If You Had the Opportunity...

[OzSpen]

It amazes me how quickly this topic has gone off track.

If you'd like to discuss another topic please feel free to do so...however, the O/P was ~

Angelina,

The use of logical fallacies is the bane of logical discussion. We can't engage in logical discussion if a person refuses to deal with the issues raised. Such people need to be called for what they are doing. That's what I've done in identifying a red herring fallacy.

A red herring logical fallacy is the fallacy used when a person chooses his or her own response but it's a different agenda to the one addressed. That's what the person did to my response at #14. For a description, see, 'Fallacy: Red Herring' (The Nizkor Project).

It's not going 'off track', but identifying illogic in discussions. We can't have logical discussions when people use logical fallacies.

Oz

 

[Angelina]

Angelina,

The use of logical fallacies is the bane of logical discussion. We can't engage in logical discussion if a person refuses to deal with the issues raised. Such people need to be called for what they are doing. That's what I've done in identifying a red herring fallacy.

A red herring logical fallacy is the fallacy used when a person chooses his or her own response but it's a different agenda to the one addressed. That's what the person did to my response at #14.

It's not going 'off track', but identifying illogic in discussion.

Oz

That's fine...start another topic in the debate forum so that you can deal with those issues raised. The topic is off track when it does not refer to the O/P...

If you had the opportunity, would you be able to explain clearly what Christianity is all about?

It's a simple enough question and I would be very interested in comments from our members.

 

[OzSpen]

That's fine...start another topic in the debate forum so that you can deal with those issues raised. The topic is off track when it does not refer to the O/P...


It's a simple enough question and I would be very interested in comments from our members.

Yes, it is a simple enough question and I have responded to it at #13.

Therefore, my calling attention to what a person is doing with the use of logical fallacies in a discussion is my attempt to keep the discussion on track and not off and running with another topic - by the use of a red herring fallacy.

Or, am I to accept that you do not want me to challenge the illogic a person is using in a thread?

 

[Angelina]

Okay you have still not got this yet and I'm being really patient here. If you want to deal with an issue raised then take it to the debate forum and leave this one to continue on it's original trajectory. <_<

 

[ezekiel]

A walk with God the Father thru Christ blessed be thy names.

 

[DogLady19]

Would you be able to explain clearly what Christianity is all about? :blink:

Thoughts/comments?

Yes, I can... and I work hard to be prepared to do so in every circumstance... and we all the opportunity every day.

 

[Born_Again]

A walk with God the Father thru Christ blessed be thy names.

Yes, I can... and I work hard to be prepared to do so in every circumstance... and we all the opportunity every day.

Good steering back to the OP! Thanks! :)

 

[aspen]

But what do you do when people say they believe, but don't go to church because of the hipocrisy they rightly see from its members.

I'd just remind them that hypocrisy is everywhere - may as well find some hypocrites that actually love you at church. The only alternative to hypocrisy without God is giving up all standards of personal ethics and morality.

 

[DogLady19]

I'd just remind them that hypocrisy is everywhere - may as well find some hypocrites that actually love you at church. The only alternative to hypocrisy without God is giving up all standards of personal ethics and morality.

Good point! People who won't go to church because of the hypocrites are hypocrites themselves, because I bet they work with hypocrites, go to school with them, eat at restaurants with them, hang out at the beach with them, etc.

And what about this one: "Churches just want my money!" Well, so does the grocery store that supplies your food, the doctor that treats your diseases, the school that educates your children, etc.

 

[brakelite]

Christianity is a generic term that covers all who more or less claim a connection to and belief in the person of, and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

 

[katabole]

What is Christianity all about?

In its simplest form...

It is a love relationship between a person and God the Father, through the sacrifice of His only begotten Son, our Lord Jesus Christ by the power of God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit.

 

[wesOK]

Christianity is very simple. It is us humans that make it seem difficult. We have to be compassionate, kind, and forgiving if we want to be truly happy in this life. Our goal in life is to be more Christlike and these three characteristics are vital in doing this. We must also do this to teach our children and youth how to obtain these attributes. it is our responsibility as well as the churches. We can help our churches through fundraisers and programs like cell Phones 4 Churches. This will give them the ability to get the resources needed to help in this education process. It is definitely not the responsibility of the public schools and we must recognize that fact. We must be examples of living what Jesus taught us. Love everyone you come across in life and treat others the way you want to be treated.

 

[Angelina]

Well said wesOK and welcome to CyB. I have not heard of "Cell Phones 4Churches" Please elaborate if you will :huh:

Blessings!