Is The Soul Immortal?

[Foreigner]

Now I'm no genius but I'm nether a fool.

LOL You got the first half right, bud02.

While the Mods may not give you our I.P. addresses, they should be able to confirm that we are two different people.

I live in Fargo, ND. I have never posted on this board from anywhere but Fargo, ND and it's sister city across the river, Moorhead, MN.

I think you owe someone an apology.

 

[Templar81]

He owes us both apologies.

I don't think accusations like that are very Christian at all.

Bud
My advice to you is to ask God for forgiveness for this transgression and that he might grant you the wisdom to not indulge in such foolish fancies.

Also, even if we were the same person it would be no business of yours.

Kyrie Elaison
Christe Elaison

 

[bud02]

You can understand my concerns such things happen.
I have seen it happen to often, it always raises an, "I wonder" when you get a pair of mocking birds following each other threw out all the threads.
This is not you two.

But just the fact that both users, you two became members on the same day have a synonym as user names makes me go hmmmmm?

 

[Templar81]

If I was going to do that trick I wouldn't sign up twice on the same day and beisdes which since when were Templar and Foreigner synonymous with one another. Havn't you ever heard of the Knight's Templar.

 

[logabe]

Logabe, I have read and reread your post hoping there would be some sense in there. Sadly...

You have still shown nothing to negate these scriptures:


And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him,

neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.

" -- Matt. 12:32




Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matt 7:21

Foreigner...I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity
to explain my viewpoint on this subject...and I really mean
that. So many Christians are bound up in this one subject
that it boggles my mind when I show Christians what "world"
really means and they refuse to believe it. They are set on
believing that God can't forgive for ETERNITY when He
consistently teaches us to forgive. Here's some of my
references God used to deliver me from that pre-conceived
thought process.

Ellicott's Commentary on the Whole Bible

Matt. 25:46: Everlasting punishment--life eternal. The two
adjectives represent the same Greek word (aionion) aionios --
it must be admitted (1) that the Greek word which is rendered
"eternal" does not, in itself, involve endlessness, but rather,
duration, whether through an age or succession of ages, and
that it is therefore applied in the N.T. to periods of time that
have had both a beginning and an ending (Rom. 16:25),
where the Greek is "from aeonian times;" our version giving
"since the world began." (Comp. 2 Tim. 1:9; Tit. 1:3)--strictly
speaking, therefore, the word, as such, apart from its
association with any qualifying substantive, implies a vast
undefined duration, rather than one in the full sense of the
word "infinite."

Dr. F.W. Farrar, The Eternal Hope, p. 198

That the adjective is applied to some things which are "endless"
does not, of course, for one moment prove that the word itself
meant "endless," and to introduce this rendering into many
passages would be utterly impossible and absurd.

Dr. F.W. Farrar, Mercy and Judgment, p. 378

Since aion meant "age," aionios means, properly, "belonging to
an age," or "age-long," and anyone who asserts that it must
mean "endless" defends a position which even Augustine
practically abandoned twelve centuries ago. Even if aion always
meant "eternity," which is not the case in classic or Hellenistic
Greek-- aionios could still mean only "belonging to eternity" and
not "lasting through it."

Campbell Morgan, God's Methods With
Men, pp. 185-186

Let me say to Bible students that we must be very careful how
we use the word "eternity." We have fallen into great error in our
constant usage of that word. There is no word in the whole Book
of God corresponding with our "eternal," which as commonly
used among us, means absolutely without end.

Jeremy Taylor, author of Systematic Hellology,
which advocates the common belief in eternal
torment, later writes a modified viewin Jeremy
Taylor's Works, Vol. III, p. 43.

Though the fire is everlasting, not all that enters it is everlasting . . . .
"The word everlasting signifies only to the end of its period.

Charles H. Welch, editor of The Berean Expositor,
wrote in an Alphabetical Analysis, Vol. I

(Page 52) What we have to learn is that the Bible does not speak
of eternity. It is not written to tell us of eternity. Such a consideration
is entirely outside the scope of revelation.

(Page 279) Eternity is not a Biblical theme.

Dr. R.F. Weymouth, The New Testament in Modern
Speech, p. 657

Eternal: Greek: "aeonion," i.e., "of the ages." Etymologically this
adjective, like others similarly formed, does not signify "during,"
but "belonging to" the aeons or ages.

Foreigner...that world that you're talking about is actually
aion and it does not mean forever.

Logabe

 

[Foreigner]

Sorry Logabe, just because you can find several people who believe in "universal reconciliation" that does not make it fact.
There are milions of people on earth who can made an exceptional arugment that Jesus never walked the earth...


But the simple fact is that nothing you have said and nothing you quoted these people as saying explains or negates these scriptures:


And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come." -- Matt. 12:32



Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matt 7:21


It really is as simple as that.