Ferris Bueller
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Why are you celebrating the birth of Jesus!?
God never ordained a Holy-day to recognize the birth of Christ.
The Catholics did.
You can't sin against something God never ordained.
Is Santa Claus a fraud?
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God never ordained a Holy-day to recognize the birth of Christ.
The Catholics did.
You can't sin against something God never ordained.
At the end of the day the question asks if Santa is a fraud or real...
So if you answered no then your a stupid idiot cos your literally saying that Santa is real...
Not my fault your too dumb to read the question properly
So if you answered no then your a stupid idiot cos your literally saying that Santa is real...
Not my fault your too dumb to read the question properly
Ferris Bueller
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Reread Matthew 18:6 and Mark 9:42 and you'll see that the millstone around the neck is regard to little ones who "believe in me". It has nothing to do with little ones who do not believe in Him.
Ferris Bueller
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I did read the question properly, and I answered it.
And you started this as a non-serious thread? Really?
I'm sorry that you're upset, but this was uncalled for. I responded to the thread and don't think I called you any names even though I disagree that Santa does harm to all Children.
GaryAnderson
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Ferris Bueller
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This is a good question Ferris B: Yes the RCC did develop this date of worship from (a) pagan historical derivative(s). It is a darn thing they created, as a compromise with the world!
I grew up with it as nearly every one in the West, at least. I did not seriously think about this event and others a lot until I got married at a relative young age. And especially since I now disliked the RCC...
When we had children a few years or so later we both agreed that we would minimize this celebration of Christ (and Easter for that matter) and with friends and family especially since I gave my life to Christ, and inwardly felt and thought a lot differently. We never cut off ties with anyone because of our view. We would go along with others and other family although we knew inside this was not truly a Christ day for worship with images etc. In fact, scripture does not emphasize any Christ Birthday celebration at all.
I consider those that celebrate this Christ day 'to the fullest,' are idol worshipping, if you do not have Christ and the spirit of truth to restrain your heart and mind. So for this reason my wife and I emphasized Biblical characters and settings for Christ (the manager, the star), and scripture reading, over any exotic tree and reefs and such, with all the other trimmings and alcohol etc. As long as we recognized the difference, as we live this day as we believe, being in this world. Yes we do have a tree, and we have it for my wife who wants it a a sign of giving and sharing with presents underneath. If it was up to me alone, and living alone, I would not have a single decoration of any kind.
One of my sister's is coming over this season, and she likes a tree, so its up for her and my wife, not me.
So once we had children we did gradually tell them about our views on the subject. They figured it all out for themselves more clearly later.
I just read that they have recently discovered a find that is extraordinary. They have recovered Santa's sleigh and now I understand how he gets around so fast. Oh and his elves wear flack jackets just in case he gets fanatics that don't like Christmas. A spokesman for Santa was not available for comment:
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So just don't tell them about Jesus so you can keep up the santa thing.....
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Feeling Cynical During the Holidays? What You’re Getting Wrong About Christmas
A recent survey in Time magazine found that most people see Christmas as a family holiday, rather than a religious one. They didn’t explain what that means, but I imagine it involves hot cocoa, fire places, presents, and secretly drinking in your room because it’s the only way you’ll survive another political diatribe by your crazy uncle.
If Christmas tells us anything about family, it’s that family is a dysfunctional gift. The only thing worse than having one, is not having one at all. And of course, that’s the dark side of Christmas. Many people don’t have family. Divorces leave ruin. Loved ones pass away. And I have to imagine that many people, myself included, won’t even be able to see some family members this year because of COVID-19.
If Christmas is about family, then Christmas is the best of times. But mostly, Christmas is the worst of times.
Feeling Cynical During the Holidays? What You’re Getting Wrong About Christmas
A recent survey in Time magazine found that most people see Christmas as a family holiday, rather than a religious one. They didn’t explain what that means, but I imagine it involves hot cocoa, fire places, presents, and secretly drinking in your room because it’s the only way you’ll survive another political diatribe by your crazy uncle.
If Christmas tells us anything about family, it’s that family is a dysfunctional gift. The only thing worse than having one, is not having one at all. And of course, that’s the dark side of Christmas. Many people don’t have family. Divorces leave ruin. Loved ones pass away. And I have to imagine that many people, myself included, won’t even be able to see some family members this year because of COVID-19.
If Christmas is about family, then Christmas is the best of times. But mostly, Christmas is the worst of times.
amigo de christo
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The evil is in believing in this all knowing and all seeing fable . GOD ALONE GETS ONLY THAT RECOGINITION .
It may seem harmless , but its deadly blasphemous . You better not pout , you better not cry i am telling you why....
HE knows when you ...............
HE KNOWS when you ........
HE KNOWS WHEN .......................
SO BE GOOD FOR GOODNESS SAKE . THAT IS EVIL AS HECK . I SHUN this fable to hades . GOD ALONE KNOWS
NOT santy clause . This is an abomniation and to say such and to tell kids such is far more an abomination that most folks think.
IT aint cute to let kids believe them is some all knowing presence called santa at the north pole WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING they do
SO BE GOOD , cause this santa is watching . WHAT A MOCKERY TO GOD . What an abomnation .
As for me , the only things i am gonna tell kids or anyone is , GOD IS WATCHING , AND FOLKS NEED JESUS .
amigo de christo
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amigo de christo
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THE WORLD does as the world does , but we dont DO as the World does . The WORLD celebrates halloween , DOES THIS MEAN
its okay for us to do so . Nor is it okay for christains to celebrate a false santa clause . FLEE IT and never look back my friend .
ScottA
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Trick or Treat? Wrong holiday.
No, I did not look at the link. I don't need to. I listened to you. And what is apparent, is that you are taking them serious, when you should not. You are giving a foothold to demons. Furthermore, you are blaming loving parents for sharing an imaginary tale with their children that is a parable of our gift-giving Father in heaven. Instead, you should have come completely out of that darkness. God loves children, He's got this.
Ferris Bueller
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That's the funny part about all this. I'm not keeping up the Santa thing, lol.
Santa is the very least of all this. I like all the things connected with family gatherings, snow, lights, special dinners, etc.
I tease in fun about Santa with my 27 year old son who still lives at home (he has Down's Syndrome. We both have the mind of a 10 year old, lol). But even he knows Santa's not doing all the fun stuff. It's just fun stuff!
So, that's where my thankfulness to God is...good memories of good times, good people, and good places during this time of year. Santa's just not part of it for me. My kids grew up knowing Santa was mom and dad (mom mostly, lol), so Santa's been a non-issue all of my adult life. The holiday traditions is what I love and thank God for.
ScottA
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Wow, surely that is pure evil--sounds like a fire and brimstone Preacher!
You all are making way too big a thing of this. It's not blasphemous, not evil...it is a parable of our Father in heaven, shared by loving parents who have no intention of steering their children away from God. On the contrary, they simply choose to warm their hearts for a few years before getting around to more serious matters, just as they would with the birds and the bees.
Jimminy Christmas!
Or is The Birds and the Bees also on the evil list?
amigo de christo
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This type of stuff dont work on me my friend . I love souls so i warn souls .
From a surprising source.....
Italian bishop goes grinchy, tells children 'Santa doesn't exist'
Dec 10, 2021
by Christopher White
A Santa Claus figure is illuminated in a Christmas lights show at Sandy Point State Park on Maryland's Chesapeake Bay Dec. 12, 2020.
(CNS/Bob Roller)
ROME — 'Tis the season for truth telling, according to an Italian bishop who is doubling down on his controversial remarks that "Santa Claus doesn't exist."
Bishop Antonio Staglianò of Nato, Sicily, went on to add that the traditional red suit donned by Santa Claus "was chosen by Coca Cola exclusively for advertising purposes."
The southern Italian newspaper Corriere del Mezzogiorno reported on Dec. 9 that young children were in attendance when Staglianò made his now controversial comments. Parents have taken to social media to vent their frustrations.
"Do not worry children, Santa Claus is coming again this year. Perhaps he comes with more effort, but he comes to visit you, in spite of the Bishop of Noto!" wrote one Twitter commentator.
Some social media commentators cynically noted that the bishop's remarks came "immediately after he told him the story of a woman who gave birth by the Holy Spirit."
On Dec. 10, both "Coca Cola" and "Babbo Natale" (Santa Claus or Father Christmas in Italian) were trending on social media in Italy.
(While Coca-Cola did not invent the legend of Santa Claus, they did commission a 1931 illustration of a bearded man wearing a red suit, holding a bottle of Coca-Cola soda, that has given rise to his common depictions over the last century.)
Despite the outrage, the bishop said he didn't mind coming off as a bit of a grinch, saying he was helping to "recover the true sense of the Christian tradition of Christmas."
Staglianò went on to say that during a holiday that is often dominated by a focus on consumerism and gift buying, he hopes children will come to have a sense of "solidarity'' with poorer children.
Children, said the bishop, "know that Santa Claus is daddy or uncle. So [there are] no broken dreams."
Christopher White
Christopher White is the Vatican correspondent for NCR. His email address is [email protected]. Follow him on Twitter: @CWWhiteNCR.
Italian bishop goes grinchy, tells children 'Santa doesn't exist'
Dec 10, 2021
by Christopher White
A Santa Claus figure is illuminated in a Christmas lights show at Sandy Point State Park on Maryland's Chesapeake Bay Dec. 12, 2020.
(CNS/Bob Roller)
ROME — 'Tis the season for truth telling, according to an Italian bishop who is doubling down on his controversial remarks that "Santa Claus doesn't exist."
Bishop Antonio Staglianò of Nato, Sicily, went on to add that the traditional red suit donned by Santa Claus "was chosen by Coca Cola exclusively for advertising purposes."
The southern Italian newspaper Corriere del Mezzogiorno reported on Dec. 9 that young children were in attendance when Staglianò made his now controversial comments. Parents have taken to social media to vent their frustrations.
"Do not worry children, Santa Claus is coming again this year. Perhaps he comes with more effort, but he comes to visit you, in spite of the Bishop of Noto!" wrote one Twitter commentator.
Some social media commentators cynically noted that the bishop's remarks came "immediately after he told him the story of a woman who gave birth by the Holy Spirit."
On Dec. 10, both "Coca Cola" and "Babbo Natale" (Santa Claus or Father Christmas in Italian) were trending on social media in Italy.
(While Coca-Cola did not invent the legend of Santa Claus, they did commission a 1931 illustration of a bearded man wearing a red suit, holding a bottle of Coca-Cola soda, that has given rise to his common depictions over the last century.)
Despite the outrage, the bishop said he didn't mind coming off as a bit of a grinch, saying he was helping to "recover the true sense of the Christian tradition of Christmas."
Staglianò went on to say that during a holiday that is often dominated by a focus on consumerism and gift buying, he hopes children will come to have a sense of "solidarity'' with poorer children.
Children, said the bishop, "know that Santa Claus is daddy or uncle. So [there are] no broken dreams."
Christopher White
Christopher White is the Vatican correspondent for NCR. His email address is [email protected]. Follow him on Twitter: @CWWhiteNCR.
and i suppose you know children like this ? i dont of of any your logic is way out
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