In case you miss the Rapture.

[Behold]

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A real believer, is born again.
This is the "body of Christ".........all of them.....they are "Christ's Body"...."the Body of Christ".
None of these will be left behind, once Christ comes for His "Bride"
So, if you are here after the Rapture, its because you are a Christ Rejector, never born again, or you were water baptized by a Cult that lied to you and told you that the water saved you......that it washed away your sin.
It didn't...They lied, and you got left.

Listen to me..
Do you think That God had His Boy shedding blood on a TREE and DIE.... so that WATER can save you, and wash away your sin" ??

WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, in that case......
Here is what is going to happen to you.
You will have to take the Mark of the Beast, if you want to eat and have water and a place to sleep........as the "son of perdition" will be running the Global economy.

Don't want to take it? They you get martyr'd.
Thats it.
There is your choice.

Now....Here is the part of the GRT TRB that is not taught very much....
Its this..
The Grt Trb starts, as the Time of the Gentiles ends.
So, in the time of the Gentiles, God has offered the "GIFT OF SALVATION< that is FREE to all who will BELIEVE.
See that?
THat is going to end, when the Grt Trb Starts, because the GRACE of GOD, will end, and you will have THIS.... 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.

So, all who are left behind, are in for a nightmare.......as you can't just "Believe" anymore., and have your "faith counted as Righteousness".
You have to "endure to the END"..... and that is going to HURT.
You'll die, unless you take the mark, as that is your ENDURING.

It will be "faith + works", .........not Grace Through Faith, as you have it now.

Dont make the mistake and end up in the Grt Trib, as it is going to be terrible beyond compare once the "man of Sin" stops pretending to be "Christ" and the man of peace.
He is bringing Hell with Him reader, and you dont want to be there.

Listen....
"now is the day....now is the accepted time".
"all that call on the Name of Jesus shall be SAVED".

"the will of God, is that you BELIEVE on JESUS< whom God SENT"

Jesus said...>"you must be born again".

Dont play with it......as God is not kidding.
This is REAL...... John 3:36

 

[marks]

It's the sheep and the goats.

If you've missed the rapture, and you've survived until Jesus returns, you want to end up a sheep, and not a goat. And if you are going to be a sheep and not a goat, that means that as the beast is hellbent to destroy every last Israelite, and defy God's prophecies, you have to be willing to defy the beast, and when one of Jesus' brothers is thirsty, you give them water. When they are naked, you give them clothes. When they are sick, you care for them. If you get caught, you'll die, and you'll have to defy the image of the beast, and die a martyr. But if you survive, you will counted sheep, and welcomed into God's kingdom.

Yes, it's better to trust in Jesus now.

Much love!

 

[Keraz]

You will have to take the Mark of the Beast,

No; Faithful Christians will not have to take the 'beasts' mark to survive.
Read Revelation 12:14, where those who kept their Covenant with God, Daniel 11:32, will be taken to a place of safety , on earth far away from the Anti-Christ.
Those who did violate the Covenant, will be the martyrs. Revelation 12:17

 

[ewq1938]

No one can "miss" the rapture. God knows who is meant to be raptured. Your belief in when it happens matters not to God.

 

[Davy]

The OP is so... funny!

There's no such thing written in God's Word as a rapture before the "great tribulation", so it's actually funny to hear deceived brethren say ignorant things like what will happen to you if you are 'left-behind'!

A simple study at the end of Luke 17 is very revealing to those who actually care about our Lord Jesus' Own Words. The subject there at the end of that chapter is about the one taken, and the other left which pre-tribbers love... to twist out of proportion (in ignorance they do because they didn't listen to Jesus there in Luke 17).

Christ's disciples asked Him, "Where, Lord?" after He mentioned about the two in the field, one taken and the other left. Jesus answered with an analogy that where the dead carcase is, that's where the fowls will be gathered. The analogy is about the first one taken in deception, as those fowls ("eagles") represent Satan and his host. And the Matthew 24:28 parallel Scripture says the same thing, except actually uses the word for "carcase", even in the original Greek.

So what we have in our times are fakes like Tim LaHaye, et al, that have made millions of dollars off the deceived and gullible by his Left-Behind series of books and movies which is nothing but fiction masked as God's truth.

 

[amigo de christo]

It's the sheep and the goats.

If you've missed the rapture, and you've survived until Jesus returns, you want to end up a sheep, and not a goat. And if you are going to be a sheep and not a goat, that means that as the beast is hellbent to destroy every last Israelite, and defy God's prophecies, you have to be willing to defy the beast, and when one of Jesus' brothers is thirsty, you give them water. When they are naked, you give them clothes. When they are sick, you care for them. If you get caught, you'll die, and you'll have to defy the image of the beast, and die a martyr. But if you survive, you will counted sheep, and welcomed into God's kingdom.

Yes, it's better to trust in Jesus now.

Much love!

What is coming and even now that which is , cannot be stopped . We are on an all out fast course to the end hour of all things .
Many will be betrayed and the wicked will be decieved and never know the hour .
Only the wise in Christ know the hour is getting late and we must be watching and be ye ready .
Be also prepared to lose everything for the sake of JESUS . Count all loss as only gain for Christ . The path
this world is on , was foretold long , long ago in that bible . And now we are witnessing the end time signs grow and swell daily .

 

[Behold]

There's no such thing written in God's Word as a rapture even in the original Greek.

Well first of all, there is no "original Greek" text.
There are about 30 Koine Greek texts, and a few of them are accepted...very few.
So, when you said "original greek", you proved you have no idea what you are talking about.
Can you read Koine Greek? I dont think you can....so, its best to not pretend you are a "greek authority".
Dont you agree?

Also, the word Iran is not in the bible........Yet it exists.
The word "White House" is not in the Greek, yet it exists.

So, the straw man, nonsense that you used.......>"the word is not in the _______"...is just one more proof that you are trying too hard to keep spinning your wheels.

Davy......You should listen more and talk less.......is what i believe.
As learning comes with your mouth closed and your ears open.
You should try it, as doing something new is good for you.

 

[Davy]

Well first of all, there is no "original Greek" text.
There are about 30 Koine Greek texts, and a few of them are accepted...very few.
So, when you said "original greek", you proved you have no idea what you are talking about.
Can you read Koine Greek? I dont think you can....so, its best to not pretend you are a "greek authority".
Dont you agree?

Also, the word Iran is not in the bible........Yet it exists.
The word "White House" is not in the Greek, yet it exists.

So, the straw man, nonsense that you used.......>"the word is not in the _______"...is just one more proof that you are trying too hard to keep spinning your wheels.

Davy......You should listen more and talk less.......is what i believe.
As learning comes with your mouth closed and your ears open.
You should try it, as doing something new is good for you.

I'm glad we don't have much longer to wait in order for the "great tribulation" to start with the pseudo-Christ showing up in Jerusalem, and those on the pre-trib rapture lie being told to gather to that false Christ like a dead "carcase". It will make it that much easier for Lord Jesus to distinguish between His faithful wise virgins who wait for Him vs. the foolish virgins that won't wait.

Luke 17:34-37
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

37 And they answered and said unto Him, "Where, Lord?" And He said unto them, "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together."
KJV



Matt 24:28-30
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
KJV

 

[Behold]

I'm glad we don't have much longer to wait in order for the "great tribulation" to start with the pseudo-Christ
KJV

Davy, The "Pseudo Christ"..........that would be exactly like your "Pseudo" Christianity...... right?

Let me ask you a question so that we can discover the real you.

Here is the Question.

Why does the Blood of Jesus that saves you, keep you saved ????

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Why does the Blood of Jesus that saves you, keep you saved ?

Great question! A: Because IT Is God's ALL Sufficient BLOOD! Amen?

 

[Behold]

Great question! A: Because IT Is God's ALL Sufficient BLOOD! Amen?

Because Adam fell, ... we are born with a problem.

And soon we commit our first sin that is related to the problem.

We can't solve this problem.

God understands this, and took full responsibility to solve it for us.

God came into this world, born of a Virgin, and died on The Cross shedding His Holy BLOOD.

= Problem solved. John 3:16-17

Will everyone allow this problem to be solved by God's Blood?
A.) No.
Some refuse it because they dont want it.

Some think they have it, but all they have is a water bath and a lie and a one way ticket to hell.

But for those who are washed BORN AGAIN in the Blood of God, Heaven has become their eternal home and God has become their eternal Father.

 

[n2thelight]

You have to "endure to the END"..... and that is going to HURT.

Don't recall scriptures saying those left behind would have to
Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
What makes you think the above does not mean all ?

John 17:15 "I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

Also what makes you think those raptured are better than those Christians in the past who were tortured and killed ?

Satan does not want your body ,he wants your soul

You will either have the seal or the mark no-one is flying out anywhere

 

[n2thelight]

Why are rapturist scared of the tribulation?

 

[n2thelight]

A real believer, is born again

Do you really understand what it means to be born again?

 

[n2thelight]

So, in that case......
Here is what is going to happen to you.
You will have to take the Mark of the Beast, if you want to eat and have water and a place to sleep........as the "son of perdition" will be running the Global economy.

How many people don't have that now?
Also how can satan go around killing people and have them believe he is Christ?

 

[ewq1938]

Pre-trib has the church rapturing away before the man of sin is revealed but Paul said the rapture would not happen until the man of sin was revealed.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (the rapture)
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, (the day of the rapture) except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


Pre-trib: church raptured BEFORE the man of sin is revealed.
the bible: church raptured AFTER the man of sin is revealed.

This proves rapture cannot happen before man of sin is revealed which proves the Great Tribulation will have started before the rapture occurs.

 

[Behold]

Don't recall scriptures saying those left behind would have to
Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
What makes you think the above does not mean all ?

I will show you this, but you'll have to find out for yourself, as you have been taught something about that verse that precludes you from understanding something about that verse.

I"ll answer your question like this, n2thelight.
= The day you realize that Christ is God.....
That day...
No, i mean REALLY UNDERSTAND this.........vs....."oh yeah, i know all that".
So, the day a believer, understands that God is Christ born in the Flesh.. 1 Timothy 3:16. John 1:10. ...is the day that they can begin to understand that GOD as Christ spoke prophetically, a LOT.
And when a person does not know this, or understand it,... then everytime they read a verse where Jesus is talking, teaching, Prophetically... they misapply it, most of the time...and so did their cult.

So, i'll show you this, and you can see about it.. Reader.

The verse says......>"endure to the END". = SAVED.

Now what "end" is that, reader?

The end of what?.........WHAT END ??

The end of your life?
The end of the Biden Presidency?
The end of the internet?
The end of the Covid virus?
THE END OF WHAT?
"""Endure to the END"........of WHAT?

Ok, i'll show you now what you have to understand, to be able to rightly divide the PROPHECY that Christ is giving in this verse, and one other.
Understand....He's not talking to the crowd, about them.....as the END He's talking about, comes much later.
Over 2000 yrs later.

Here is what you have to know. Its this.......The time of the Gentiles will end. And when it ends, God resumes His dealing with Israel.
And when that starts, ....when that starts......the Gospel that we know, that Paul gave us, in the "time of the Gentiles'..is OVER.
ITS OVER OVER OVER, done.
There is no more....>"justification by faith"...>there is no more....>"faith is counted as righteousness, without works'.
There is no more "FREE GIFT" "OF SALVATiON". There is no more...>"The GIFT of Righteousness"
THAT ENDS.
THAT Gospel will cease, end.......its over.

Then the Grt Trib starts.

Now look at the verse......Its says....to be ""saved"", = you have to ""ENDURE.""
So, see that?
That is not a FREE GIFT of Salvation.....is it?
That is not. "believe and be born again"....is it.
That is not "all who call on the Name of Jesus shall be saved"
NO its not.

You dont endure to get a GIFT.
Understand?

So then what is this "enduring" to "be SAVED".....all about?

Reader......That is Jesus prophetically telling that Crowd and you, that the 144,000 will be preaching a different Gospel then the one that WE will only are given for as long as the """time of the Gentiles"", exists.. And its almost over.
And once it ends......then the Gospel of the Grace of God, is OVER.....and in comes...this Gospel.....>"enduring"....>"keeping the law".. "works". + you have to believe in Jesus.
See that?
That is what the 144,000 will be preaching. They do not preach "saved by Grace through Faith"., as that Gospel ENDS when the Grt Trib starts.
And how do you know that this is the Great Trib and not the time of the Gentiles that Jesus is teaching us about in Matt 24?

You read Matthew 24:15.....and it talks about the "abomination of Desolation".....and that reader, is when the DEVIL is here, pretending to be Jesus, in the GREAT TRIB.
So, Matthew 24:13 says....."endure to the end'..... and this is connected to Matthew 24:15 that says....>"abomination of Desolation".
ITS only 2 Verses LATER .....Its the same context.
So, those verses, show GOD as Christ talking about the Great Tribulation, and what you have do to be saved, = THEN..
You have to ""ENDURE to the END""...of your life, or till the end of the Grt Trib.
You'll die if you end up in it...so, be sure you endure till you are slaughtered and do not take the Mark of the Beast.

So, those verses..., you dont apply those verses to you, as you are in the ""time of the Gentiles""., where God's Grace allows you to have Salvation as a GIFT.
"the GIFT of Salvation"..."The Gift of Righteousness".
See that?
If the Rapture occurs today, and you are left, then that "endure to the end" verse now applies to you.
So in that case, get ready to endure, and die.
Get ready to die a Martyr, or you can take the Mark and end up with the Devil for Eternity.
That's not a situation you want to ENDURE....is it?

So, if you are not born again then "today is the day of Salvation"
Do not wait.
Never wait.
Trust in Jesus., and Let God give you the new Birth....and you are SAFE.

 

[Behold]

Why are rapturist scared of the tribulation?

The NT says to the born again....that we can't even know what God has planned for us....as we have no ability to even understand the wonder of it.

And it the same for the Great Trib........as we can't even begin to know the Horror of the Devil unleashed...... and Jesus bringing Vengeance to this world of Unbelievers.

 

[ewq1938]

If the Rapture occurs today, and you are left, then that verse now applies to you.

The rapture can't happen today or even very soon. Paul said two major events have to happen before the rapture happens.

1. Part of the church commits Apostasy.
2. The man of sin is revealed.

That places the rapture after the Great Tribulation has started. Both Paul and Christ placed it after the Great Tribulation had ended making the rapture post-trib.


1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.(second coming reference)
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord (second coming reference) shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven (second coming reference) with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (the resurrection of the dead in Christ)
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (the rapture)

The resurrection only happens at the second coming and the second coming can only happen after the trib has ended, and since the verses tell us the rapture happens AFTER the resurrection and second coming means these verses decisively prove the rapture is post-trib not pre-trib.

It's that simple.

Christ also spoke of the rapture but used the wording of saints being gathered together, and no surprise, placed it after the end of the Great Tribulation.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation (great tribulation has ended) of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven(second coming reference): and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming (second coming reference) in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect (*another way to speak of the Rapture) from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

*(also see 2nd Thessalonians 2:1 for the same language regarding the Rapture ie: a gathering)

 

[Behold]

This proves rapture cannot happen before man of sin is revealed which proves the Great Tribulation will have started before the rapture occurs.

You should take some time off and study the "2nd Advent", along with 1 Thessalonians 1:8.