Is a Covenant given to the Assembly ?

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dan p

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Hi to all , and many believers say that God has given a Covenant to the Body of Christ ?

There are only 4 Covenants that are still be be in Operation , in the Future !!

#1 , The New Covenant , which concerns Israel !

#2 , The Palestinian Covenant which concerns the Land given to Israel !!

#3 , The Davidic Covenant , where Christ sits on David's Throne in the Millennium !!

#4 , And the Abrahamic Covenants that will be in Operation , during the Millennium ans explains how Gentiles will be saved during the Millennium !!

These Covenants all concern Israel and do NOT concern the Body of Christ !!

So , where is the SO-CALLED Covenant to the Body of Christ as Paul says that there are no Covenant for the Body in Eph 2 , dan p
 

Jake

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Those in Christ are Israel now.

"And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance." (Hebrews 9:15)

New Covenant

"Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, 'Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the NEW COVENANT, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.' " (Matthew 26:27-28).
 

dan p

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Those in Christ are Israel now.

"And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance." (Hebrews 9:15)

New Covenant

"Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, 'Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the NEW COVENANT, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.' " (Matthew 26:27-28).

Hi , and if anyone reads Matt 26:17 , the CONTEXT is all Jewish because it is talking about the PASSOVER and that is for Israel and then verse 29 , says that Jesus will ONLY drink it anew in the in my Fathers Kingdom , so whioch Kingdom is that , PRAY TELL ??

Will you explain what Heb 9:15 means ??

Is that for Israel ??

Or is it for Gentiles ?

waiting for your reply ??

dan p
 

Jake

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The Bible is written for all people, everywhere, the New Covenant are for those ALL in Christ.

Of course, the context is Jewish, Jesus was Jewish and He was also the PASSOVER LAMB, because of His sacrifice and resurrection, the old covenant has been replaced by the new covenant - for all those in Christ, all believers, regardless of nationality, bloodline, country, are partaking of the new covenant.

We are ONE body, united in Christ. Jesus prayed that we would all be one as He and the Father are One, not two, but One.

We are now partakers of His divine nature, we are spiritually living in the Kingdom of God, we have eternal life now, for all those in Christ, this is reality.

With all due respect, you are taking the focus off of Christ and His Kingdom, our participation in His Kingdom and placing it on something that doesn't even exist, as in, another gospel.

This is why, in the other thread, I posted about how the gospel is about His Kingdom and our participation in that Kingdom. God does not have one set of people doing something different, while another is doing something else, because it's about ONE Kingdom - not two.
 

dan p

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The Bible is written for all people, everywhere, the New Covenant are for those ALL in Christ.

Of course, the context is Jewish, Jesus was Jewish and He was also the PASSOVER LAMB, because of His sacrifice and resurrection, the old covenant has been replaced by the new covenant - for all those in Christ, all believers, regardless of nationality, bloodline, country, are partaking of the new covenant.

We are ONE body, united in Christ. Jesus prayed that we would all be one as He and the Father are One, not two, but One.

We are now partakers of His divine nature, we are spiritually living in the Kingdom of God, we have eternal life now, for all those in Christ, this is reality.

With all due respect, you are taking the focus off of Christ and His Kingdom, our participation in His Kingdom and placing it on something that doesn't even exist, as in, another gospel.

This is why, in the other thread, I posted about how the gospel is about His Kingdom and our participation in that Kingdom. God does not have one set of people doing something different, while another is doing something else, because it's about ONE Kingdom - not two.


Hi , and I will have to respond Saturday , as my time is gone .

The 12 apostles were NEVER " in Christ " nor will a verse be found because Paul is the One the devolpes and tell us that only the Body of Christ are " in Christ " !!

Jesus never says the the Jewish assembly were in the Body of Christ !!

I will post what Heb 9:15 is saying to only Israel , because that is the CONTEXT , dan p
 

Prentis

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Jesus prays that those who follow him would be one with him, and with each other... Thus being his body.

The most basic things of the gospel are that we are one in Christ, through one baptism, one spirit.

These ideas are so far removed from the power of the gospel.... The life of Christ is there whenever 2 or 3 truly come together in oneness with him. Then his Spirit falls! We are called to walk by a new power... These kinds of beliefs can only survive because the world sees none of this power, and thus has to try and make it's own understanding of things.
 

dan p

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Galatians 1:8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!"
You're confusing "grace" with the "law".

Moses was redeemed through the law...As was everyone else before Christs redemptive blood was shed.

Now...By the way you have been continually harping on this, from thread to thread, it leaves the reader with two possibilities...Either you are being deliberately obtuse, OR you are not a serious contender for the faith. Which is it?
The Bible is written for all people, everywhere, the New Covenant are for those ALL in Christ.

Of course, the context is Jewish, Jesus was Jewish and He was also the PASSOVER LAMB, because of His sacrifice and resurrection, the old covenant has been replaced by the new covenant - for all those in Christ, all believers, regardless of nationality, bloodline, country, are partaking of the new covenant.

We are ONE body, united in Christ. Jesus prayed that we would all be one as He and the Father are One, not two, but One.

We are now partakers of His divine nature, we are spiritually living in the Kingdom of God, we have eternal life now, for all those in Christ, this is reality.

With all due respect, you are taking the focus off of Christ and His Kingdom, our participation in His Kingdom and placing it on something that doesn't even exist, as in, another gospel.

This is why, in the other thread, I posted about how the gospel is about His Kingdom and our participation in that Kingdom. God does not have one set of people doing something different, while another is doing something else, because it's about ONE Kingdom - not two.


Hi , and I believe in the Law of Moses that Jesus and the 12 preached .

But Christ reached out and in Acts 9:6 appointed another Apostle , that preached NOT what Jesus or the 12 spoke of , and that is the Dispensation of Grace Eph 3:1-9 ,

I am sorry that you have questioned , that what I have written is NOT SERIOUS , and my FOCUS is on what the Risen Christ gave to Paul in Gal 1:11 and 12 , dan p
 

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"Jesus and the 12" did not "preach the Law of Moses". They "preached" FULFILLMENT of the law.

And...Why wouldyou be sorry for something someone else said?
 

dan p

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Hi , and I believe in the Law of Moses that Jesus and the 12 preached .

But Christ reached out and in Acts 9:6 appointed another Apostle , that preached NOT what Jesus or the 12 spoke of , and that is the Dispensation of Grace Eph 3:1-9 ,

I am not sorry that you have questioned , that what I have written is NOT SERIOUS , and my FOCUS is on what the Risen Christ gave to Paul in Gal 1:11 and 12 , dan p
"Jesus and the 12" did not "preach the Law of Moses". They "preached" FULFILLMENT of the law.

And...Why wouldyou be sorry for something someone else said?


Hi , and I mean that someone believes that my questions are not FOCUSED on Christ ! dan p