Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?

[pittsburghjoe]

The double slit experiment is indicating we are judging if something is part of this fallen reality or not. We became unique instead of as a whole. A physical person has pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego ..sin

The knowledge of judging evil allows humans to know something is physical. We didn't know/see what the difference was between a wave and particle before sin.

Scientists say decoherence is lost information to the environment. ..but the environment is this fallen reality. We are swimming in sin.

It goes deeper ..original sin caused disorder ..entropy. Unobserved waves are coherent and infinite. Decohered wave packets are finite. They caused disorder of the perfect order of coherence. SIN

This fallen condition causes Death, Decay, and Age.

Sin has something to do with physicality. Satan was allowed in the Garden because God needed something fallen to give us choice for Free Will. If God used a tree ..it means it was a physical tree ..and Satan is able to be around anything fallen apparently. The tree of knowledge would have looked normal to Adam because he couldn't judge between good and evil yet. The tree was physical in a garden that was not. God doesn't create evil so he used something from this fallen view.

Our eyes were open to Satan's perception because he was the first to cause disorder.

I think decoherence might be a present state ..the now. Physical objects can only be in the now ..not the future.

 

[101G]

The double slit experiment is indicating we are judging if something is part of this fallen reality or not. We became unique instead of as a whole. A physical person has pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego ..sin

The knowledge of judging evil allows humans to know something is physical. We didn't know/see what the difference was between a wave and particle before sin.

Scientists say decoherence is lost information to the environment. ..but the environment is this fallen reality. We are swimming in sin.

It goes deeper ..original sin caused disorder ..entropy. Unobserved waves are coherent and infinite. Decohered wave packets are finite. They caused disorder of the perfect order of coherence. SIN

This fallen condition causes Death, Decay, and Age.

Sin has something to do with physicality. Satan was allowed in the Garden because God needed something fallen to give us choice for Free Will. If God used a tree ..it means it was a physical tree ..and Satan is able to be around anything fallen apparently. The tree of knowledge would have looked normal to Adam because he couldn't judge between good and evil yet. The tree was physical in a garden that was not. God doesn't create evil so he used something from this fallen view.

Our eyes were open to Satan's perception because he was the first to cause disorder.

I think decoherence might be a present state ..the now. Physical objects can only be in the now ..not the future.

but is this not from the the observer view?. and the reality is still entact, but only a fallen state from our lack of understanding, in what we observe.

by the way a good topic.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[lforrest]

While I don't agree with the standard explaination this sounds like Gnosticism.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

but is this not from the the observer view?. and the reality is still entact, but only a fallen state from our lack of understanding, in what we observe.

by the way a good topic.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

It is the observer view ..it is what we learned from the Tree of Knowledge.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

While I don't agree with the standard explaination this sounds like Gnosticism.

I think they were allowed to have one good idea, it doesn't mean I have to be in their religion. For all we know they used it on purpose to discredit it.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We are made of waves right now

In Quantum Physics, Even Humans Act As Waves via WaterSong

But decoherent ones. Decoherence causes physicality. We were coherent waves before original sin.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

::sigh::
This is ammo to wake the sleeping. You can't have direct evidence of God. That ruins the test we are in. I'm saying we have something plausible to show there is a God.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If you want out of this hellhole, you have to be willing to give it all up. This place is made of and for sin. We are in Satan's perception of Death and Decay. This place is a test, you're not supposed to enjoy it. You have to give up everything that makes you physically unique. You will have an ID in Heaven, but the one you have right now is used for sin. That's what sin is, Greed, Lust, Ego, Pride, Vanity. IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU.

God wants us to become one with Him. That means becoming connected to a whole. Sin will not be possible. The alternative is for you to stick around here with a ruler that hates humans more than anything.

We are born into this fallen reality because our representation for humans picked to believe Satan over God. To disobey God's order. God didn't want us here, it ends in death. God didn't want robots so he had to allow the choice to go dark. God doesn't create evil so the fallen mess Satan started was the only thing God could use as the choice.

It doesn't do any good to complain about the situation we are in. Face it head on and realize there is a way out of it.

The double slit experiment screams that something isn't right. What more do you need as a sign? Wave-Particle Duality is pointing out that sin needs decoherence to happen.

We are made in God's image, we are not dumb. The tree is about knowing the difference between good and evil. It is allowing us to know when something is physical. We can't know that difference at creation because then we would be physical from the start. We would be able to sin.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Eating the physical apple made them physical themselves. The tree was fallen.

..welcome to this fallen reality.

Eating the apple made them to be sin ..decoherence.

Decoherence causes waves to become particles.

We are made of waves and particles today ..the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

We chose to become a single point on a perfect circle. I think the circle represents the Universal Wave in QM. The circle is harmonic and pure tones.

This fallen reality feels connected to that single point ..maybe like a square, pentagram, or phi.

 

[101G]

Eating the physical apple made them physical themselves. The tree was fallen.

where in the bible do it say they ate an apple...a physical created material of Matter?

no, the bible iis clear, what they ate was spiritual, scripture.. Hosea 10:13 "Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men."

this what distort our reality, lies, that has no foundations.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Objects made of coherent waves can be just as physical ..just without the ability to sin. They don't have decoherence.

An angel was able to take down a physical army.

 

[101G]

Objects made of coherent waves can be just as physical ..just without the ability to sin. They don't have decoherence.

An angel was able to take down a physical army.

how do you know that anything is real.... remember this is a created world.

I suggest you look at this ... "The Holographic Universe" it's an old video, but if you can understand the basic on MATTER.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Video Game analogy of Religion:
Are we physically unique humans in SIM Satan? Will we be virtual matter wave avatars in SIM Heaven?

SIM Satan can only exist because God's Kingdom was here first. Decoherence needs waves to collapse.

We are only able to sin in Satan's perception. We can claim objects and events as our own doing ..pride, greed, lust, ego, vanity.
In Heaven we will be virtual in a virtual environment. In a virtual environment, anything you own is owned by all. Virtual means we are all connected.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Shouldn't Satan originally having a claim on everyone tell you he is a bigger deal than you care to admit to? Jesus takes that away from him, but not for those that don't see the light. Unbelievers need to understand that this beast owns them.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

“No one is good but God alone” Mk 10:18 and it’s written, “there is no one who does good, not even one." Rom 3:12 ..via Steve Amato

Humans can't do good in this fallen condition. It doesn't mean we can't do charitable acts, it means this place is sin.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Does a place that allows death, decay, and disorder, sound like a place consciousness could handle for infinity?
We are in a place that has physical uniqueness ..a place that allows us to be about ourselves. Does an act entailing only you have a Biblical definition?
We are in this fallen reality because of original sin.
This place is literally a moral test.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If the knowledge of good and evil sends us into this fallen condition, will we remember this place in Heaven? Will this horrible place that Satan rules be forgotten?

Why would you bother sinning if all of this will be forgotten?

 

[Gregory]

The double slit experiment is indicating we are judging if something is part of this fallen reality or not. We became unique instead of as a whole. A physical person has pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego ..sin

The knowledge of judging evil allows humans to know something is physical. We didn't know/see what the difference was between a wave and particle before sin.

Scientists say decoherence is lost information to the environment. ..but the environment is this fallen reality. We are swimming in sin.

It goes deeper ..original sin caused disorder ..entropy. Unobserved waves are coherent and infinite. Decohered wave packets are finite. They caused disorder of the perfect order of coherence. SIN

This fallen condition causes Death, Decay, and Age.

Sin has something to do with physicality. Satan was allowed in the Garden because God needed something fallen to give us choice for Free Will. If God used a tree ..it means it was a physical tree ..and Satan is able to be around anything fallen apparently. The tree of knowledge would have looked normal to Adam because he couldn't judge between good and evil yet. The tree was physical in a garden that was not. God doesn't create evil so he used something from this fallen view.

Our eyes were open to Satan's perception because he was the first to cause disorder.

I think decoherence might be a present state ..the now. Physical objects can only be in the now ..not the future.

Is it true that a particle can go through both slits? If so, tell me how?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If this place is about good and evil ..that means God is in the good ..that means God is future possibilities of quantum waves. That leaves physical particles of the present state to be evil. There won't be a balance when this is over. God has limited His own knowledge to allow this place to exist. God doesn't like having a front row seat to sin. Bad things happen here because this place is fallen. God works through the believers, but that leaves plenty of room for this fallen place to be overwhelming. Unbelievers say they prayed for a sign from God, but don't realize the situation we are in.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The disorder satan started in God's Kingdom started independence from God ..to be about himself ..to sin. It was disorder in God's Coherent Kingdom which started decoherence, locality, uniqueness, and pride.

We are being tested to see if we are willing to rejoin God.