Is Jesus the "third temple"?

[Earburner]

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Ever since 1879 and "the electric light bulb" We HAVE BEEN IN that time of all power, signs and wonders. Just our "smart phones" alone reveal who it is that is behind it, "the prince of the power of the "air". Eph. 2:2.
Maybe you can think of a number of other "sciences" that have been taking place, of which generations of past millenia have never even dreamed of.
Technology, medical and the military would be a good start.

 

[Earburner]

Right. I have heard those deceived Churches preach that there is no singular Antichrist figure to come, that Paul was speaking of the "many antichrists" idea only. I feel sorry for those congregations under that kind of false teaching.

Truly, in this day and time, because Lord Jesus and His Apostles especially warned us about the deceptions at the end of this world, IF... the believer does not first have a working understanding in God's written Word, then they will have little chance at discovering whether their preachers are actually teaching God's Word or not.

The above is just church-ianity speaking it's "religious" thoughts out loud.
In Jesus prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD., there was nothing "religious" about that real event.

 

[BlessedPeace]

John 2:19 ESV
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

Wouldn't that be something? All these centuries later we are looking for a third temple erection. And all the while Jesus was it.

I like it.

 

[Earburner]

We are not the new Earth. Jesus isn't the new Heaven or whatever new age teaching you have about him.

Call it what you like.
Through His resurrection, Jesus has already inherited immortality with eternal life, having the ability to be physical or Spirit at will.

For the past 2023 years, Jesus has had no need of anything from this planet, to sustain Him (does Jesus breathe air in Heaven?).
But you think that you will, after being made after His likeness of immortality??

Since God the Father dwells within each of our earthen bodies NOW, through Jesus, why would He, or us for that matter, who are "New creatures", need a new planet, or this planet remodeled, where there will be no more death?

 

[Earburner]

Wouldn't that be something? All these centuries later we are looking for a third temple erection. And all the while Jesus was it.

I like it.

Oops! Another one is standing in the Light!!
Amen!!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Oops! Another one is standing in the Light!!
Amen!!

And, Amen again.

 

[ewq1938]

Ever since 1879 and "the electric light bulb" We HAVE BEEN IN that time of all power, signs and wonders.

Lying wonders not just wonders. In the Greek this is miracles that deceive. That isn't electricity and light bulbs. It's miracles, the same type seen performed in Rev 13 to deceive people. It's related to how the AC proves he is "God", by these miracles. All your theology does is excuse away the prophecies of the AC so no one is watching for him. This is just one of many false doctrines designed to cause the Apostasy and is equally as dangerous as Pretrib and other false doctrines.

 

[ewq1938]

Call it what you like.
Through His resurrection, Jesus has already inherited immortality with eternal life, having the ability to be physical or Spirit at will.

For the past 2023 years, Jesus has had no need of anything from this planet, to sustain Him (does Jesus breathe air in Heaven?).
But you think that you will, after being made after His likeness of immortality??

Since God the Father dwells within each of our earthen bodies NOW, through Jesus, why would He, or us for that matter, who are "New creatures", need a new planet, or this planet remodeled, where there will be no more death?

So you deny a literal New Earth (and new Heaven). False doctrines always deny scriptural truths. Just curious what sect teaches these things. Anyone know?

 

[Earburner]

No, that is false. This doctrine only tries to erase the man of sin so people aren't watching for him. He is a false christ so not watching for him is dangerous.

I don't know about you or others, but I jumped that ship long ago, and now instead I am looking for Jesus' sudden appearance from heaven, in flaming fire.....

 

[ewq1938]

I don't know about you or others, but I jumped that ship long ago, and now instead I am looking for Jesus' sudden appearance from heaven, in flaming fire.....

Almost identical to Pretrib who also is waiting for Christ to suddenly arrive. Both doctrines have no concern whatsoever about a false christ coming first. Amill thinks he already came, or interprets him into something symbolic and Pretrib simply thinks they will be in heaven when he appears. Dangerous doctrines to not teach Christians to be watching for him. But the Apostasy must happen, sad as it is to imagine.

 

[Earburner]

So you deny a literal New Earth (and new Heaven). False doctrines always deny scriptural truths. Just curious what sect teaches these things. Anyone know?

Jesus is our New heaven, and we are God's New earth, WHEREIN dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

Jesus Himself was and STILL IS his Father's HOUSE, and we ourselves ARE the many mansions, that Jesus is making a placement for, who will come again, and receive us unto himself; so that WHERE HE IS, THERE WE MAY BE ALSO.

 

[BlessedPeace]

It just came to me while reading the latest.

All this back and forth, bickering, even name calling and accusations against sisters and brothers faith, practice, intellect, and on and on.

Going at each other over what is in God's word? Taking issue, sometimes being rude about it, to defend how right each one is?

Have we ever considered if the time comes in our lifetimes, we who have a direct communication with the Holy Spirit will know it is the real thing?
And if that happens, will each member in this thread be thinking to themselves, HA! I told 'em so! I was right!

Come on!

 

[Earburner]

Almost identical to Pretrib who also is waiting for Christ to suddenly arrive. Both doctrines have no concern whatsoever about a false christ coming first. Amill thinks he already came, or interprets him into something symbolic and Pretrib simply thinks they will be in heaven when he appears. Dangerous doctrines to not teach Christians to be watching for him. But the Apostasy must happen, sad as it is to imagine.

The "Reformed Amil" view understands the three manifestations of Jesus.
1. He came in the likeness of mortal flesh.
2. Since Pentecost, He is still coming to the world by His Spirit and through His "born again" ambassadors, offering Salvation.
3. He will come lastly from Heaven, in His Immortality, with vengeance, in flaming fire.

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus is our New heaven, and we are God's New earth

Nope. That is new age nonsense from some sect or cult. Heaven and Earth are places and the new versions of them are places also.

 

[ewq1938]

The "Reformed Amil" view understands the three manifestations of Jesus.
1. He came in the likeness of mortal flesh.
2. Since Pentecost, He is still coming to the world by His Spirit and through His "born again" ambassadors, offering Salvation.
3. He will come lastly from Heaven, in His Immortality, with vengeance, in flaming fire.

And like Pretrib you think he can come suddenly which is false and unscriptural.

 

[Davy]

Wouldn't that be something? All these centuries later we are looking for a third temple erection. And all the while Jesus was it.

I like it.

You truly are... being funny!

There will... be a LITERAL 3RD TEMPLE built by the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem for the coming Antichrist to sit in. It is ignorant to deny it simply because denying it means Biblical illiteracy in not knowing Bible prophecy about the end.

 

[Earburner]

Lying wonders not just wonders. In the Greek this is miracles that deceive. That isn't electricity and light bulbs. It's miracles, the same type seen performed in Rev 13 to deceive people. It's related to how the AC proves he is "God", by these miracles. All your theology does is excuse away the prophecies of the AC so no one is watching for him. This is just one of many false doctrines designed to cause the Apostasy and is equally as dangerous as Pretrib and other false doctrines.

You are not getting to the purpose of the "end product", through all of these scientific technological miracles and wonders within only the past 144 years.

The end product, of the end game, will be "the mark of the beast". Digital money, with a Digital ID.

John saw it, but he could only relate to it as to how he knew slaves were marked in the Roman Empire.

The number "six hundred threescore and six" has to do with GOLD, which to us is fiat money, for buying and selling.

There is "a man" that had to deal with that "number". It was King Solomon, who had "wisdom".
1 Kings 10:1-14
[14] Now the weight of gold that came [was given] to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.
(Edit: there is nothing spiritual or significant about that "number". It is nothing but a symbolic reference point, for us to learn that by taking a Digital ID., in any form, in order to "buy of sell", is giving one's self over to trust in the economic system of "the beast" for all your needs, and not God.)

Are you aware of what Universal Basic Income (UBI) is?
It's about free digital money that would be given out to all people, for a period of one year or less, through their respective governments, after the event of a WW3, or any other Apocalyptic event that would crash the global economy

 

[Earburner]

Nope. That is new age nonsense from some sect or cult. Heaven and Earth are places and the new versions of them are places also.

2 Peter 3
[10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
[11] Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
[12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

Where-IN is God's righteousness???
Is it going to dwell on a new planet, or is it already dwelling within the "earth-en vessels" of we who are Born again?
Luke 17
[21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

2 Cor. 4
[7] But we have this treasure IN earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

 

[Earburner]

You truly are... being funny!

There will... be a LITERAL 3RD TEMPLE built by the orthodox Jews in Jerusalem for the coming Antichrist to sit in. It is ignorant to deny it simply because denying it means Biblical illiteracy in not knowing Bible prophecy about the end.

Knowing prophecy about the end requires spiritual discernment by "the mind of Christ within us" which is comparing spiritual things with spiritual, and not strictly by "the wisdom of men" through "word crunching".
1 Cor. 2
[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but that which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

 

[ewq1938]

[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth [God's] righteousness.

Where-IN is God's righteousness???
Is it going to dwell on a new planet,

It says a new Earth. Man is made immortal on this old Earth and after the GWTJ the NHNE will come and those same immortal people will live on the new Earth. The new Earth is NEVER symbolic of saved/immortal people.