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[SIZE=10pt]Is GOOD news BAD news?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Christianity is not a person saving himself but rather Jesus, the Mighty one, saving the person.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]This alert is an annoyance to happy, inhumane exploiters, heretics and their children.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]To the benevolent, Christ seeking, honest, children of the Most High,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]whose master should be only Jesus, and who sensed that something was wrong,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]it is the joy laden solution, into >>> manifold, unspeakable, graciousness from BOTH.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Happily run to >> Jesus, the multiple able and, Isaiah predicted, precious One.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]That is what our wise Israelite, predecessors did, starting in 30 A.D.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Isa.12[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][3] With (great) joy, you (the respectful children of the Most High),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]shall draw water (the precious Holy Spirit),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]out of the Wells of Salvation > (the Apostles, through Baptism)
[4
] In that day, (of the Apostles Teachings), you (convert) shall say:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Praise [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]the LORD (Jesus who came from heaven),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Call upon [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]Jesus’ name, (starting at Baptism).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Declare[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] Jesus’ (good) deeds,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]that he did among the people, (26 – 30 A.D. >> the Apostles >>)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Make mention[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] that Jesus’ name (status), is exalted (more than before his incarnation).
[5
] [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]Sing (merrily) to the LORD[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] (Jesus),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]for he has done excellent things (for those who accept).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]These things are known the entire earth.
[6
] [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]Cry out and (happily) shout[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt],[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]you inhabitant of (spiritual) Zion, (the Christian Apostles and converts)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]for great is the Holy One of Israel (Jesus),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]in the midst of you (and his Father in you)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]After appropriate baptism, calling on Jesus, there is great JOY in the person, [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]from the Spirit.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Acts.13[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][52] The (baptized) disciples were filled with [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]happiness[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] and with the Holy Spirit.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Theologians deny the JOY in many ways.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]This baptized person, could now spontaneously worship “in Spirit and in sincerity”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]because of gifts from GOD and Christ but through Christ.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The person does not need to congregate to worship GOD and Christ anymore,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]like the discarded Temple worship.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]This is all individual and direct to the individual.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]As the Scripture instructs, we must learn from the past.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Zep.3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][1] Woe to her (Jerusalem), who is filthy and polluted (and need the Christ washing)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Woe to the oppressing city! (and then to the Gentiles)[/SIZE]
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[2
] [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]She did not obey the voice[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]She did not accept correction[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]She did not trust in the LORD (the Father)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]She did not draw close to her God (Jesus)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][3] Her princes (Priests) within her,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]are roaring lions, (against the Prophets, the Apostles and the Christians)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Her judges are evening wolves[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]They gnaw not the bones till the morrow.[/SIZE]
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[4
] [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]Her Prophets (Bible Teachers),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]are >> light (lukewarm) and treacherous (crooked) persons.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Her Priests have polluted the Temple (and now the Christian who is supposed to be the Temple)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]They have done violence to the (Moses) law[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt], (and now to the Apostles Doctrine)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]At this stage in our human History, all individuals in every country are under Christ.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]After learning faith in Christ, we are immediately baptized so that the good life, through the Spirit,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]starts >>[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]No one is exempted from baptism and the children of the good Father can sense this fact.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]GOD is held in utter regard, either as a good Father who is guiding us,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]or as a GREAT King, who takes vengeance on his enemies.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]***[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Be educated on baptism, for yourself and for the others whom you will help.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Calling on the name of the LORD is customary.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Time Magazine, Dec. 5, 1955: Record of a True Baptism in Rome 100 A.D[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]"The deacon raised his hand, and Publius Decius stepped through the baptistery door.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Standing waist-deep in the pool was Marcus Vasca the wood seller.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]He was smiling as Publius waded into the pool beside him.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]'Credis?' he asked. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Credo' responded Publius.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]'I believe that my salvation comes from Jesus the Christ, who was crucified under Pontius Pilate.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]With Him I died that with Him I may have Eternal Life.'[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Then he felt strong arms supporting him as he let himself fall backward into the pool,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and heard Marcus' voice in his ear,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]'I baptize you in the Name of the Lord Jesus'[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]as the cold water closed over (buried) him."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]***[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The above Baptism conforms to the Scriptures.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The baptizer called, [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]over[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] the BURIED candidate[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt], the 'name of the LORD Jesus, our Savior.'[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Calling on the name of the LORD can be found throughout the ’Israelite Scriptures.’[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]To call the LORD by his name, in orderto get his attention and a response,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]was always the sensible Israelite custom.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]If we want to join the Israelite GOD and his children then we must obey his simple teachings.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The candidate must also >> [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]personally call on Jesus[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt], for forgiveness and a good life,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]while buried under the water.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Calling on Jesus, by his Christians, as recorded in the Writings of our N. T. Scriptures.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Acts.2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][21] It shall come to pass,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]that any person who shall[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt] >> (literally) [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]call on the name of the LORD[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] (Yahweh/Jesus in baptism),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]shall be saved (as promised by GOD)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Acts.9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][14] Here Paul has authority from the Chief Priests to bind[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]all people who >> (literally) call on your name.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Rom.10[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][11]..:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Whoever believes on Christ shall not be disappointed.
[12
] There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]for the same LORD (Jesus, the merciful God of Israel),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]who is over every single person, in every single nation,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]is >> rich to (enriches; 2 Cor.9:11; 1 Cor.1:5 below.) everyone who >> calls upon him.
[13
] because whoever, (in any large numbers),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]shall >> call upon the (literal) name of the LORD (Yahweh/ Jesus, starting in baptism like Peter said),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]shall be saved (per Joel)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]1 Cor.1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][2] To the church of GOD who is at Corinth,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]to those who are separated in Christ Jesus, [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]called (by GOD) to be saints (universally good),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]with all of the brothers who in every place, >> call upon the name of Jesus Christ,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]our common (enriching), LORD[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Baptized in (into/ calling on) Jesus, the incarnated LORD, the God of Israel.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]The opinion of any believer who has not correctly baptized,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]is equivalent to the opinion of an un-baptized person, of any other religion.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]The people of the 2nd covenant are the willing people of Christ, who go to Christ, our maker[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Christ is the previous God of the unwilling (Israelites)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Acts.2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][38] Peter (who is Jesus’ and GOD’s anointed Servant) said to the other Israelites[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Every one of you, (without exception),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]repent (turn) and be[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>> baptized[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] in (into/ calling on) the name of[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Jesus Christ (the Savior of Israel) for the remission of your sins[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and then you shall receive (from Jesus) the (excellent) Gift of the Spirit.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Jesus gives the Spirit to those who will obey him (in faith and good deeds)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Acts.8[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][12] When they believed Philip who was preaching the things concerning[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]the (invisible) Kingdom of GOD[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and concerning the name (the FULL identity) of Jesus Christ, (the Mighty God of Israel)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]both men and women were,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>> baptiz[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]ed (calling on the Mighty God)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Acts.9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][18] and immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and he received sight forthwith and he arose and he was >> baptized (calling on Jesus)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Acts.10[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][48] Peter commanded the Gentiles to be[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>> baptized [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]in (into/ calling on)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]the name of the LORD (Jesus, the God of Israel)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Acts.16[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][15] When she and her household were >> baptiz[/SIZE]ed (in the name of Jesus),
[SIZE=10pt]she besought us (Apostles) saying..[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt][33] He took the Apostles the same hour of the night and washed their stripes[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and he was >> baptized (in the name of Jesus) and all his family, no hesitation.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Hereunder is a lesson to the >> willing children of GOD that we can baptize >> more than once.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Acts.19[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt][[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]1[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]]..[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]inding certain disciples there [[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]2[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]] Paul asked them[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]have you gotten the Holy Ghost (from Jesus) since you believed?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]They said to him:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]We have not so much as heard whether there is any Holy Ghost.
[
[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]3[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]] Paul asked them:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]To (into) what (name) then were you baptized?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]They said: To (into) John’s baptism.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][5] When they (the willing) heard this, they were[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>> baptized in (into/ calling on) the name[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]of the LORD[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] Jesus, (like is customary for Israelites; e.g. in the Psalms)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Rom.6[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][3] Don’t you (baptized converts) know, that so many of us (Christians)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]as were >> baptized into Jesus Christ were baptiz[/SIZE]ed into his death?

[SIZE=10pt]1Cor.12[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][13] by ONE Spirit (of GOD) we are all >> baptiz[/SIZE]ed into ONE Brotherhood,
[SIZE=10pt]…and we all have been made to drink (like water) into ONE Spirit (of GOD)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Gal.3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][27] As many of you as have been >> baptiz[/SIZE]ed into Christ have put on Christ (the beloved)
[SIZE=10pt]***[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Catholic Confessions of >>Changing the Word of GOD and[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>>Deceiving all nations, for about 1700 years.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]This has resulted in Spiritual death and unhappiness for numberless,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]international people, of ALL races.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263[/SIZE]:
[SIZE=10pt]"The baptismal formula [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]was changed[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] from the name of Jesus Christ[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]***[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The Jerusalem Bible, a scholarly Catholic work, states: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]"It may be that this formula, (Triune Matthew 28:19)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]so far as the fullness of its expression is concerned,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]is a reflection of the (Man-made) liturgical usage established later[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]in the primitive (Catholic) community[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]It will be remembered that Acts speaks of baptizing "in the name of Jesus,"..."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]***[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The Catholic University of America in Washington, D. C. 1923,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]New Testament Studies Number 5: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The Lord's Command To Baptize An Historical Critical Investigation[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]By Bernard Henry Cuneo page 27.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]"The passages in Acts and the Letters of St. Paul.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]These passages seem to point to the earliest form as baptism in the name of the Lord."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Also we find. "Is it possible to reconcile these facts with the belief[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]that Christ commanded his disciples to baptize in the trine form?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Had Christ given such a command, it is urged, the Apostolic Church would have followed him,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and we should have some trace of this obedience in the New Testament.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]No such trace can be found.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The only explanation of this silence, according to the anti-traditional view,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]is this the short Christological (Jesus Name) formula was (the) original,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]the longer trine formula was a later development[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]***[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The Catholic University of America in Washington, D. C. 1923,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]New Testament Studies Number 5: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The Lord's Command To Baptize An Historical Critical Investigation.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]By Bernard Henry Cuneo page 27.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]"The passages in Acts and the Letters of St. Paul.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]These passages seem to point to the earliest form as baptism in the name of the Lord."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Also we find. "Is it possible to reconcile these facts with the belief[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]that Christ commanded his disciples to baptize in the trine form?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Had Christ given such a command, it is urged,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]the Apostolic Church would have followed him,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and we should have some trace of this obedience in the New Testament.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]No such trace can be found.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The only explanation of this silence, according to the anti-traditional view,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]is this the short Christological (Jesus Name) formula was (the) original,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]the longer trine formula was a later development[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]."[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Eph. 4[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][5] ONE LORD (Jesus),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]ONE Faith, (in BOTH, the good Son and the good Father)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>> ONE (acceptable)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]baptism, (calling on Jesus from under the water that is easily proven)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]More research is available.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Grace is great, various and ongoing…[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Everyone gets very happy and loves it.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Jesus still, accepts us if we >> personally baptize ourselves[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]calling on him for forgiveness and help,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]as is the Israelite custom.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Pss.34[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][8] O >> taste (Baptism) and see that the LORD (Jesus) is good.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Happy is the man who trusts in him (Jesus.)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]We were ALL pleasantly surprised. :)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Rediscover True Christianity without paying any money.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Isa.52[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][3] For thus saith the LORD (the Father)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]You (Christians) have sold yourselves for naught[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and you shall be redeemed[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]>> without money<< (No Tithes and Offering but enormous thanks to GOD and Christ.)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]1 Pet.1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][18] Forasmuch as you (correctly baptized Apostles and converts) know,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]like silver and gold, (TITHES and OFFERINGS),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]from your vain conversation that you received by tradition from your fathers;
[19
] But with the precious blood of Christ, (the Mighty God of former Israel),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]like the blood of a (PERFECTLY good) lamb without blemish and without spot.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]After baptism[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] read and follow the Teachings of the Apostles,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]always asking Jesus and GOD, Our Father to enable you to obey all things…[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]1Pet.2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][2] Like newly born babies (NEWLY BAPTIZED),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]desire the sincere milk of the Word (of GOD),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]so that you may grow by it (into the New HAPPY Man, with help from the Savior).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][3] If it is the case, that you have tasted (after Baptism calling on him),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]that the LORD (Jesus = the incarnated God of Israel), is gracious.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Manifold Grace, from GOD and Christ but through Christ, is truly unspeakable.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Enjoy the good, highly energized, blessed X2, joyful life starting NOW,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]after CORRECT non-heretical, Jesus and GOD, restored baptism.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=10pt]Prov.15[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][10] [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]Correction[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] is abominable to a person[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]who has forsaken the Way (of Truth, >> from the Apostles).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]He who hates reproof shall (spiritually) die (and be heavy laden and unhappy)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]The best to everyone…[/SIZE]
 

Mungo

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wordsponge,

Will you stop telling lies about the Catholic Church.

You have already posted the above lies elsewhere and I replied as follows:

Not a single one of your "Catholic Confessions" are from authoritative Catholic sources.

And moreover you are a blatant liar.

I have a copy of the Jerusalem Bible and the footnote to Matthew 28:19 states "This formula is perhaps a reflection of the liturgical usage of the writer's own time."
Nothing like what you claim it to be.

As to your quote from the Catholic Encyclopaedia it makes no such admission.

Here is a link to the article about Baptism in the 1913 version - http://oce.catholic....p?title=Baptism

And a link to the article about Baptism in the current version.- http://www.newadvent...then/02258b.htm

They both contain the following quotes:

“The requisite and sole valid form of baptism is: "I baptize thee" or "This person is baptized" in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost." This was the form given by Christ to His Disciples in the twenty-eighth chapter of St. Matthew's Gospel, as far, at least, as there is question of the invocation of the separate Persons of the Trinity and the expression of the nature of the action performed.” (my emboldening)

“In addition to the necessary word "baptize", or its equivalent, it is also obligatory to mention the separate Persons of the Holy Trinity. This is the command of Christ to His Disciples, and as the sacrament has its efficacy from Him Who instituted it, we can not omit anything that He has prescribed. Nothing is more certain than that this has been the general understanding and practice of the Church.” (my emboldening)

The first century document “The Didache” states this concerning baptism:
“And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. But if you have no living [running] water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit.” (chap 7 - my emboldening)

Despite this you carry on telling the same lies.

Remember Ex 20:16 - "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour."
 

Mr.Bride

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Uh...Either be baptized in the name of The Lord Jesus Christ or you were baptized incorrectly. Who is the Father? Who is the Son? Who is the Holy Spirit? Is this not Jesus? Blessings
 

wordsponge

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Mr.Bride said:
Uh...Either be baptized in the name of The Lord Jesus Christ or you were baptized incorrectly. Who is the Father? Who is the Son? Who is the Holy Spirit? Is this not Jesus? Blessings
Check the Acts and the Epistles..

Good luck.
We are not to be biased,,