I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

[brakelite]

God chose Hitler and all the other murderers of history for his purposes.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the imbecilic deranged rapist that kills his 12 year old victim is chosen by God because God couldn't kill her Himself but chose some random dude to do it for Him? Dude, you estimation of the character of God needs some serious revision bro. Now.

 

[brakelite]

I'm trying to figure out if the illuminati are responsible for everything, or the Vatican.

We need to remember one vital important factor, or perhaps two. The first, is that it is Satan who is the arch conspirator. He is at the head of the wood pile, and will quite happily let someone, or something, else take the glory for being the cause and instigator of all the chaos, mayhem, and messy wars etc we are witnessing. His goal? To be worshiped. But he knows he cannot walk into the local church, front up to the pulpit and demand, "worship me". He knows, you know, everyone knows such a tactic will never work, (so long as you are aware of who he is), which brings us to the second point; the second vital aspect we must remember...
deception. Jesus warned of deception. Many times. Be not deceived He said. So what has this got to do with Satan's ambition to be worshiped? He needs a proxy. A 'front-man', or more accurately a 'front-organisation' through which he receives what he considers his due. Worship does not simply consist of bowing down. It primarily means submission. And any submission to his ideals, goals, and practices be they in direct obedience to a Satanist priest or through his proxy which is teaching anything even remotely in accord with his ideals, and leads people away from truth, makes him a very happy fallen angel. But I ask, how many of us are aware fully of what is actually going on in the world, who are the real power brokers, who are the puppeteers and who the puppets? There are many theories about what organisation is in ultimate control. The Jesuits, the banksters, Freemasons, Secret Societies, the Illuminati. Personally, I think it is a combination of all of them. Some infiltrating others, and no-one, even within those organisations themselves, knowing precisely who is a member of what. BUt my tendency is to always give prophecy it due, and what I read in prophecy, and what I see in reality, is that religiously and politically, the CC will be at the forefront of any establishment of a NWO, and that behind this, one must give credit to the Jesuits, who for 400 years has led the counter reformation, and done anything, and everything, to promote Papalism as their 'cause celebre'. I believe they, above all others, have for a very long time gained such power and influence as to control to a great extent not just those shadowy organisations above, but also media, education, entertainment, and government.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I think it will be Ezekiel 38.

I think the satanist and cabalist and all the rest have their plans, and think they know what they will do, and God will pull the rug out from under all of them.

I look at the worldrulers' plans, and think, they have no idea! God's agenda is going to overwhelm them all.

1 Thessalonians 5
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Much love!
Mark

I haven't been given light about that verse. How do you interpret it?

I want God to act now because things have gotten so bad.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Yesterday, that SCOTUS Benedict Arnold Judge Roberts sided with the four liberal hags (any man who claims to be liberal by default forfeits his manhood credentials and should immediately surrender his testicles at the nearest Gun Show) on a Louisiana law THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY THROUGH BOTH HOUSES OF STATE CONGRESS AND WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE GOVERNOR IN 2014 which required any doctor who wished to engage in intra-womb child murder to first obtain admitting privileges from a hospital within a certain radius of the child killing factory. With hospitals unwilling to grant such privileges (LA is a pro-life state) child murderers were essentially out of business. Once again, the State has to kow tow to the Feds, and Trump won't by executive order do anything to help. I'll stop this rant here...

Never heard that manhood quote before but it sure is unique! I'm wondering how long God is going to let wicked America go on. It has devolved into a Sodom and Gomorrah. I long for those days when there were expectations from people to be good and they usually were. I long for black and white TV where wholesome shows came out of Hollywood. I long for the time when it was normal for all your neighbors to attend church every week. Everything has changed for the worse. I feel so sorry for this generation and future ones.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Sitting in NZ at the time, and relying a great deal on mainstream news media, I got the strong impression that at one stage Ben Carson was surging in the polls and starting to make a powerful impression on many...until Trump was introduced into the mix...was seemed to me to be a spoiler because the establishment feared Carson could outdo Cruz, Rubio, Jeb Bush, and Huckabee. Despite his relative inexperience and less polished presentations in debates, the public was taking a liking to him because of that inexperience and non-political background...putting Trump out there with a similar non-political background but with more powerful oratory and more aggression in debates, the result was a given.
But with good counsel and support, I don't see how Carson could have been any worse than Trump in current performance, with the bonus of being a complete outsider to the Illuminati controllers.

Do you think Carson was legitimate? What are your thoughts on Trump - do you think he's illuminati?

 

[Soverign Grace]

I listen to some of the hearing today.

The Dems are on a witch hunt trying to find anything to use against Trump.

The socialists movement is growing Democratic Party. Totalitarian thinking couched in socialists rhetoric.

All we have to do is look at the chaos in the eu to see the door opening for the AC. Economic chaos, hatred of Christianity, lazy population that doesn't want to work just be taking care of and other horrors.

The world is riP for the rapture in the EU for the AC.

It is ripe for the end. I actually don't know how God looks on and watches it.

"Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that ismore righteous than he?"

 

[Soverign Grace]

We need to remember one vital important factor, or perhaps two. The first, is that it is Satan who is the arch conspirator. He is at the head of the wood pile, and will quite happily let someone, or something, else take the glory for being the cause and instigator of all the chaos, mayhem, and messy wars etc we are witnessing. His goal? To be worshiped. But he knows he cannot walk into the local church, front up to the pulpit and demand, "worship me". He knows, you know, everyone knows such a tactic will never work, (so long as you are aware of who he is), which brings us to the second point; the second vital aspect we must remember...
deception. Jesus warned of deception. Many times. Be not deceived He said. So what has this got to do with Satan's ambition to be worshiped? He needs a proxy. A 'front-man', or more accurately a 'front-organisation' through which he receives what he considers his due. Worship does not simply consist of bowing down. It primarily means submission. And any submission to his ideals, goals, and practices be they in direct obedience to a Satanist priest or through his proxy which is teaching anything even remotely in accord with his ideals, and leads people away from truth, makes him a very happy fallen angel. But I ask, how many of us are aware fully of what is actually going on in the world, who are the real power brokers, who are the puppeteers and who the puppets? There are many theories about what organisation is in ultimate control. The Jesuits, the banksters, Freemasons, Secret Societies, the Illuminati. Personally, I think it is a combination of all of them. Some infiltrating others, and no-one, even within those organisations themselves, knowing precisely who is a member of what. BUt my tendency is to always give prophecy it due, and what I read in prophecy, and what I see in reality, is that religiously and politically, the CC will be at the forefront of any establishment of a NWO, and that behind this, one must give credit to the Jesuits, who for 400 years has led the counter reformation, and done anything, and everything, to promote Papalism as their 'cause celebre'. I believe they, above all others, have for a very long time gained such power and influence as to control to a great extent not just those shadowy organisations above, but also media, education, entertainment, and government.

I have to continue reading up on the end times. You seem to grasp it - to see it clearly. I'm just beginning to understand it. I think you're right that the evil one is behind everything. For some reason I was thinking of Walter Veith's video this morning, and I recalled the cartoon of the Simpson's in which it showed 9-11 with the twin towers prior to the attack. To think that Bush planned such an overwhelmingly vile deed is behind human comprehension. Only a heart truly turned over to Satan could plan and carry out such a thing.

I'm going to get back to reading The Vatican Assassins. I think I have some type of ADD because I jump around a lot, but usually I get through something after some time. It's something to know that they killed Kennedy - the only President who stood up to them. I watched a show where they said he was killed by the secret service, so they may have been directed to kill him. I still don't understand about the shooter in the book repository - Oswald. How did they get Oswald to shoot too?

What are your beliefs about the Deagal document that states that America is to be depopulated by 2025?

 

[CoreIssue]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the imbecilic deranged rapist that kills his 12 year old victim is chosen by God because God couldn't kill her Himself but chose some random dude to do it for Him? Dude, you estimation of the character of God needs some serious revision bro. Now.

What has that got to do with leaders?

God chose pagans to invade and punish Israel and then later destroyed the pagans.

God will lose the AC upon the world. God has allowed Satan and demons to function in the world. But they will spend eternity in the lake of fire.

God says he allows evil to function in the world due to free will. But in heaven all those Saints who perished because of governments God put in place and evil people who hated Christians will be compensated.

Eternal compensation for earthly issues. Think about it.

Who are you to question the decisions of God?

Daniel 5:21 New International Version (NIV)
21 He was driven away from people and given the mind of an animal; he lived with the wild donkeys and ate grass like the ox; and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until he acknowledged that the Most High God is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and sets over them anyone he wishes.

Romans 13:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

 

[Phoneman777]

Never heard that manhood quote before but it sure is unique! I'm wondering how long God is going to let wicked America go on. It has devolved into a Sodom and Gomorrah. I long for those days when there were expectations from people to be good and they usually were. I long for black and white TV where wholesome shows came out of Hollywood. I long for the time when it was normal for all your neighbors to attend church every week. Everything has changed for the worse. I feel so sorry for this generation and future ones.

It just means that Jesus is coming soon. I cannot wait to see Him coming in the clouds, hear His voice raise the dead, hear Him blow His war trumpet and set to flight all the madmen and madwomen so blinded by the worship of their precious Lucifer that they actually convinced themselves they are able to fight with the Almighty.

For the first seven days after the door of the Ark was shut, the Antediluvians outside were lost and didn't even know it, but when the flood began to sweep over the land, only then did they realize their mistake, but they were beyond the ability to feel sorrow for grieving the heart of God - they were then only concerned about saving their lives. And as they clung as tightly as they could to the Ark, she suddenly began to rock and sway and then lift herself from her long rest and rise with the tide - and she shuddered herself and shook herself and shook off the many spiritual barnacles that cried for mercy but would receive not even the least of them. So shall it be for those who choose the lie of Lucifer over the truth as it is in Jesus.

 

[brakelite]

Do you think Carson was legitimate?

Yes. Politically naïve but his heart was in the right place...yet I always have issues with Christians getting too deep in politics...I think the world infects the Christian rather than the other way around.

What are your thoughts on Trump - do you think he's illuminati?

Probably...if not, certainly one of their puppets.

I have to continue reading up on the end times. You seem to grasp it - to see it clearly.

I see some trends...and I understand symbolism in prophecy. BUt there will be things to come no-one can or does expect. There will be many surprises...Trump was one of them. Who'da thought?

To think that Bush planned such an overwhelmingly vile deed is behind human comprehension. Only a heart truly turned over to Satan could plan and carry out such a thing.

We trust our governments too much...and the leaders of them. Soon as one comes along claiming to be a Christian we fall in love with them and place the title "messiah' after their name. Governments have not been the friends of the populace for many decades...in fact, not since the signing of the Constitution have the people's true interests been the focus of any government, with perhaps the odd exception in certain individuals.

I watched a show where they said he was killed by the secret service, so they may have been directed to kill him. I still don't understand about the shooter in the book repository - Oswald. How did they get Oswald to shoot too?

Patsy.
The FBI and the CIA, must have had people at the forefront in on the conspiracy. Even the VP was at the scene overseeing the whole shebang.

What are your beliefs about the Deagal document that states that America is to be depopulated by 2025?

Don't know about that.

What has that got to do with leaders?

I didn't get that you were only speaking of leaders. You said, Hitler and all other murderers in history...I still have problems thinking God was directly responsible for the murder of 6000000 Jews, so many more millions of others throughout the European theater, as well as the many in the south Pacific, because He "chose Hitler".

God chose pagans to invade and punish Israel and then later destroyed the pagans.

Hi did...but there was a purpose in doing so. IT was for the ultimate redemption of HIs people. I cannot see any eternal purpose in Hitlers rise to power and the subsequent death and mayhem that resulted.

God will lose the AC upon the world.

Why?

Who are you to question the decisions of God?

You do. He said the wages of in was death. You question, doubt, and go so far as totally deny that when you say...eternal torment.

 

[Soverign Grace]

It just means that Jesus is coming soon. I cannot wait to see Him coming in the clouds, hear His voice raise the dead, hear Him blow His war trumpet and set to flight all the madmen and madwomen so blinded by the worship of their precious Lucifer that they actually convinced themselves they are able to fight with the Almighty.

For the first seven days after the door of the Ark was shut, the Antediluvians outside were lost and didn't even know it, but when the flood began to sweep over the land, only then did they realize their mistake, but they were beyond the ability to feel sorrow for grieving the heart of God - they were then only concerned about saving their lives. And as they clung as tightly as they could to the Ark, she suddenly began to rock and sway and then lift herself from her long rest and rise with the tide - and she shuddered herself and shook herself and shook off the many spiritual barnacles that cried for mercy but would receive not even the least of them. So shall it be for those who choose the lie of Lucifer over the truth as it is in Jesus.

I feel that yearning within to see Christ finally put an end to the little kings and queens of the earth and their evil. I like the verse "He who sits in the heavens laughs, for He sees their day is coming." I just wish it would come soon.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Yes. Politically naïve but his heart was in the right place...yet I always have issues with Christians getting too deep in politics...I think the world infects the Christian rather than the other way around.

Probably...if not, certainly one of their puppets.


I see some trends...and I understand symbolism in prophecy. BUt there will be things to come no-one can or does expect. There will be many surprises...Trump was one of them. Who'da thought?
We trust our governments too much...and the leaders of them. Soon as one comes along claiming to be a Christian we fall in love with them and place the title "messiah' after their name. Governments have not been the friends of the populace for many decades...in fact, not since the signing of the Constitution have the people's true interests been the focus of any government, with perhaps the odd exception in certain individuals.

Patsy.
The FBI and the CIA, must have had people at the forefront in on the conspiracy. Even the VP was at the scene overseeing the whole shebang.

Don't know about that.

I didn't get that you were only speaking of leaders. You said, Hitler and all other murderers in history...I still have problems thinking God was directly responsible for the murder of 6000000 Jews, so many more millions of others throughout the European theater, as well as the many in the south Pacific, because He "chose Hitler".

Hi did...but there was a purpose in doing so. IT was for the ultimate redemption of HIs people. I cannot see any eternal purpose in Hitlers rise to power and the subsequent death and mayhem that resulted.
Why?


You do. He said the wages of in was death. You question, doubt, and go so far as totally deny that when you say...eternal torment.

You don't think Christians should run for office? I wondered that with all the Christian colleges, why more Christians didn't get into politics.

I know what you mean about people claiming to be Christian. Our pastor asked us all to pray for the Bush family since he said he was a Christian. I later told him that he was not a Christian. He never responded. I really like our pastor but I'm afraid some believers are taking people at face value and at the word.

I read that Johnson was in on it. He was supposed to be a really mean man I read.

You should read up on it. Deagal is some kind of military document calling for a radical depopulation of America in 2025. It's only 5 years from now and it concerned me.

 

[Phoneman777]

I feel that yearning within to see Christ finally put an end to the little kings and queens of the earth and their evil. I like the verse "He who sits in the heavens laughs, for He sees their day is coming." I just wish it would come soon.

You know it. I'm tired of all the misery this world constantly throws at Christ's redeemed ones. I wish He'd come right now and put an end to it all. O, how His heart must grieve at the non-stop onslaught of Satan against those whom He loves so much that He sent His Son to save them. If there ever was anyone who wants so badly to put an end to this sinful world, it has to be Jesus.

 

[Phoneman777]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the imbecilic deranged rapist that kills his 12 year old victim is chosen by God because God couldn't kill her Himself but chose some random dude to do it for Him? Dude, you estimation of the character of God needs some serious revision bro. Now.

See what gets in here because CC won't institute a cover charge to keep out the riff raff? LOL

 

[Marymog]

We voted for him and supported him, now I think he's illuminati.

Body Language Experts Say Trump Often Flashes “Triangle of Satan” Hand Gesture

I went to their official website. I couln’t find any evidence of him being a member. Maybe you will have better luck than me: The Illuminati | Official Website

 

[Marymog]

...Who but Jesus never took a misstep in his teaching?

@Enoch111 never took a misstep in his teaching. He told us that in post #7

Just havin’ fun....don’t get worked up Enoch

Havin’ fun Mary

 

[Soverign Grace]

You know it. I'm tired of all the misery this world constantly throws at Christ's redeemed ones. I wish He'd come right now and put an end to it all. O, how His heart must grieve at the non-stop onslaught of Satan against those whom He loves so much that He sent His Son to save them. If there ever was anyone who wants so badly to put an end to this sinful world, it has to be Jesus.

I see it in other believers - we've all had our fill of the evil going on all around us and affecting us and our families. I hate feeling helpless. I see it in others too - believers just shaking their heads. I just keep reaching out all the time and begging God to finally let it end. I think this world has been on life support for a long time now.

 

[Phoneman777]

I see it in other believers - we've all had our fill of the evil going on all around us and affecting us and our families. I hate feeling helpless. I see it in others too - believers just shaking their heads. I just keep reaching out all the time and begging God to finally let it end. I think this world has been on life support for a long time now.

I have to remind myself of God's words to Jeremiah: "If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?"

The "time of trouble" such as has never been nor ever will be thereafter is yet to take place. We must watch and be ready...Jesuit Futurists who think Jesus is going to sneak into town and sneak out with them are going to be in for such a surprise....

 

[Soverign Grace]

I have to remind myself of God's words to Jeremiah: "If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?"

The "time of trouble" such as has never been nor ever will be thereafter is yet to take place. We must watch and be ready...Jesuit Futurists who think Jesus is going to sneak into town and sneak out with them are going to be in for such a surprise....

I don't know, it seems to me that we're already in that time. I read the news last night and it overwhelmed me. I have the tendency to be a little more sensitive than others - a "canary in the coal mine" but still, the amount of craziness is beyond human comprehension for any person. The ungodliness was just too great when I read the news. The craziness of those placed in positions over us is too evil to bear. Intelligent, sane people are the obscure, while lunatics are in positions of leadership. There is no way our country can go on this way, and yet another day comes, with a story crazier than the last. I get troubled after reading the news. I hope my prayers yield something - I know that no one knows the day when Christ will end it but in the Lord's Prayer we pray: "Thy kingdom come..." So maybe praying will hasten the end. I hope so.

I've started praying for specific crazy legislators to be removed. I prayed and our legislator was removed, although I don't know if we got one in who is any better. I don't know yet. No one seems to think this will work, but I saw it work when an old saint and I prayed for the removal of a corrupt principal. Please join me in praying for the removal of some of them. I read last night that Ocasio came up with a plan to eliminate all planes, buses, and cars within 10 years. Who even thinks like that? It's like letting a 1 year old drive a Mack truck. It's scary. We should pray for the removal of Soros because he's really doing a lot of damage. I know many believers think times will grow worse but I don't want to leave a worse generation for those who come after me. These times are bad enough.

 

[4Jesus]

If you heard a person speak the following quotes:
-"I am not sure I have," ... when asked if he'd ever asked God for forgiveness. "I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don't think so," he said. "I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't."
-"Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?" .... "I work hard, I'm an honorable person."

would you say they are a Christian? And if they are not a Christian, they are a satanist. Matthew 12:30 "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scatterth abroad".

The person who stated these quotes, is Donald Trump. The first quote is from Trump on God: 'I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness', in 2016. The second quote is from Trump: 'Why Do I Have to Repent or Ask for Forgiveness If I Am Not Making Mistakes?' (Video), in 2015. Trump has not uttered a word on the subject of following Jesus Christ since then. He has never mentioned Jesus Christ by name since then.

So is Trump a part of a secrety society? Who cares which faction he belongs to of his father the devil's kingdom. He is not a believer of the basic tenet of Christianity, of following Jesus Christ, by his words, across multiple years and sources.

All who are Christian and who follow Trump are being deceived into following a satanist.

Glory to God-the-Father and God-the-Son!