I used to read mine during the tiems in my life when I wasn't attending church even though I never stopped believing. (like the Journey song says). I didn't really see any harm in horroscopes at the time, but I wouldn't touch anything else like Tarrot and Runes as I knew they were evil. When I was 19 I had my furtune read and I've asked God to forgive me since then and I'm still bad for having done it. IWith horoscopes though i always found the calculation of charts and the movement sof planets fascinating even though I never saw any truth in what came from it. I used to think that surely there was no harm in astrology. Ive wised up now and I don't go near them. The reason why I've brought this topic up now is because I happened to glance at one today while doing a word puzzle in the local papaer and I thought how it had absolutly no bearing on what is going on in my life whatsoever I was just wondering really is astrology something which is innocent as it seems so inaccurate it can't reveal anything or is it a black art which all good Christians should shun Since the movements of stars and planets is controlled by God is man wrong to try to discern anything from their patterns. There's certainly no black magic or idolatry involved but the Bible especially in the book of Acts tels us that this sort of thing is wrong. Certainly this is true with regards for eading palms or cards but what about astrology?
Is Astrology Evil?
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Basing your choices and day-to-day decisions on something supernatural OTHER than God is an absolute no-win scenerio.
I certainly agree fully with your statement about the supernatural since messing aroudn wtih that kind of thing is just asking for trouble, not to mention a one way ticket do Hell. The thing I'm pondering is that since the stars are planets are set in motion by God, and are totally uner his control, would it therefore be sinful to try and discern anything from them. Would you really be having anything to do with the supernatural? I;m not sure really just how seriously a lot of these new age types take astrology, do they actually live by it? I don't know, but soem of the new age things that people have these days gie me the creeps. I fyou trust something like that and live by it then you can't be living the way God wants you to so I guess puttin gthe supernatural to one side it can still be a slippery slope.
Let me ask you a question: Why exactly would Jesus, who is open to intimately speaking with you through prayer want to use the placement and alignment of the starts to give you guidance on your life?
Especially when Jesus has provided no scripturally based, verifiable instructions on how to read/process/confirm the 'information' gained via astrology.
Do you really think non-Christian people and publications will provide the Christ-based directions to ensure that what is 'divined' or 'discerned' is correct?
Especially when Jesus has provided no scripturally based, verifiable instructions on how to read/process/confirm the 'information' gained via astrology.
Do you really think non-Christian people and publications will provide the Christ-based directions to ensure that what is 'divined' or 'discerned' is correct?
Oh no I don't think he'd be very happy if people looked to the stars for all their answers.
Would it be a sin just to okk at your horroscope out of curiosity just to see what it say's not because you are trying to predict the future.
Would it be a sin just to okk at your horroscope out of curiosity just to see what it say's not because you are trying to predict the future.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
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astrology, form of divination based on the theory that the movements of the celestial bodies-the stars, the planets, the sun, and the moon-influence human affairs and determine the course of events. Celestial phenomena have been the object of religious sentiment since earliest times (see moon worship; sun worship). Columbia Encyclopedia
The study of the heavenly bodies as predicting the fate of individuals was ultimately due to the Babylonians.
Neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. Lev.19:26
There shall not be found among you any ... that useth divination, or an observer of times.... For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD Dt.18:10-12
So the king summoned the magicians, enchanters, sorcerers and astrologers to tell him what he had dreamed."Daniel 2:2
Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, 'The secret which the king has demanded, the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, and the soothsayers cannot declare to the king. But there is a God in heaven who reveals secrets, and He has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what will be in the latter days. Your dream, and the visions of your head upon your bed, were these…Daniel 2:27-28 NKJ,
Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Is.47:1314
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.Jer.10:2
Relying on that which is part of the creation for answers, guidance, and instruction is idolatry. We need to look only to God for answers and guidance. And He has provided His inspired word for us: 2Tim. 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and firmly believed, knowing those from whom you learned, [sup]15[/sup] and that from childhood you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. [sup]16[/sup] All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, [sup]17[/sup] so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
The study of the heavenly bodies as predicting the fate of individuals was ultimately due to the Babylonians.
Neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. Lev.19:26
There shall not be found among you any ... that useth divination, or an observer of times.... For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD Dt.18:10-12
So the king summoned the magicians, enchanters, sorcerers and astrologers to tell him what he had dreamed."Daniel 2:2
Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, 'The secret which the king has demanded, the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, and the soothsayers cannot declare to the king. But there is a God in heaven who reveals secrets, and He has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what will be in the latter days. Your dream, and the visions of your head upon your bed, were these…Daniel 2:27-28 NKJ,
Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Is.47:1314
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.Jer.10:2
Relying on that which is part of the creation for answers, guidance, and instruction is idolatry. We need to look only to God for answers and guidance. And He has provided His inspired word for us: 2Tim. 3:14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and firmly believed, knowing those from whom you learned, [sup]15[/sup] and that from childhood you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. [sup]16[/sup] All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, [sup]17[/sup] so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
I really do feel ashamed about the time I had a Tarrot reading, but I wasn't really a thinking CHristian then. I have prayed for forgiveness and will never ever do it again.
I agree with Templar, you are doing a flyby Paul. Your statements are adding no substance to the discussion.
It is far more involved than I have time for here. Read: The Witness of the Stars by E. W. Bullinger
I havn't got time to read it, what does it say? Anyone?
Anyway! Let's not deviate. As Christians we all agree that divination and trying to predict the future is not simething we should be involved in if we have the odd peak at a horroscope, just to see what it say's are we sinning? Is it one of satan's ways of leading us away from trusting Jesus by getting us to put our trust in a very dubious kind of discernment? I was told as child that fortune tellers were the agents of the devil, but as a 19 year old I thought I knew better. I have repented and will not make tht mistake again.
Anyway! Let's not deviate. As Christians we all agree that divination and trying to predict the future is not simething we should be involved in if we have the odd peak at a horroscope, just to see what it say's are we sinning? Is it one of satan's ways of leading us away from trusting Jesus by getting us to put our trust in a very dubious kind of discernment? I was told as child that fortune tellers were the agents of the devil, but as a 19 year old I thought I knew better. I have repented and will not make tht mistake again.
If you can't manage a Reader's Digest brief synopsis to explain how it pertains to this discussion, I'll have to pass.
Lucifer has always tried to corrupted what God has given us. Do not throw the baby out with the bath water.
http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/ Look at the Table of Contents
[quoteIf you can't manage a Reader's Digest brief synopsis to explain how it pertains to this discussion, I'll have to pass.] [/quote]
I'm supposed to know that am I? If he hasn't got time for a poper anwer then I don't have time for his article.
When you have a discussion you don't go around saying thigns like "just read this cos I can't be bothered with a proper answer."
I'm supposed to know that am I? If he hasn't got time for a poper anwer then I don't have time for his article.
When you have a discussion you don't go around saying thigns like "just read this cos I can't be bothered with a proper answer."
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I agree with Paul. Reading the stars is like sex (..wait for the analogy, please.)
God created sex for the intimacy, pleasure and procreation between a man and a woman. It's a beautiful thing. But Satan can twist it to be something despicable and profane to God (porn, sex rituals, homosexuality, S&M, etc.) All of that doens't mean sex is bad, just that it was given a bad use.
Reading the stars is what we are SUPPOSED to do. Thats why God put them there. When the disciples asked Jesus when He'd be coming back, He gave them a set of lunar, solar and stellar signs they were (are) suposed to be on the look out for. However, Satan once again twisted things. 1st. He changed the times! He threw out God's hebrew clock and replaced it with a Roman one leaving us out of sync with God's events. 2nd. He created astrology and made the heavens a divination scheme for our personal gain and benefit.
So all this doesn;t mean reading the stars is bad, just that it was given a bad use.
I agree to the point but he still confuses too much to come drop something so big with just the barest explanation ... the meaning of occult is HIDDEN and in the way he comes in with "594 comes before 666" and "reading the stars was done before satan" ... Paul, you may as well be dropping occult knowledge if you cant explain yourself better ... if you cant be bothered to take the time to explain then quit dropping these esoteric/ obscure thought bombs into a thread that does nothing but add confusion.
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