If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

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So was that YES you believe a believer remains saved if they stop believing or NO ?
Are you speaking to me?
I'm sorry -- it's difficult to tell.

A believer is saved as long as:

° He believes in God.
° He obeys God

This is basically what Jesus taught.

John 15:14
14If you love Me, keep my commandments.



If we stop believing in God,,,,we will be in the same conditon we were in when we were atheists.
If we stop obeying God...we will no longer to ABIDING in Christ and Jesus taught that we are to abide IH HIM.

John 15:5-6
5“I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up;



We don't wake up one moring and our salvation has disappeared.
God never leaves us.
It is always the person that leaves God.


This is a willful decision...
either by abandoning God
or by returning to a life of sin.


If a believer stops believing...
he is no longer a believer.

If a person is not a believer...
they are not saved.
 

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What did Paul teach were the ACTION requirements to be saved/sealed/justified/made righteous ?
More questions:
  • What is "faith"?
  • What does "faith" look like? How do you know if you have it?
  • Is "faith" a justifying action? Would a Calvinist and an Arminian answer that differently?
  • Paul's model for faithfulness comes from Abraham believing God's promise that he would have descendants: Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness. What happens when someone stops believing?
 

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BTW, a wax seal does not prevent someone from opening a letter; that would defeat the purpose. What it does is show authenticity and tamper evidence. These days, we would use digital signatures based on asymmetric cryptography for that purpose.

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So was that YES you believe a believer remains saved if they stop believing or NO ?

A believer who “stops” believing, was Never converted / ie. saved.

A “converted believer“ IS “converted” ie. saved Once, and can Never become “UN-converted…Ie. UN-saved.

Salvation is an “entrance door” one enters Through.
Salvation IS NOT a “swinging door”…
There IS NO Exit, as people falsely teach, (as if they can enter and exit, enter and exit, enter and exit, like a Walmart freak show.)
 

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This is another one I don't like to talk about. The whole book of Hebrews is a warning against apostacy. And it says that if you fall away, there's no going back. There's a reason this book is in the Bible.

Not written to us, you say? My KJV attributes Hebrews to Paul, though most scholars would probably disagree.

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A believer who “stops” believing, was Never converted / ie. saved.
For the believer who lacks confidence, that only shifts the problem to, "Am I really 'converted'?" (Or, to use theological language, "regenerate"?)

To complicate things, Calvin writes that some believers may experience a temporary or "evanescent" grace so that they believe they are converted, but then God pulls the rug out from under them. Lovely. Just lovely. Anyway, that was his explanation for the very real phenomenon of apostacy, which should be impossible within the confines of his system.
 
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This is another one I don't like to talk about. The whole book of Hebrews is a warning against apostacy. And it says that if you fall away, there's no going back. There's a reason this book is in the Bible.

Not written to us, you say? My KJV attributes Hebrews to Paul, though most scholars would probably disagree.

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In regard to Hebrews 6:4-6, once enlightened, which means to bring to light, to shed light upon or to cause light to shine upon some object, in the sense of illuminating it. John 1:9 describes Jesus, the "true Light," giving light "to every man," but this cannot mean the light of salvation, because not every man is saved. The light either leads to acceptance of Jesus Christ or produces condemnation in those who reject the light.

In regard to partakers of the Holy Spirit, the word translated “partaker” can certainly refer to a saving partaking in Christ, as we read in Hebrews 3:14, yet it can also refer to a less than saving association or participation. See Luke 5:7 and Hebrews 1:9 - "comrades, companions," which describes one who shares with someone else as an associate in an undertaking. These Hebrews who fell away had obviously in some aspect shared in the ministry of the Holy Spirit, but in what way? There are other ministries of the Holy Spirit which "precede" receiving the indwelling and sealing of the Holy Spirit, which only genuine believers receive.

Those who fall away absolutely could have been affiliated closely with the fellowship of the church. Such people certainly may have experienced sorrow for sin, heard and understood the gospel and have given some assent to it and have become associated with the work of the Holy Spirit while around believers and have tasted the heavenly gift and the powers of the age to come. They may have been exposed to the true preaching of the word of God yet have simply tasted and stopped there. People who have experienced these things may be genuine Christians, yet this alone is not enough to give conclusive evidence that the beginning stages of conversion (repentance unto life, regeneration, salvation, justification, etc..) have taken place for those who fell away. The experiences in Hebrews 6:4-6 are all preliminary to those decisive beginning stages of becoming a Christian, yet those who draw back to perdition after receiving the 'knowledge' of the truth do not believe to the saving of the soul. (Hebrews 10:39)

These certain individuals who fall short of obtaining salvation certainly may have become partakers of the Holy Spirit in his pre-salvation ministry, convicting of sin and righteousness and judgment to come by tasting the good word of God and temporarily responding to His drawing power which is intended to ultimately lead sinners to Christ, yet the writer of Hebrews does not use conclusive terms that these individuals were "indwelled by the Holy Spirit" or "sealed by the Holy Spirit." Genuine believers who have believed the gospel are sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession/unto the day of redemption. (Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30)

In regard to tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, they may have tasted in such a way as to give them a distinct impression of what was tasted, yet they still fell away. Inherent in the idea of tasting is the fact that one might or might not decide to accept what is tasted. For example, the same Greek word (geuomai) is used in Matthew 27:34 to say that those crucifying Jesus "offered him wine to drink, mingled with gall; but when he tasted it, he would not drink it." We do not merely taste, but drink into one Spirit. (1 Corinthians 12:13)

In regard to renew them again unto repentance, this does not specify whether the repentance was merely outward or genuine accompanied by saving faith. They have in some sense "repented," there may be sorrow for sins and an attempt to turn from them (moral self-reformation) that non-believers can experience. There is repentance that falls short of salvation, which is clear from Hebrews 12:7 and the reference to Esau, as well as the repentance of Judas Iscariot in Matthew 27:3. Paul refers to a repentance “without regret that leads to salvation,” which shows there is a repentance that does not lead to salvation. As with “belief/faith”, so too with “repentance,” we must always distinguish between what is substantial and results in salvation and what is spurious. Renew them again "unto salvation" would be conclusive evidence for the argument of a loss of salvation.

In Hebrews 6:7-8, we read - For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned. In this metaphor relating to agriculture, those who receive final judgment are compared to land that bears no vegetation or useful fruit, but rather bears thorns and thistles. We see in scripture where good fruit is the evidence of spiritual life and a lack of good fruit is a sign of false believers (Matthew 3:8-10; 7:15-20; 12:33-35) so we have an indication that the trustworthy evidence of one's spiritual condition is the fruit they bear (whether good or bad), suggesting that those who fell away in Hebrews 6 were not genuine believers.

*Verse 9 sums it up for me. The writer is speaking to those truly saved (refers to them as BELOVED). He says that even though he speaks like this concerning THOSE types of people, He is convinced of better things concerning YOU. Things that ACCOMPANY SALVATION. Thorns and briars and falling away permanently do not accompany salvation and are not fruits worthy of authentic repentance.

It's generally stated by those who believe that salvation can be lost that it can be regained again, yet that would not be the case here if the writer of Hebrews was teaching a loss of salvation. I have heard certain individuals state they know someone who was truly saved, but later lost their salvation, yet only God truly knows the heart of individuals. Certain people "on the surface" may do a good job of looking like the real deal for a while (like Judas Iscariot, who was an unbelieving, unclean devil who betrayed Jesus - John 6:64-71; 13:10-11) yet to the other 11 disciples, he looked like the real deal, but Jesus knew his heart. There are genuine Christians and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers and it's not always easy telling them apart.
 
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Reader,


Let me show you how to put on "the helmet of Salvation".

New Christians, or baby Christians.........all wrongly believe this.. = "as long as i hold unto my faith, i keep myself saved".

But that is not God's "GIFT of Salvation""......as God's Salvation is Jesus on The Cross, and once we give God our Faith in Christ one time......just once is all God asks.. = Then our "faith is ACCEPTED by God, as (Christ's) imputed Righteousness".

So, this means that the initial faith we had, on that blessed day of our Salvation..... = Holy God has accepted forever.
And this is proven by the fact that because God has already Accepted our Faith, ONCE and for all......= .we are born again ONCE.

Reader, the only eternal proof that someone is a Christian, is that they are born......again.........and that is not water baptism, so, be ye not deceived.

Listen,

The carnal baby Hebrews 6:1 Christian, who is "" fallen from(God's) Grace"" does not understand that God eternally accepted their faith in Christ and gave them "the Gift of Salvation", and they now have it forever.
They dont understand, (the baby Christians), that once they have received what Jesus has finished on The Cross, 2000 yrs ago....then they now have it as God offers it which is....= .ETERNAL LIFE.
They dont BELIEVE that they have it..........and that is because they have no real faith yet.
Real Faith, subsequent to Salvation, the walk of Faith, is the understanding regarding What Christ has done for them on the Cross, that God has GIVEN THEM as a GIFT< that is ETERNAL.
Its what God has done for YOU if you are truly born again, and not just water baptized and very religious.
So, instead of understanding this revelation, they are trying to continue to get it, or keep it. And that is the problem that baby believers have regarding their ZERO
understanding of God's "Gift of Salvation."" who is JESUS on The Cross.

Jesus is Salvation, and that is not something you can do for yourself by trying to "abide" or "endure to the end" or "confess sin", or "try to be like Christ".. or "live in a state of repentance", or do "Pennance".

Listen......."its not by works of righteousness but according to God's MERCY that He saved us.

""SAVED US"..... = Completed.........Finished.


Reader there is initial faith that Christ is your Savior......but then there is the revelation of God's Grace, that is the subsequent understanding that im teaching you right now.......and on quite a few Threads ive posted recently for you.

And until these baby believers come to the REVELATION that they are "in Christ".. "one with God", and in the "KOG" already and forever......which means they are now eternally God's.."blood bought" and "sealed unto the day of (our) redemption" by the Holy Spirit...then they keep trying to get there....They keep trying to uselessly PERFORM to KEEP or Confess to Keep....= what is already eternally established "through CHRIST">.. as their eternal "Gift of Salvation", forever.

They dont believe this, because they dont really have REAL Faith in Christ yet.....the kind that sustains you because its centered in God's MERCY and not their Self Saving LIST......of "i must do this and not do that, and if i get all my do's and dont dos right every day till i die, then i might just end up in heaven".

See that one?
They have no real faith in Christ. They are "fallen from Grace"... "Bewitched" and "IN the Flesh" (Carnally minded).

Reader, the Hebrews 6:1 baby believer, is always trying to ignorantly complete for God, what Christ finished on The Cross 2000 yrs ago already for the World. (John 3:16-17).
And until they understand this revelation, they have not worked out their salvation, they are not walking in the spirit, and they have not put on the Helmet of Salvation. This means they are easy MENTAL prey for Cross Denying Heretics who look for you on Forums and on the Internet and from behind pulpits.
They look for you, Readers, because they know you dont have real faith in Christ. You only have it in = your doing and working and this is SELF SAVING (Self Righteousness)...... And until you stop that carnal mind and get completely out of it... by trusting in Christ alone to keep you saved, then the > 2nd Part < of Hebrews 13:9 (KJV) is going to find you and keep you deceived.

Reader, the Heretics will be aggressively trying to keep you self righteously deceived into trying to do for yourself = what Christ already completed for you 2000 yrs ago on The Cross, when He told you from The Cross....."it is finished". ="The Gift of Salvation".

So, the baby Christian, is always trying to finish that by themselves, (keep yourself saved). Yet Jesus The Christ told you 2000 yrs ago that He has already "FINISHED IT" for you as your "Gift of SALVATION"" = that is His Literal Sacrifice of Himself on The Cross for you.

Yea I like Hebrews to....
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8 but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned. Hebrews 6:4-8

Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:19-25

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:26-31

Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name. And do not neglect doing good and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased. Hebrews 13:15-16
 
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What did Paul teach were the ACTION requirements to be saved/sealed/justified/made righteous ?
Let's see :_
Titus 3:
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Gal 3:

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster
Rom 3:
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Rom 11:
6
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Hopefully you know that "works of the Law" is pertaining to the Old Testament Laws. Obeying Yeshua is not considered works, neither is Good Deeds and thereby showing compassion and love for one another. For such things please the Lord. And remember the fate of those that do not help one another....The Sheep and the Goats...
 

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This is another one I don't like to talk about. The whole book of Hebrews is a warning against apostacy. And it says that if you fall away, there's no going back. There's a reason this book is in the Bible.

Not written to us, you say? My KJV attributes Hebrews to Paul, though most scholars would probably disagree.

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I hear Barnabas may have written it.
A student and fellow missionary of Paul.
 

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Yea I like Hebrews to....
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8 but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned. Hebrews 6:4-8

Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:19-25

For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:26-31

Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name. And do not neglect doing good and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased. Hebrews 13:15-16
Those verses sound very scary GH.
Maybe the writer of Hebrews didn't really mean them??

It almost sounds like we could forfeit our salvation.
Can it be?

I would suppose that if it's written in the bible,
then it must be true.
 
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For the believer who lacks confidence, that only shifts the problem to, "Am I really 'converted'?" (Or, to use theological language, "regenerate"?

To complicate things, Calvin writes that some believers may experience a temporary or "evanescent" grace so that they believe they are converted, but then God pulls the rug out from under them. Lovely. Just lovely. Anyway, that was his explanation for the very real phenomenon of apostacy, which should be impossible within the confines of his system.

Scripture reveals the Differences…

Between…
Believing…
Following…
Tasting…
“With” God…

And…

Believing “Heartfully”…
Walking “with”…
Eating…
“IN” God…

Both receive Blessing From God.
(Even the denier receives blessings from God)

Difference Between…
The Believing Follower, Taster, With God…
And
The changed Committed Believer, Walker With God and Eater…
IS:

The Taster CAN turn About and walk AWAY from God…
And
The Eater CAN NOT EVER be separated From God.

Who “truly” knows… “IF” an individual man Believes IN his (heart / spirit), that he Believes IN God?

( a showmanship, of an altar call, a water baptism, a christening, joining a man-made church, “going” to church and being involved with its doctrines, traditions, activities?)

No.
Only the individual and God himself KNOW, a man true heart’s (natural spirits’) Belief.

1 Cor 2:
[11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

God has “offered” mankind, a Gift, He bought and Paid for.
Some men “reach out and Take and Possess the Gift, Many DO NOT.”

A man WHO rejects “Taking” His Offered Gift, simply Does Not “possess” the Gift…
And the False Teaching by many “wayward” Preachers…
IS …
* a man possesses Gods gift, without Taking the Gift…and IS routinely in “danger” of losing his gift, IF his works ( going to church, giving $$ to the church, praying “TO” saints, bowing down to statues, slacking on the doctrines and rituals of mans church ) / are considered by that church…as sub-par”.

Hogwash!

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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U can't quote a comprehensive list of verses to support your claims so you just make short ignorant comments
The bible is not a COMPREHENSIVE list of verses Peter.
It's a teaching.
It teaches how to be saved and STAY saved.

Here is a comphehensive list of verses for you.

Taken straight from my bible,
begining with Matthew.

Where did you get yours??

Matthew 3:10
3:12
4:4
4:17

5:3-10
5:13
5:16
5:19
5:20
5:22
5:24
5:28
5:29
5:30
5:32
5:42
5:44
5:48

6:1
6:3
6:6
6:15
6:19
6:24



Now the above are actions.
JESUS taught this.
JESUS the one you think you are following.

If you are a serious student of the bible,

You will read each one and believe it.
Because Jesus said this and taught this for YOU.


There are many, many more...
but it's a good start.

Of course, reading the list can be dangerous...
you might actually learn what God expects from you

and you want God to expect nothing from you.

And now I'll go through YOUR list...
 

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For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:26-31
In regard to Hebrews 10:26, To "sin willfully" carries the idea of deliberate intention that is habitual, which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately. This is continuous action, a matter of practice. Now we don't walk along our daily life and "accidentally" fall into a pit called sin. We exercise our will but, the use of the participle clearly shows a ongoing, willful, habitual action. The unrighteous practice sin (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21); not the righteous, who are born of God (1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 John 3:9). *Hermeneutics.

If the word 'sanctified' in Hebrews 10:29 is used to describe saved people who lost their salvation, then we have a contradiction because the writer of Hebrews in verse 10 said "sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all" (Hebrews 10:10) and in verse 14, we read, "perfected for all time those who are sanctified." (Hebrews 10:14) So, in Hebrews 10:10, we clearly read ..WE have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. In Hebrews 10:14, we read - For by one offering He has perfected for all time THOSE who are sanctified. To go from sanctified back to un-sanctified would be in contradiction here.

*NOWHERE in the context does it specifically say the person who "trampled underfoot the Son of God and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant" was "saved" and/or "lost their salvation." The reference to "the blood of the covenant that sanctified him" in verse 29 "on the surface" appears to be referring to a Christian, but this overlooks the fact that the word translated "sanctified" (which is the verb form of the adjective "holy") which means "set apart," and doesn't necessarily refer to salvation.

Strong's Concordance
hagiazó: to make holy, consecrate, sanctify
Original Word: ἁγιάζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: hagiazó
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-ad'-zo)
Definition: to make holy, consecrate, sanctify
Usage: I make holy, treat as holy, set apart as holy, sanctify, hallow, purify.

*In 1 Corinthians 7:14, Paul uses it to specifically refer to non-Christians who are "sanctified" or "set apart" by their believing spouse. (And by this Paul does not mean that they are saved). A non-Christian can be "set apart" from other non-Christians without experiencing salvation as Paul explained. So the word "sanctified" means to be "set apart." If the word "sanctified" simply meant saved, then you would have to say that the seventh day was saved (Genesis 2:3), the tabernacle was saved (Exodus 29:43), Moses saved the people after coming down off the mountain (Exodus 19:14), the priests and the Levites saved themselves (1 Chronicles 15:14), the Father saved the Son (John 10:36), the Son saved Himself (John 17:19) and many other things that do not line up with scripture.

In verse 39, the writer of Hebrews sets up the CONTRAST that makes it clear to me that he was referring to make believers/nominal Christians, not saved people: But WE are not of those who draw back to perdition, but OF THOSE who believe to the saving of the soul. Those who draw back to perdition do not believe to the saving of the soul and those who believe to the saving of the soul do not draw back to perdition.

So after considering the CONTEXT, it seems most likely that "he was sanctified" should be understood in the sense of someone who had been "set apart" or identified as a professing believer in the Hebrew Christian community of believers, but later renounces his identification with other believers, by rejecting the "knowledge of the truth" that he had received and trampling underfoot the work and the person of Christ himself. This gives evidence that his identification with the Hebrew Christian community of believers was only superficial and that he was not a genuine believer.
 
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GodsGrace

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@PeterAndroz

Are you going to reply to my post no. 441
or are you here just for fun?

Jesus didn't die for you to have fun.
He died trying to teach you how to get to heaven.

Is that your aim or not?
 

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For the believer who lacks confidence, that only shifts the problem to, "Am I really 'converted'?" (Or, to use theological language, "regenerate"?

To complicate things, Calvin writes that some believers may experience a temporary or "evanescent" grace so that they believe they are converted, but then God pulls the rug out from under them. Lovely. Just lovely. Anyway, that was his explanation for the very real phenomenon of apostacy, which should be impossible within the confines of his system.
Yes sir.

Book 3
Chapter 24
Paragraph 8

The Institutes of the Christian Religion
John Calvin

But it's easier to stay ignorant of teachings.