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The rapture can't happen today or even very soon. Paul said two major events have to happen before the rapture happens.

1. Part of the church commits Apostasy.
2. The man of sin is revealed.

You have no idea what that "Apostasy" is... and you have apparently not realized what the 2nd Advent is all about.
 

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Not a smart question.
But it is one that is stated by someone who has no idea what God's Tribulation and the Devil's time here, will be like.


The devil will be cast out of heaven and will start a war against Christians, see the end of Revelation 12. That is the Great Tribulation Christ described in the Olivet Discourse and what is seen in Revelation 11 and 13. It will last for 42 months. At the end of Revelation 11 we see the wrath of God begin which is at the 7th trump. Nothing before the 7th trump is the wrath of God. It's the wrath of satan. It is pre-trib that does not understand this correctly as it wrongly places the wrath of God before the bible places it.

The Great Tribulation is during the 6th trump but God's wrath first comes at the 7th trump:

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded ; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come , and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

If God's wrath had already been present before the 7th trump it could not be said his wrath has come when the 7th trump sounds. Clearly this is when God's wrath begins!

This proves the Great Tribulation is not God's wrath. Saints are beheaded during the Great Tribulation. Why would God have his own saints beheaded? That clearly isn't God's wrath against his own people. It's Satan's wrath which is happening during the Great Tribulation and the 6th trumpet. Revelation 12 tells us he comes with great wrath because his time is short. It's Satan's wrath that is used to persecute the saints and make them suffer Great Tribulation and horrible deaths.

Prophecy that Christian saints would be killed during the Great Tribulation:

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Satan's wrath and him starting the Great Tribulation which targets Christians:

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath , because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed , which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


The Christian saints killed during Satan's wrathful Great Tribulation:

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them : and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


The Christian saints killed during Satan's wrathful Great Tribulation are resurrected:

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God , and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years .

Its Satan's wrath not God's wrath during the Great Tribulation. God's wrath begins at the 7th trump.

Joh_16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.


Tribulation comes from the enemy. The great Tribulation is from Satan. This is very basic biblical knowledge.


Rom_12:12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

2Co_1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

2Co_7:4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.

1Th_3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
 

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No, are you? I see you never read my signature or you wouldn't ask that question.

It says you are a "christian".
Well, the devil uses that as bumper sticker....so, what else you got?

Take your time....im sure you can figure it out.
 

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The NT says to the born again....that we can't even know what God has planned for us....as we have no ability to even understand the wonder of it.

And it the same for the Great Trib........as we can't even begin to know the Horror of the Devil unleashed...... and Jesus bringing Vengeance to this world of Unbelievers.

What exactly do you think satan will be down here doing ?The only people Satan will kill are the 2 witnesses, Christ returns 3 days later .His only 2nd coming ,the last trump
 

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What exactly do you think satan will be down here doing ?The only people Satan will kill are the 2 witnesses, Christ returns 3 days later .His only 2nd coming ,the last trump


For the 7 yrs that the "son of perdition" is here.....he'll be running the Global Economy.

Did you read my Thread i posted about a year ago?

"In comes the Devil"?

It might still be around....

All who are here the first 3.5 yrs of the Grt Trb, will believe that Satan is "Christ", as he will perform "signs and wonders", and deceive the world.
He will be a "man of Peace"......a Religious world leader.

Thats part 1.

Currently..
If you live in Israel, where i have my other home, you'll discover that the Religious Jews there.... believe they have found their "messiah".
He's in Israel.
His face is on BUSES that are the city transportation.
Yeah, really.

CNN wont tell you about that one, and MSNBC does not care, as they are too busy trying to create Christ Rejecting social chaos and lead American into unstoppable Socialism and worse.

If you've been watching the WORLD CABLE NEWS recently, you'll note that at the same time Putin and China (God and Magog) are now JOINED........the weakest American President of all time, and the most senile is now running the USA.
While In Israel, a real Leader, NetanyaHu, was kicked out, and a novice at the wheel, is in power.

God is in Control, and i can tell you that Trump and Netanyahu, kept the world safe......and this has been REMOVED.

See, the Devil is getting ready to run this world, and that is Why COVID is become such an ATTENTION, all over the planet.
Sure, its a virus, but its more then that...>Its a FOCUS, to keep you from noticing what is happening in this world.
God is bringing the end into VIEW., but few see it, as they have all this STUFF in front of their SCREENS.

Better wake up believers.....>Jesus is coming SOON.

Listen.....What happened to those 2 REAL Leaders.... is very significant, as it allows the final end to begin, very soon.
 
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Precious friend, I have heard this speculation for 43 years now.
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Its here.

How do you know?
Because of Israel, becoming a nation.
That started the process.

Iran is now about to fire missles.
They have them.......as Russia provided them.
'Mid range" Ballistic Missiles. They didnt have them 43 yrs ago.
These can turn Israel into a sand pit made of GLASS.
And 43 Yrs ago, Israel was not sending viruses into the Nuke Plant Computers in iran to try to slow down what they have created.

In the last WEEK.......Israel is running war games with their Jets.
Some American's, have been helping to coordinate, as they are going to hit Iran's nuke plants.

But here is the main sign.......of the end times.

Its only one.

"As in the days of NOE".....As in the days of NOAH, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be".

what is that , Grace Ambassador?
What is that sign, that has not been seen, since Noah was on that ARK, and it is now a sign seen all over the WORLD.

What is it?

Well, why did God flood the world?
A.) to stop Homosexual perversion.....as the entire planet had become.....sexually perverse.

This is the SIGN of the end times, that brings in Jesus to get His Bride just before Satan comes into power.

Reader.....look around.
What do you see all over the WORLD.

You see, HOMOSEXUALITY....everywhere you look.

Gay marriage.
Gay adoption.
Gay curriculum in Elementary School
Gay's in the Pulpit.
Gay's accepted by CHRISTIANS all over the world.
Transgender RIGHTS
GAY RIGHTS.

See all that?
That is...."as in the DAYS OF NOAH"........and God drowned THEM OUT.

See that SIGN?

That is THE SIGN.....the ONE.
And that one was not here 43 yrs ago, Grace Ambassador.
Believe it.
 

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For the 7 yrs that the "son of perdition" is here.....he'll be running the Global Economy.

Did you read my Thread i posted about a year ago?

"In comes the Devil"?
For the 7 yrs that the "son of perdition" is here.....he'll be running the Global Economy.

Did you read my Thread i posted about a year ago?

"In comes the Devil"?

It might still be around....

All who are here the first 3.5 yrs of the Grt Trb, will believe that Satan is "Christ", as he will perform "signs and wonders", and deceive the world.
He will be a "man of Peace"......a Religious world leader.

Thats part 1.

Currently..
If you live in Israel, where i have my other home, you'll discover that the Religious Jews there.... believe they have found their "messiah".
He's in Israel.
His face is on BUSES that are the city transportation.
Yeah, really.

CNN wont tell you about that one, and MSNBC does not care, as they are too busy trying to create Christ Rejecting social chaos and lead American into unstoppable Socialism and worse.

If you've been watching the WORLD CABLE NEWS recently, you'll note that at the same time Putin and China (God and Magog) are now JOINED........the weakest American President of all time, and the most senile is now running the USA.
While In Israel, a real Leader, NetanyaHu, was kicked out, and a novice at the wheel, is in power.

God is in Control, and i can tell you that Trump and Netanyahu, kept the world safe......and this has been REMOVED.

See, the Devil is getting ready to run this world, and that is Why COVID is become such an ATTENTION, all over the planet.
Sure, its a virus, but its more then that...>Its a FOCUS, to keep you from noticing what is happening in this world.
God is bringing the end into VIEW., but few see it, as they have all this STUFF in front of their SCREENS.

Better wake up believers.....>Jesus is coming SOON.

Listen.....What happened to those 2 REAL Leaders.... is very significant, as it allows the final end to begin, very soon.

Only a Christian can be deceived and satans reign is only 6 months

Yes we will have a one world government, which will fall apart(deadly wound) that's when satan appears on this earth, live and in color.at which time it turns into a one world religion as the world will believe satan to be Christ.

We will not gather back to Christ until after ,period .
 

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Only a Christian can be deceived.

Eevery person who is not born again, is deceived by the Devil.
If not, they would all get saved.
The NT, Paul teaching says that their MIND IS BLINDED by Satan, or they would see their need for JESUS.

To be "mind blinded" is deception.....so, all unbelievers are deceived.

Christians become deceived when they dont live in this verse........ Hebrews 13:9.

That verse is a must do....as if the believer does not do what that verse says to do with your heart, then you will be deceived and end up in a cult.
 

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Only a Christian can be deceived and satans reign is only 6 months


The Great Tribulation is 42 months long. Satan will be imprisoned for a long time then he will have a short time to continue and then he will be in the lake of fire.
 

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The Great Tribulation is 42 months long. Satan will be imprisoned for a long time then he will have a short time to continue and then he will be in the lake of fire.

The time was cut short


Revelation 9:2 "And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit

Revelation 9:3 "And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."

This locust army that comes upon the earth is Satan's army of demonic forces. They are the fallen angels, and demons, both coming with Satan, and those that are already here upon the earth

Revelation 9:4 "And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads."

Revelation 9:5 "And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man."

Notice the 5 months in v5

The time "locust" has four stages, as stated in Joel 1. The part of the locust that exists in the swarming stage is five months. That five months staging period is always between May and September; so God is even giving us the season, or time frame when Antichrist will appear. And by that season, we have an hint of when the seventh trumpet will sound, and Jesus Christ will appear. However that instant is known only to the Father.
 

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That five months staging period is always between May and September; so God is even giving us the season, or time frame when Antichrist will appear. And by that season, we have an hint of when the seventh trumpet will sound, and Jesus Christ will appear. However that instant is known only to the Father.

The Great Tribulation is the 6th trump, which is 42 months long. There is a period of time in the 5th trump preceding the Great Tribulation which is 5 months but that targets those not sealed. The two time periods are at different times. The 5 months is not the Great Tribulation.
 
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The time was cut short

This wont matter to the Body of Christ, as we wont be here.

Let me show you something to think about.

IN the time of the Gentiles, God offers Jesus as "the way" to Heaven. John 14:6
In the Great Trib, God does not offer this "Gift of Salvation".

What does this mean?
It means that God is not going to put the born again, who are already "saved by Grace', in a situation in the world, where you are not.

Enter : "The Rapture".
 

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This wont matter to the Body of Christ, as we wont be here.

The body of Christ will be in the Great Tribulation. It was shortened so some of them will survive.
 

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The body of Christ will be in the Great Tribulation. It was shortened so some of them will survive.

If you are in the Grt Trib, its because Christ is not in you.

Listen, if the Born again are in the Great Trib, then God is in it, and Christ also, as they are IN all the Born again.
See that?

Notice this..

""For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until HE be taken out of the way.""

This verse is telling us that the Holy Spirit...who is the HE....."will be taken out of the way"..

In other words..> THE HOLY SPIRIT will leave the planet and this allows the devil to come in to power..
So, as the Holy Spirit leaves, so do the Born again, to meet The Lord just before the Grt Trib starts.
 
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