IS THE NEW TESTAMENT THE SAME AS THE NEW COVENANT?

[Doug]

Can it be said that the new testament is just another way to say the new covenant?

Is this not just another error in translation?

In regard to God, a covenant is a stated obligation from God to perform a promise; this can be seen in God's promise not to flood the earth again in Genesis 9:9-11.

The new covenant is made only with the houses of Israel. The new covenant is yet future. The new covenant will bring Israel into the promised land, forgive their iniquity, and enable Israel to walk in the law (Jeremiah 31:31-34 Ezekiel 36:24-28 Deuteronomy 30:5-8).

A covenant is an agreement between two parties, as pertaining to men, as seen in Genesis 21:32.

Israel and God made a covenant, in which Israel would keep all the words of the law, as seen in Exodus 19:5-8.

The blood of the covenant in Exodus 24:8 was the provision to reconcile the transgressions Israel committed in breaking the law under the first covenant (Hebrews 9:7). The blood of the covenant is the sacrificial blood of animals of the first testament.

Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Hebrews 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

A testament is not the same as a covenant, because a testament sets forth the stated will of the testator.

A testament is only carried out upon the death of the testator.

Hebrews 9:18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

Is this verse wrong? Shouldn't it say, "Whereupon neither the first COVENANT was dedicated without blood."

I say no, this verse should indeed say the "first testament", and below is why.

Hebrews 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

Hebrews 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

The translators would correctly use the word testament, rather than covenant, in these verses. All the sacrificial blood of animals under the first testament was a shadow of the shed blood of Christ.

Christ shed his blood for the new testament as seen in Matthew 26:28.

The first testament was the provision of animal death and blood for remission of sins, for reconciliation; the new testament was the death and blood of Christ himself. The first testament, as the first covenant, was replaced with the better new testament (Hebrews 7:22 Hebrews 8:6).

Hebrews 9:21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

The law given within the covenant, demanded the shedding of blood for remission.

Hebrews 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

The earthly patterns were purified by the blood of calves and goats under the first testament, but the heavenly things, by the blood of Christ under the new.

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

In conclusion, this verse, as others, is correctly translated testament, and not covenant. Christ, by his death and shed blood for the new testament, redeemed the transgressions under the first testament sacrificial offerings.

The first testament was the will of God, that the death and shed blood of animals would be accepted by reflecting the death and shed blood of Christ. The death and shed blood of Christ for the new testament would be the propitiation, the appeasement, that would make reconciliation and provide forgiveness. The death of Christ, and his shed blood, put away sin by the sacrifice of himself (Hebrews 9:26 Hebrews 10:12), and took away the first testament (Hebrews 10:9).

In the new covenant, God will no longer remember the sin and iniquities of Israel, because they have been taken away by the sacrifice of Christ (Hebrews 10:17-18).

 

[Jay Ross]

The new covenant is made only with the houses of Israel. The new covenant is yet future. The new covenant will bring Israel into the promised land, forgive their iniquity, and enable Israel to walk in the law (Jeremiah 31:31-34 Ezekiel 36:24-28 Deuteronomy 30:5-8).

Doug, you are right that the "like new again" covenant that God said that he will make with the nation of Israel, (Jeremiah 31:31-34),requires Israel to commit to the original Kingdom of Priests, a Holy nation and God's Possession Among the Nation Covenant, but tweeted a little in that God's Statutes will be written on their individual hearts and not on stone as was the previous case at Mt Sinai. The important thing to note that the covenant requires Israel to be scattered among the nations for them to be complying with this covenant and not cooped up in the Land of Canaan, which was only a small part of all the land described in Genesis 15:17-21. You are also right that God will be renewing this covenant with the Nation of Israel in our near future, when, as Paul tells us in Romans 11:25-26, the 2,300 year prophecy of the Gentiles trampling the Sanctuary of Goad and his earthly Hosts, has run its full course in time, when the nations are Gathered at Armageddon to be judged and imprisoned in the "Pit" along with the Heavenly Host who have been judged in Heaven at the same time.

The passage in Ezekiel 36:24-28 tells us that God will gather the nation of Israel, cleanse them from all of their filthiness and all of their idols, so that they can be put you in your own "fertile soil," in which to draw sustenance from God as they grow into the People God intended them to be, such that they will be living in the "earth" that God promised to show to their fathers and to their descendants. God promised that He would show all of Israel this earth which they could inhabit and live out their lives.

Deuteronomy 30:5-8 also conveys the same message for Israel in that after all of the curses and the visitation of the iniquities of the fathers upon the father's children and the children's children has run its course and if the descendant of Abraham return to the Lord and obey His voice, then the Lord will remove your captivity and have compassion on them and gather them from all of the places that He had scattered them to and will bring them to the "Earth" which He had promised to their fathers as a possession and the returning Israelites to God will also them possess the Earth and live.

The issue we have is that many believe that Christ instigated a brand new covenant on the cross, whereas, as per Daniel 9:24, Christ's actions during His first Advent, brought about a change to the remission process required for the Salvation Covenant that has been the basis for redemption since the time of Adam. The Salvation Covenant is applicable to both Israelites and Gentiles, and since the end of the First Advent, the means of obtaining that remission for our sins.

It is my view that the people who may push the New Covenant Theology miss the understanding that God desires the Salvation of all people since the time of Adam up and until the end of the Age of the Ages, around 1,050 years into our future under the terms of the Salvation Covenant which was modified by the First Advent of Christ.

Shalom

 

[Timtofly]

The new Covenant was with Christ for Christ. It was not for any single one but for all.

You have to be Christ for the NT to make any sense. Paul said, "we are now the body of Christ."

The NT is not limited to some, nor open for all, BECAUSE, it is free to all, but some will not accept.

PS. The end is now. Soon the covenant will be withdrawn. 2 seals have begun, 2 more left. The last 1000 years belong to God, not Satan, nor humanity. No covenants of faith. Only God Himself.

 

[DPMartin]

Can it be said that the new testament is just another way to say the new covenant?

Is this not just another error in translation?

In regard to God, a covenant is a stated obligation from God to perform a promise; this can be seen in God's promise not to flood the earth again in Genesis 9:9-11.

The new covenant is made only with the houses of Israel. The new covenant is yet future. The new covenant will bring Israel into the promised land, forgive their iniquity, and enable Israel to walk in the law (Jeremiah 31:31-34 Ezekiel 36:24-28 Deuteronomy 30:5-8).

A covenant is an agreement between two parties, as pertaining to men, as seen in Genesis 21:32.

Israel and God made a covenant, in which Israel would keep all the words of the law, as seen in Exodus 19:5-8.

The blood of the covenant in Exodus 24:8 was the provision to reconcile the transgressions Israel committed in breaking the law under the first covenant (Hebrews 9:7). The blood of the covenant is the sacrificial blood of animals of the first testament.

Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Hebrews 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

A testament is not the same as a covenant, because a testament sets forth the stated will of the testator.

A testament is only carried out upon the death of the testator.

Hebrews 9:18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

Is this verse wrong? Shouldn't it say, "Whereupon neither the first COVENANT was dedicated without blood."

I say no, this verse should indeed say the "first testament", and below is why.

Hebrews 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

Hebrews 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

The translators would correctly use the word testament, rather than covenant, in these verses. All the sacrificial blood of animals under the first testament was a shadow of the shed blood of Christ.

Christ shed his blood for the new testament as seen in Matthew 26:28.

The first testament was the provision of animal death and blood for remission of sins, for reconciliation; the new testament was the death and blood of Christ himself. The first testament, as the first covenant, was replaced with the better new testament (Hebrews 7:22 Hebrews 8:6).

Hebrews 9:21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

The law given within the covenant, demanded the shedding of blood for remission.

Hebrews 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

The earthly patterns were purified by the blood of calves and goats under the first testament, but the heavenly things, by the blood of Christ under the new.

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

In conclusion, this verse, as others, is correctly translated testament, and not covenant. Christ, by his death and shed blood for the new testament, redeemed the transgressions under the first testament sacrificial offerings.

The first testament was the will of God, that the death and shed blood of animals would be accepted by reflecting the death and shed blood of Christ. The death and shed blood of Christ for the new testament would be the propitiation, the appeasement, that would make reconciliation and provide forgiveness. The death of Christ, and his shed blood, put away sin by the sacrifice of himself (Hebrews 9:26 Hebrews 10:12), and took away the first testament (Hebrews 10:9).

In the new covenant, God will no longer remember the sin and iniquities of Israel, because they have been taken away by the sacrifice of Christ (Hebrews 10:17-18).

a testament is a testimony you know like on the stand in a court. witnesses testify of what they witnessed and experienced first hand, in this case with and of their God. covenant is an agreement between two or more living entities that are able to understand the agreement. in the bible's case its between God and those He made a covenant with. such as Adam Noah Abraham Israelites by the hand of Moses King David. in which in the case of Jesus Christ He fulfilled the old covenants to God His Father's satisfaction and He is now the new. through Jesus Christ men can come into agreement with their Maker in Heaven and be at God's Peace.