Alright so this is what I came up with
10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
So, Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.
Many people use this scripture to justify that God hated everything about Esau - perhaps even his soul, however
God is a Jealous God,
It would seem that even Jesus said we are to hate our mother and brothers.
You following along - Jesus was taught this by his Father above.
What Jesus is saying - is that yes, we are to love our fellow family members, strangers, friends, widows, orphans. HOWEVER - you do not take what they say over what the Lord says, though they can suggest advice, and everything of that nature no one is to put them over God first.
Okay, you still there - so if you are to follow Jesus you are to put the Lord your God first -> in loving God first.
Second is loving your neighbor as yourself.
If this is written that God loved Jacob and hated Esau, was it not because of Esau rejecting the ways of God? And that was why he 'hated him' because of the gumption of his ways?
Esau ended up coming around to helping jacob,
So why did God love Jacob, and Hate Esau? Was it a hatred of his character ? Or a hatred of his soul? Did Esau become faithless, and God was jealous of him desiring him to come back yet his hardened heart became callous which he went and worshiped other gods, and that was why God laid his land to waste?
Just curious to anyone who may have any insights,
Thank you,
Matthew
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Purpose
6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
So, Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.
Many people use this scripture to justify that God hated everything about Esau - perhaps even his soul, however
God is a Jealous God,
He is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions or your sins. If you forsake the Lord and serve foreign gods, then he will turn and do you harm and consume you, after having done you good” (Josh. 24:19-20).
It would seem that even Jesus said we are to hate our mother and brothers.
Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.
You following along - Jesus was taught this by his Father above.
What Jesus is saying - is that yes, we are to love our fellow family members, strangers, friends, widows, orphans. HOWEVER - you do not take what they say over what the Lord says, though they can suggest advice, and everything of that nature no one is to put them over God first.
Okay, you still there - so if you are to follow Jesus you are to put the Lord your God first -> in loving God first.
Second is loving your neighbor as yourself.
If this is written that God loved Jacob and hated Esau, was it not because of Esau rejecting the ways of God? And that was why he 'hated him' because of the gumption of his ways?
Esau ended up coming around to helping jacob,
4 But Esau ran to meet him and embraced him and fell on his neck and kissed him, and they wept. 5 And when Esau lifted up his eyes and saw the women and children, he said, “Who are these with you?” Jacob said, “The children whom God has graciously given your servant.” 6 Then the servants drew near, they and their children, and bowed down. 7 Leah likewise and her children drew near and bowed down. And last Joseph and Rachel drew near, and they bowed down. 8 Esau said, “What do you mean by all this company[a] that I met?” Jacob answered, “To find favor in the sight of my lord.” 9 But Esau said, “I have enough, my brother; keep what you have for yourself.” 10 Jacob said, “No, please, if I have found favor in your sight, then accept my present from my hand. For I have seen your face, which is like seeing the face of God, and you have accepted me. 11 Please accept my blessing that is brought to you, because God has dealt graciously with me, and because I have enough.” Thus he urged him, and he took it.
So why did God love Jacob, and Hate Esau? Was it a hatred of his character ? Or a hatred of his soul? Did Esau become faithless, and God was jealous of him desiring him to come back yet his hardened heart became callous which he went and worshiped other gods, and that was why God laid his land to waste?
Malachi 1:1-3
New American Standard Bible
God’s Love for Jacob
1 The pronouncement of the word of the Lord to Israel through [a]Malachi:
2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord. But you say, “How have You loved us?” “Was Esau not Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob; 3 but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation and given his inheritance to the jackals of the wilderness.”
Just curious to anyone who may have any insights,
Thank you,
Matthew