Israel and Satan
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Truthnightmare
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Romans 2
For there is no respect of persons with God.
No! There is not a big difference.
Emotion seems to be your speech
Nonsense ! I have heard that rubbish before. playing the childish fearing one small Sin if found will sent them to Hell. That's a working of the Devil on their behalf.
Regarding the Jews ? what Jews ! the ones who came to Christ ? or the ones who reject Jesus was the Christ, if anyone rejects Jesus is the Christ they are Lost ! one has to be found to be Saved in fact. other than that i could not give a rats who they claim to be in fact.
Letting himself to be murdered ? hang on ! i would not call it that, it was he that was doing the will of this Father as that's all that he did in fact, it was the Sin in Man that attacked Jesus in fact, for they knew not what they do ? why is that well they had not Grace in fact !
Bust some had Holy Moses and it was they who had faith because they abide in Moses in fact and the others who did not abide in Moses were lead astray in fact !
Now we know who they were who tried to undermine Moses don't we ? for they were not worthy of God in fact !
Truthnightmare
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Where is this written? Moses and Elijah died before Christ was born, I don’t believe they were being tortured.
Keiw
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Until they do Matt 23:39-they are cut off of being Gods chosen. Spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen-those serve the Abrahamic God= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah)and accept Jesus as the one sent forth from God=The Messiah, Gods appointed king.= 1% on earth tops. The rest God views as wicked.
Truthnightmare
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I don’t believe they were ever Gods chosen. The promise was given to Israel, when it was given there was no such thing as a Jew. Not to mention you can’t put old wine in new wine skins. The people who call themselves Jews converted to Judaism, why didn’t they convert to Christianity? I agree, if people don’t accept Christ, it doesn’t matter what they call themselves.
Triumph1300
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Oh, I see.
You compare yourself, and put yourself on the same level as the apostle Paul.
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
You've got no problem with Hamas killing 1300 Jews, but you are angered when the Jews try to defend themselves from further attacks?
Nonsense? You think Satan had nothing to do with the murder of Jesus? You think he lost no credibility by having an innocent man murdered?
Where is this written? Where is it written that if you touch a hot stove, you'll get burned?
I don't think it's our job to judge people. There are exceptions - you can't allow murderers to roam free - but generally I think we should leave judging to the Lord, as the Bible instructs.
Truthnightmare
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I don’t want to see anyone killing anyone, but unfortunately mankind has always had wars.
You don’t seem to have a problem with Jews, killing 15,000 Palestinians, and taking the land they possessed for thousands of years.
Truthnightmare
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It is our job to judge, does not a murderer go before a judge for judgement? Do we not elect jurors to judge the case laid before them?
Is it not written..
John 7
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Have you read the book of Judges?
We are to leave the judgement of souls to God.
Truthnightmare
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Right here
Proverbs 6:27-29 "Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?
Truthnightmare
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I didn’t put myself on any level, scripture says,
Isaiah 64
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Where have I exhibited pride?
I believe in the Lord, which makes me a member of the body, but you seem to believe some members of the body are more important than others. What does the Bible say about this?
[14] For the body is not one member, but many.
[15] If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[16] And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[17] If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
[18] But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
[19] And if they were all one member, where were the body?
[20] But now are they many members, yet but one body.
[21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
[22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
[23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
[24] For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:
[25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
[26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
[27] Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Truthnightmare
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Also…
John 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father
I believe this… does this now mean I am putting myself on a level greater than Christ.
Hitler had 6 million Jews killed during World War II, so it was decided the Jews would be safer in Palestine, a land God gave the Jews as an everlasting possession (Genesis 17:8). Ever since World War II, Palestinians have been trying to drive the Jews out, the latest example being the murder of 1300 innocent Jews a short while ago. And when the Jews try to protect themselves from further attacks, it's called "occupation."
Now you're contradicting what Jesus said (Matthew 7:1). You know I'm not going to buy that.
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