Is Generational curses for today?

[bbyrd009]

And he wont heal you? Is that what your saying.

You are asking me if Christ will physically heal someone, not spiritually, and in the process violate "you reap what you sow."

No, i don't think Christ will heal you physically, for the same reason you are not going to show up at a children's cancer ward today, ok. No offense meant there, but i don't think there is any Scriptural backing for that, although i do believe that spiritual healing does often manifest in the physical.

 

[Job]

If smoking is a sin and I continue to smoke, I am willfully sinning.

Doesn't take an Einstein to figure that one out.

And, if we sin willfully there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins.

Translation: If we willingly light up, the Blood of Jesus no longer covers our sins.


Conclusion: All smokers go to hell.

 

[Helen]

@Sword ...sorry for messing up the intent of your Thread.
It's easy to derail a thread while not intending to.
Someone casually mentioned smoking and I unfortunately rabbit-trailed after it. Sorry....it was not the subject of the thread. My bad.

( I just thought I was showing that "I" see smoking in the same light as gluttony, sun bathing foolishly, and all the other foolish things that we Christians take health risks on, ) In attempt to respond to your post #5
It was not my intent to sidetrack from the OP. Sorry.

As for the OP "Is Generational Curses for Today".....as in post #9
I totally agree with you...NO, the curse has been removed. Yay!

I like Prov 26:2
"As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come." As we know..the curse has been stopped dead in it's tracks. ✟

We have a preacher friend who built up his ministry for a few years...by going to different churches, specifically to cut people free from the curse of their family traits.
We even fell for it at one time ourselves before doubting it's origin!
It seemed to take the place of the "casting out of spirits" popular wave, that went through the churches in the 80's again. These 'waves' come and go...then later the Toronto Blessing wave swept through ...

 

[lforrest]

I thought Prov 26:2 referred to curses, like Balaam was supposed to do against Israel but couldn't. They were under God's protection.

The verse about no more curses Rev 22:3 is primarily talking about death brought by the fall but it also includes every other curse.

My unsupported theory about curses is they are like an accusation. if the curse is undeserved it doesn't alight. That would go for Christians and non Christians.

Now if someone is blameless in Jesus Christ a curse can not come upon them. But suppose that someone sins? The flesh still faces the repercussions of sin. So I think generational curses are possible, but they are limited to areas of one's life where sanctification is still necessary.

 

[aspen]

Addiction, abuse, criminal behavior are all generational curses. There are also weird connections between grandparents who went hungry in the depression and diabetes in grandchildren. Studies of AIDS immunity in prostitutes who had ancestors who caught the plague and survived, clear back in the Middle Ages. There is still a lot we do not understand

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I would say it is a sin. If you smoke and are aware its destroying your lungs and continue to commit suicide slowly. How could that be of God. and what ever is not of God is sin.

You are wrong here.
People eat to access and no one says they are sinners.
If a person can sit down and relax and light up for enjoyment and praise God for that enjoyment, how can you be so judgmental and call that a sin.
If a diabetic sits down and eats a big piece of cake and praises God for the enjoyment of it, how can you call them a sinner.
It's your judgment that is the sin.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I believe generational curses exist until we are born again and then believe God has lifted those curses from us.
This is a teaching that most churches I've attended do not teach.

 

[amadeus]

I would say it is a sin. If you smoke and are aware its destroying your lungs and continue to commit suicide slowly. How could that be of God. and what ever is not of God is sin.

Of course, I only tried smoking twice in my life and it never took with me, so maybe my answer would be biased. But, here I go seemingly perhaps as the "devil's" advocate:

How does anyone who reads about all of the warnings know that those warnings are valid? If we are of God and do not know that the warnings reflect God's thinking on the matter, how do we know we are not OK when we continue to smoke?

What was it that God created? Did it not also include tobacco plants?

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Gen 1:31

Were tobacco plants not included in the "very good"?

Whether or not it is sin, doesn't depend on what is in our heart when we chose to smoke or continue to smoke after meeting the Master?

While it is granted that a smoker may have the wrong attitude when he smokes, who but God really knows what is in the man's heart. I have known more than one smoker who by all fruits I could see was a "good' person. Why not leave them to God's final judgment? If they are sincere and He wants them to stop smoking will He not speak to their heart?

 

[amadeus]

@Sword
On the OP question, you may have muddied the waters for me, with your answer @bbyrd009 in your post #3:

bbyrd009: nonetheless, sons tend to follow their fathers line of work, children tend to the same habits as their parents, etc. If your parents smoked, you are more likely to smoke. Ergo, the father's sins are visited upon the children

Sword: And the like of that are how many millions miles away from the thread content? W rare talking about generational curses. Nothing to do with what you are talking about so whjy would you want to bring in more confusion when they are nothing to do with each other.

You say "many millions of miles away", but the sins and sinful ways of parents, [even parents who have met Jesus] do have an adverse affect on children living in their homes. God certainly knows this. Please clarify why it would not be considered a part of a "generational curse". Remember that God has not changed even though His covenant for one people may not be the same as His covenant with another people. This is one reason by the OT can be so valuable to us today, is it not?

Thanks for your consideration.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, I have not read all the post, just a few. so, I'll reply. there have never been any such thing as a generational curse, yesterday nor today. scripture, Exodus 20:5 "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me". I hope one sees that at the end, "of them that hate me".
Likewise, Ezekiel 18:1 "The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying, 2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge? 3 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel". WHY?, Ezekiel 18:4-9 "Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. 5 But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, 6 And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman, 7 And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment; 8 He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man, 9 Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD".

so there are no GENERATIONAL CURSES. as the old saying the fruit don't fall far from the tree. yes, that's an old wives tale. but there is a "WIND" a Spirit that can carry that fallen fruit far from that tree.

Peace in Christ.