers:

“We believe God’s plan is on pause and that once the Gentiles are saved, He’s going to go back to the Jews, the same ones who rejected Him — and finish the first draft of His failed covenant.”

Do you not realize how theologically absurd that is?
That’s not just theologically unsound — it’s cosmic comedy at the expense of the Cross.

The Gospel is not a revolving door.

God didn’t put salvation in a vending machine marked “Gentile mode until further notice.”

The veil was torn.
The law was fulfilled.
The covenant was made new.
There is no second track.

“One flock. One Shepherd.” – John 10:16
“He made the two one.” – Ephesians 2:14
“The true Jew is inward, by the Spirit.” – Romans 2:29

Paul isn’t talking about "reinstating ethnic Israel" as a separate covenant people.

^ No Christian, no Church Father, and no Jew in recorded history ever believed this fantasy — until Scofield showed up in 1909 with a Rothschild stamp and Oxford Press backing.

Paul is warning Gentile believers not to become arrogant in their inclusion — because some Jews (a remnant, always a remnant) will also come to Christ, and be grafted back in (Romans 11:23).

But only through Christ.

Not through Torah.
Not through a temple.
Not through birthright.

This isn’t dispensationalism.
This is fulfillment.

And let’s talk “Grace and Truth.”
Grace doesn’t rewrite the Gospel to flatter the flesh.
Truth doesn’t put a yarmulke on the Cross.

“Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ.” – John 1:17

Not Scofield.
Not Darby.
Not Israel’s Ministry of Tourism.

So here’s the bottom line:

The Church is not on pause.
Israel is not on standby. (It's the Body of Christ, not dirt)
There is no reboot of the Old Covenant.
None. Not a trace. Not a fragment. Not a molecule.
Not one verse of the New Testament even gives it CPR.

You’re not reading a mystery.
You’re wearing a veil.

And the only way to remove it…

Is Christ.
And Christ alone.

 

[GeneZ]

Name one book in the Bible that God did not have a Jew to write it?

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

“If churches are failing, how can they be improved?” - You ask?

They can stop peddling Scofield’s fantasy novel, stop waving the flag of ethnic idolatry, and stop bowing to Israel’s tourism board like it’s the fourth person of the Trinity.

What they need to do…
is preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ — straight, uncut, and unapologetic —
so both Jew and Gentile finally wake up from this Zionist, Rothschild coma and see the Cross for what it truly is:
the end of the old, and the birth of the new.

That’s not antisemitism.
That’s repentance.

And until the Church returns to that truth…
it’s not "failing".

It’s under judgment.

If the Apostles or early Church Fathers saw modern dispensationalist theology…

They wouldn’t just disagree.
They wouldn’t even believe it was coming from Christians.

They’d be stunned —
that those entrusted with the Gospel
had turned it into a racial real estate contract.

They’d be speechless —
that after the veil was torn
and the temple system leveled by divine decree,
we somehow stitched it back together
with Scofield’s footnotes and called it "prophecy."

They’d be horrified —
that the Church now defends the very genealogies Paul told us to avoid,
elevates a fleshly nation above the Body of Christ,
and preaches that God’s covenant can be paused like a Netflix episode.

To Peter, Paul, John, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian…

Dispensationalism wouldn’t be seen as a bad doctrine.

It would be recognized as a foreign religion —
birthed in Hell,
cloaked in Scripture,
and masquerading as the Gospel.

To them, this wouldn’t be eschatology.
It would be apostasy.

A great falling away —
led not by atheists,
but by those who claim to love Christ
while resurrecting the very covenant He died to fulfill.

They would tear their robes...
fall to their knees in horror...
and weep — not for themselves,
but for the Bride who betrayed her Groom
for a golden calf flying a national flag.

And as the smoke of this delusion rises like incense in reverse —
even the ancient priests of Babylon would drop their scepters in stunned silence.

Not even they — conjurers of false gods, carvers of idols, architects of ziggurats,
would believe this absurd theater of end-times theology.

They’d look at one another, wide-eyed and howling with laughter:

“Wait… wait, hold on...
You’re telling me… the Christians —
the people who believe in the Messiah who tore the veil —
and the Jews, who’ve been chasing signs for two millennia —
BOTH now think the Kingdom of God is headquartered in dirt and defended by tanks?!
BOTH somehow decided the Body of Christ got demoted… and a patch of land took its place?!”

“You mean the Dark Lord actually pulled that off?!????”

“ROFL!!! HAHAHAHA!!!”

“WOW! Our Lord is powerful!”

“I mean… credit where it’s due — that’s next-level sorcery.”

Yes.

Even Babylon would recognize it.

They’d see right through it —
because deception this thick doesn’t come from misunderstanding.

It comes from hell.

And what the Church calls “prophecy” today?

The demons just call a job well done.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Name one book in the Bible that God did not have a Jew to write it?

“Name one book in the Bible God didn’t have a Jew write.”

Oh, you mean a Judahite?

Because here’s the truth bomb:
The vast majority of the Old Testament wasn’t even written by Jews in the modern sense.

Let’s get this straight:

The term "Jew" (Yehudi) originally referred to members of the tribe of Judah or the southern kingdom of Judah.
But the Old Testament wasn’t written by Judah alone.
It was written by men from all twelve tribes of Israel —
including Levi, Ephraim, Benjamin, and others.

Moses? A Levite.
Samuel? An Ephraimite.
Joshua? Tribe of Ephraim.
Elijah? From Tishbe in Gilead — not Judah.
Hosea? From the northern kingdom (Israel), not Judah.
Paul? From Benjamin — not Judah — and yet says "I am a Jew" by religious classification (Acts 21:39).
Why? Because after the Babylonian exile, everyone from the tribes of the southern kingdom (Judah, Benjamin, and Levites) were collectively called Jews.

But here’s the thing:

By the time of Christ, “Jew” had become more of a religious identity than a strictly tribal one —
and even then, Jesus rebuked many of them because they had become “Jews outwardly,” not inwardly (Romans 2:28–29).

And Luke — author of the Gospel of Luke and Acts — was a Greek Gentile.

So let’s recap:

You’re pretending “Jew” = everyone God used.
The Bible itself disagrees.
Most of the Old Testament authors weren’t from Judah, and therefore not Jews in any meaningful tribal sense.
And the New Testament includes authors who weren’t Jewish at all.

Why?

Because God is not a tribalist.
He’s not a genealogist.
He’s not a nationalist.
He’s God.

And He made it crystal clear that the people of God are not defined by flesh, but by faith.

“Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” – Romans 9:6
“There is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” – Galatians 3:28
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly, but one inwardly...” – Romans 2:28–29

So next time someone asks:

“Did God only use Jews to write the Bible?”

Tell them:
No. He used Israelites from many tribes.
And in the New Covenant — He used Gentiles too.

Because the Bible isn’t about Jewishness.
It’s about Jesus.

And in Him —
Only the cross counts.
Not the bloodline.

 

[Jay Ross]

Find better BS dust to mix with the spirit-based drink that is drunk as a high ball.

 

[Pearl]

And of course with no correct doctrine, there will be right relationship with the Lord.

I think of doctrine as something each denomination reaches differently. But the fact of a proper and close relationship with Jesus trumps denominational teaching.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Find better BS dust to mix with the spirit-based drink that is drunk as a high ball.

Feel free to try to refute [with scripture] anything I've said in this thread at any time.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I think of doctrine as something each denomination reaches differently. But the fact of a proper and close relationship with Jesus trumps denominational teaching.

I'm talking about what the Lord teaches in His Word - His Doctrine, the Doctrine of Christ.

Those that actually love the Lord will walk in agreement with Him.
This is not something one can get from any church as they all teach false doctrine now.

If one could find a church teaching correct doctrine, we still need to believe it for ourselves and walk with the Lord ourselves as nobody can have a relationship with the Lord vicariously thru someone else or thru a church

 

[Pearl]

I'm talking about what the Lord teaches in His Word - His Doctrine, the Doctrine of Christ.

Seems we're on the same page then.